Only because they know they won't get the crap kicked out of them.
by Long-Adeptness1 year ago
Precisely
by VeterinarianTrue53591 year ago
People who need the threat of eternal punishment to be good people aren't good people
by Anonymous1 year ago
With some religions you don't even have to do something bad. If you don't believe in their version then too it's eternal punishment.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Depends on the religion. Not all religions or variants of religions believe in eternal punishment
by Anonymous1 year ago
Thats not the point of a God in the religions youre thinking of
by Anonymous1 year ago
Right, how could you possibly know sexually assaulting a kid was wrong unless jesus told you first?
by Anonymous1 year ago
To be fair, the christian church does struggle with that
by Excellent_Menu1 year ago
No they don't. The abused child is always at fault.
by temard1 year ago
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by Anonymous1 year ago
You can roll your eyes all you want. MORALITY is what pushed me into God. There's no other way to justify it.
by Anonymous1 year ago
I disagree obviously lol. In good faith, I swear 🤞, should there be any type of law if there is no creator law maker, and if so why?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Do you mean civil law? That's made by humans and it's not an objective morality but some sort of agreement we make based on the morality of most.
by Anonymous1 year ago
How does this even make sense lol
by nakiaschinner1 year ago
It still is with a creator, because people who claim to know what the creator thinks are just making it up
by Anonymous1 year ago
What does god have to do with morals?? Alot of religious zealots have no morals at all
by Defiant_Ganache1 year ago
Claiming a religion does not automatically mean you are morally within the said teachings.
by Anonymous1 year ago
The bible has no problem with slavery, do you think slavery is moral?
by Live_Signature5071 year ago
How do you explain morality without a God who instilled the moral laws within us?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Easy. Just be a decent human to yourself and others.
by Defiant_Ganache1 year ago
Why should I be a decent person?
by Fadeldorthy1 year ago
I would assume you would like to be treated decently yourself. That's all.
by Excellent_Menu1 year ago
Is the sake of being a good person not enough for you?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Ummm… Forming your own opinion? I respect having a god for that, but saying that is the only option is genuinely ridiculous.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Yes but individuals don't decide on morality. Societies do. Most ppl don't want to get killed so as a collective we will make rules that prohibit murder. Most ppl don't want to get stolen from so as a collective we outlaw thievery
by Worldly_Can_61801 year ago
But why is there a concensus?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Where does empathy come from?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Empathy comes from humanity. Empathy comes from wanting to treat other life like you would want to be treated yourself. Again, a belief in god is not necessary in this process. You talk about social media being brainwashing and yea. You talk about people being afraid to say things to not offend others and I agree so I'm saying that religion is brainwashing and the idea that you need to believe in god to have morals is disgusting
by abshiredelaney1 year ago
Morality is how I became to believe in God. There is no other explanation.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Why isn't it moral to cull the weak than? Pretty logical.
by Anonymous1 year ago
The exception doesn't make the rule bud. We have built-in morality instilled from our creator. Nothing is wrong without the rule of god.
by Anonymous1 year ago
We're born sinners. Try your best to listen to your inner godly voice ❤️ I promise I'll do my best in return!
by Anonymous1 year ago
Funny thing, I'm gay.
by Anonymous1 year ago
I guess I did ask you to read paragraph or 2 😆😔 sorry
by Anonymous1 year ago
Look, I'm not gonna ask you to read a paragraph or 2. But when you accept that Jesus was "The King of Kings," you will understand the his teachings are the closest you can come to your own Godly image. You'll fall short of that voice that pushes you, but know that Jesus and I love you! Keep trying!
by Anonymous1 year ago
evolutionary survival instinct. humans are pack animals. we depend on eahother to survive. if you start hurting people in your group, you get ostracized, you die. people who dislike hurting people and like helping people survive.
by Anonymous1 year ago
It's called reason.
by Virtual_Night1 year ago
Ok, how do you know what is right and wrong? (I'm asking in 100% good faith).
by Anonymous1 year ago
because hes a human being who can tell right from wrong if you need a god for that your just a child.
by amy231 year ago
It's especially funny when those who claim no God try to "hold" moral high ground! The fact that you need a God to tell you what your morals should/should not be is genuinely disturbing.
by Suitable_Name9811 year ago
Who is telling you what is right and wrong?
by Anonymous1 year ago
My own sense of empathy. I have an understanding of what it feels like to be wronged, and I have no desire to make others feel that way. Good people genuinely have no desire to harm others. With or without a God telling them. Simply behaving like a good person because God instructed you not to harm others does not make someone a good person. Good people don't need to fear God's wrath and eternal damnation to behave.
by Suitable_Name9811 year ago
Where does this "sense of empathy" come from? Why is it "wrong" to make others feel this sense of injustice? If it's your own sense of self gratitude you're after, harming others shouldn't be an issue.
by Anonymous1 year ago
It's cognitive you are born with it or course there are exceptions but they are usually psychopaths
by rbosco1 year ago
Did you really just call Jewish people "the bad guys"? 🤣
by Suitable_Name9811 year ago
On social media? Of course
by Anonymous1 year ago
Yes, actually. There's no universal law saying that murder is bad, but most societies institute such laws to maintain social order and based on the fact that we humans fear death as part of being living creatures. Morality isn't objective, it's social. But since you're one of those guys, I assume that sort of nuance is into one ear and out the other with you.
by Top-Teacher1 year ago
Yes bc we don't know the exact science yet behind the formation of a consciousness through interacting portion of cells in the form of the brain, the ONLY possible answer must be God. /s
by Worldly_Can_61801 year ago
We're a social species. We survived and thrived because we learned how to work cohesively. You get more out of people through kindness, empathy, and compassion. People who were unkind and harmful would be pushed out of the group, and less likely to survive to reproduce. After millions of years of this, we have generally become really good at knowing what is nice and what is mean. What is kind and what is unkind. What is right to do to other people and what is wrong. That's right, evolution impacts the social development of a species just like the physical. It's all behavioral. Why is it so hard for you religious zealots to understand that you shouldn't harm others unless your imaginary friend and book said not to do it?
by Genoveva671 year ago
Evolution says it's "survival of the fittest." The fittest find the line between shorterm gratification and survival. They're quickly weeded out in today's terms of "psychopath." Morality of God reings supreme in the realm of respect.
by Anonymous1 year ago
That's not the case lmao. Evolution just cares about getting organisms to survive to reproduction, and sometimes raise their young. Behavior is 100% determined by evolution of animals. I study zookeeping technology and marine biology. We go over this quite a bit especially in my animal training and behavior classes. Highly social animals have to learn to get along or else they are cast out and often die. Evolution favors social intelligence in these species - including humans. Social intelligence includes knowing how to not be a d*ck unless you need to.
by Genoveva671 year ago
Lmao where does evolution account for consciousness?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Ricky Gervais on being an atheist ; "I'm free to murder as many people as I want to; zero"
by Anonymous1 year ago
ME!!!!
by Anonymous1 year ago
Oh you do "the right thing" at all times?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Not at all!
by Anonymous1 year ago
So it isn't you than.
by Anonymous1 year ago
The greater good of the group.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Who decides what's good?
by Anonymous1 year ago
No one, it's what's in the best interest of the greater good of the group. Evolution.
by Anonymous1 year ago
What's the moral high ground under god? Do you need a vengeful deity to be honourable and decent?
by Anonymous1 year ago
You don't NEED said deity, but there's no such concept of morality without a moral lawmaker.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Who told you this
by Desperate_Ad1 year ago
The "brainwashing" he claims social media is doing is actually being done to him
by Top-Teacher1 year ago
Ask more questions of the people around you. I promise they'll give you the same opinions if you're willing to listen.
by Anonymous1 year ago
"your conclusion is based on the way you use social media, it's not universal" "haha gotcha, i DONT use social media. way to assume, idiot" "oh so you were speculating, it's not from experience" "haha gotcha, i DID use social media before. assuming again, idiot" this is not the intellectual flex you think it is my guy.
by Anonymous1 year ago
You might wanna touch some grass buddy. You're getting way too angry. The internet isn't worth it.
by Eterry1 year ago
theres a difference between being annoyed and being angry, and dude was just annoying.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Hundreds of people dying in an explosion is never funny. Except if it's a meme, then it's hilarious.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Most people here don't want to say anything offensive because they aren't thinking something offensive. If the do, they don't say it because they actually care about being offensive. Except maybe to assholes that deserve it. And it's ridiculously easy to hold moral high ground over religious people.
by Anonymous1 year ago
I really like the religious people who think if their kid sees a mom breastfeeding it will corrupt their children.... who breastfed as children. Those are some weak morals those kids must have.
by Various-Knowledge1 year ago
I've never heard of this hypothetical you've created.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Why did you have to bring in your imaginary God friend into the conversation?
by Anonymous1 year ago
Explain Morality without God 💁
by Anonymous1 year ago
Explain morality WITH God? I don't see how morality is different with God versus without God.
by Anonymous1 year ago
I hit someone. They fall down and start crying in pain. It makes me feel bad so I don't do it anymore and help them up.
by Ok_Phase1 year ago
The burden of proof is on you. You keep using this as a "gotcha" response, but it just shows everyone that you don't understand basic logic lmao. Most unpopular opinions come from people who don't understand logic and critical thinking lol.
by WeeklyBox56411 year ago
You CAN'T answer my question. Proof enough.
by Anonymous1 year ago
This is unpopular?
by Accomplished-Pen15941 year ago
No, but OP sure seems to be.
by Anonymous1 year ago
It means that you can use social media for good by using the right information to feed into peoples brains.
by Tight-Egg1 year ago
Lol this assumes people are after the truth...
by Anonymous1 year ago
I mean, I agree with your premise but your example doesn't make such sense. What does God have to do with anything? I know plenty of atheists and religious people alike who I consider to have good morals.
by LetterheadMedium85491 year ago
Say what you want to say! Just remember…freedom of speech is NOT freedom from consequences.
by Educational-Web1 year ago
Same to you.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Ok…I already do that but thanks for the advice I just gave you.
by Educational-Web1 year ago
World's most lukewarm take lmao, this is about as hot as tepid tap water
by Anonymous1 year ago
If your implication is that those who worship a god have a higher moral position, you're just wrong. If you need the looming threat of eternal damnation to act like a civilised person, you're a toddler looking for direction from sky daddy. If you try to do good just because you care for the planet, the fellow man, or whatever, you are automatically more righteous than someone who only doesn't act out because father cloud won't let you into his private club.
by Excellent_Menu1 year ago
the irony of a religious nutjob lecturing us about brainwashing (not all religious are nutjobs ofc but this guy is)
by amy231 year ago
The irony of you passing the judgment, that's God given, to assume you know my story.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Ok boomer
by Anonymous1 year ago
I was born in 1990.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Self-censorship is part of the human social experience. Ever had a boss who was an asshole but didn't say that to his face? that's self-censorship. Nobody is telling that you can't see anything, but as with your boss you've got to be able to comprehend that actions have consequences.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Self censorship is what you do to get by in the world. It has nothing to do with social media. It has everything to do with being a social animal. In real life if you do not self censor you are likely to get physically harmed. On social media the penalties are much less damaging.
by nhirthe1 year ago
This isn't unpopular
by Anonymous1 year ago
I AGREE bro you should log off rn
by joannie851 year ago
People tend to say nastier things online because they're hiding behind a screen. You also get bombarded when you have a different opinion.
by OkRough12551 year ago
That's not brainwashing, and self censorship exists in the real world too, especially if you're visible in the public eye. Plenty of media personalities have lost their jobs because of something they said. Not sure what that last sentence means, doesn't make any sense, unless you're trying to inject some kind of objective morality argument when it has nothing to do with what you said.
by Spiritual-Rice1 year ago
God isn't real and knowing that does make me more moral than you. Good of you to bring this up
by Anonymous1 year ago
Religion is just brainwashing.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Op probably just faced the consequences of his actions for the first time and is shocked lol. U can say as much offensive stuff as u want but expect people to be offended yea, that's usually the nature of it all.
by tremaine091 year ago
Uggghh I wish I learned that quick. 😔
by Anonymous1 year ago
This is not unpopular AT ALL
by Schillerderrick1 year ago
You lost me at the god part…
by Anonymous1 year ago
You might learn yet. Everything doesn't come from nothing.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Yes, I'm Christian! 👍
by Anonymous1 year ago
What makes you a "living creature" and why do you "fear death?"
by Anonymous1 year ago
Username checks out.
by Anonymous1 year ago
Ad hominem
by Anonymous1 year ago
Duh
by Medical-Branch1 year ago
Yupp sounds right. Jesus is king.
by Anonymous1 year ago
I've spent the last minute proposing single unanswered questions 😆
by Anonymous1 year ago
The irony
by Careless_Forever_7151 year ago
My fear with social media is actually the algorithms creating behaviours in us that only benefit the companies. Where profit is concerned morals inadvertently make it out the door
by Anonymous1 year ago
Rain is wet.
by Okeefeparker1 year ago
You sir are correct and it can also be tuned in a way to create Manchurian candidates and/or get people to unalive themselves through hypnosis.
by Wymanbernita1 year ago
It's by design. It's to prevent you from thinking critically and just make you follow the herd
by Outrageous-Sun1 year ago
South Park I think called out social media the best with Gerald Broflovski's trolling arc. It wouldn't surprise me if there as a small group of apolitical trolls who are just seeing how far they can push all the insanity for their own entertainment. Alternatively social media gives voice to the mentally ill who would normally be ignored in real life, but online they can find other like minded individuals to make their insanity seem more "mainstream".
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