People who say "I don't know" are not called ignorant. It's those who don't know they don't know who are ignorant.

by emmerichlincoln 1 week ago

I'm glad you brought up the fact of it being a pejorative, because I think that's where our different positions come from. I'm speaking particularly about ignorance in its technical sense, which is something we all have cause none of us are omniscient; we're all devoid of some knowledge. My gripe I'm getting at is that being void of ignorances is becoming more and more demanded, and not meeting that demand leads to various kinds of unsavory consequences. To boil my sentiment down, you can't be whimsical about life. Society is trending towards its functioning members being increasingly more non-ignorant, as in the standards are continually being raised, but there's not much being done to give an outlet to the then "dysfunctional" members, that don't meet these standards. It's reminiscent of how the tech industry pits people simply looking for dignified work against people who are genuinely passionate for and love STEM stuff, and how the industry is giving their all to the latter group while the former group has their desperation and relative incompetence exploited. That disparity is where I see the problem, because to meet the standards that STEM-passionate people can when you're not one is a huge hurdle, and when you can't meet those very high standards you're cast aside and dismissed. Maybe "stigmatized" wasn't the right choice of word, and doesn't allude to what I'm really trying to get at.

by Camron39 1 week ago

There's a difference between ignorance and willfull ignorance. Not knowing something is ok, being wrong about something, constantly being told you're wrong, and not caring while continuing to spread your false knowledge is NOT ok. The second is willfull ignorance and it's the real problem here.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

There's a big difference, and a big line, between willful ignorance and simply not knowing something. Not knowing something is fine - refusing to know something isn't.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I don't think that's true. The "educate yourself" is usually followed by some form of "it's not my job to teach you", and usually comes after the individual has made some claim and been asked to provide information to support it. It's usually followed up with ad hominems.

by pierreoconner 1 week ago

Cool, I didn't know I made them, tell me where I was criticizing the ignorant, considering my sentiment is the exact opposite. Also what were the grammatical errors you caught?

by Camron39 1 week ago