California should ban growing almonds, amirite?

isn't this a popular opinion in most of california?

by hilpertlindsay 1 week ago

It is indeed

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Isn't this also something to do with the whole bees-are-fish thing California has going?

by bayleethiel 1 week ago

The what?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

CA Supreme Court ruled that bees are fish in order to have them fall under a endangered species act (because theyre invertebrates i guess). Though idk what OPs point is

by Amiyagleason 1 week ago

I mean it's smart. Bees are SUPER important. I say this as someone who bees could actually kill.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Is that true amongst farming communities? All the farmers I know (Santa Clara Co) are asking for more water.

by Late-Way 1 week ago

Crazy how the people who are making money off of using 20% of all the water in California want even more (so they can make more money)

by miguel54 1 week ago

Couldn't be. If it were popular then the politicians would have passed laws prohibiting it by now!

by Great-Operation 1 week ago

That's Stewart Resnick! He also owns Fiji Water.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

he also donates yearly to the idf..

by Jerry82 1 week ago

Deal with it! Sweden must have its marzipan!

by StrainNo5321 1 week ago

Alphalfa accounts for WAY more water consumption in California than almonds and feeds much, much less people (because it's cow feed) Fun (in the horrible kinda way) fact alphalfa irrigation accounts for 80% of water consumption from the Colorado river

by Good-Astronomer 1 week ago

And compared to almond milk, cow's milk uses way more water.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

And I am told that all that goes to a (rich) middle eastern country as cattle feed

by Strict_Engineering18 1 week ago

Alfalfa, ovoAutumn (my uncle grew that stinky stuff!). And did not know the 80% fact!

by Illustrious-Fan-8098 1 week ago

Ban lawns and golf courses first.

by Known_Oil_8381 1 week ago

Corporate agribusiness farms are a much greater threat to the environment and contribute to the extinction of millions of species of bugs, birds, and all other animals. The pesticides, fungicides, and insecticides used on these massive corporate-owned inorganic farms kill bees and butterflies, pollute the water supply, and cause cancer, digestive disorders, and food allergies in humans. Not to mention all the water they steal from plants, animals, and people who need water for survival. Boycott Monsanto brands and buy as much food as possible from local farmers markets.

by Aggressive_Rest_8424 1 week ago

lawns are an absolute waste. golf courses in dry areas should use artificial turf.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

A future without beef is not a future at all. I will burn the world myself if I'm unable to at least eat long pork.

by hintzalize 1 week ago

Yepppp. I'm not saying almond milk IS sustainable, but the whole "omg!!! Almonds!!!" messaging is a distraction from the much bigger problem that the animal ag lobby doesn't want people talking about: cow farming.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I lowkey suspect it's the reason we hear so much about almond water usage at all.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Not to mention methane + land use. Almond is one of the costly plant milks to produce but nowhere near as demanding to produce as cow milk.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yeah, I wasn't even gonna go into the methane, CO2, and other waste they produce. Like, if nothing else, almonds are at least photosynthetic.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Almond trees yield about 1.5 calories per gallon of water, and beef cattle yields about 0.6 calories per gallon.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It depends where your cows are, I'm my country cattle are grass fed pasture animals that live on non arrible land, The total water costs are miniscule, as the rain provides their water and food, and all their waste Goes back into the land to fertilise it.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It takes over 6000 litres of water to make a litre of almond milk and just under 300 to make a litre of milk. Carbon emissions per litre are almond milk 0.35 kg, cows milk 1.67 kg. Which isn't that much of a difference. Dairy farming isn't the huge evil that some make it out to be.

by Commercial-Hope7986 1 week ago

Where are these numbers even coming from?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This reminds me of the """study""" on crop deaths where the "researchers" tracked the number of small animals IN crop fields before and after harvesting. Incredibly, they didn't track the number of small animals that greatly increased in areas adjacent to the crop fields. Somehow eluded them that animals will move out of the way of loud approaching machinery…

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yea…. This article just quotes some random guy from a "sustainable restaurant organization" to come up with these numbers. I'd feel more comfortable using this data sourced from a peer reviewed study. While focused on fresh water (not grey), dairy uses almost double the fresh water of almonds. This encompasses the entire production chain.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

1.67/0.35=477%

by Anonymous 1 week ago

6101/291= 2,096%. 🤣

by Commercial-Hope7986 1 week ago

Source?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

6000/300 = 2000%

by rosenbaumgladyc 1 week ago

🤔. . .

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You have to compare a bigger picture. Cow's milk provide more protein. The cow itself will provide more protein when it's milking cycles are over and it is slaughtered for hamburger. Dairy in non-irrigated areas that rely on rain doesn't have the same environmental impact as dairying in places where feed and water has to be imported.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

almond juice. can't have milk unless it's from a mammal

by Straight_Tax 1 week ago

I'm sorry, Amelia Bedelia.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Milk is a verb. Milk as much information from this as you wish.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I like almonds. Almond farmers, not so much.

by rosenbaumgladyc 1 week ago

Why don't you like the farmers?

by Solid_Leadership 1 week ago

They aren't farmers. Tha corporations growing almonds in California are scum.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I like almonds. The corporations running the farms, not so much

by Solid_Leadership 1 week ago

Ya I get my almonds and walnuts at farmers markets only. Actually I get most of my food there. I avoid processed food and avoid buying as much food as I can from grocery stores cause the only natural foods grocery store near me is Whole Foods and they sell a lot of evil brands. Agribusiness is so evil in every way and I boycott all of it. No dollar of mine will ever go to Bayer-Monsanto. Their almond farms are evil I wish we could pass a law in California limiting the size of farms and banning the use of glyphosate and other pesticides, fungicides, and insecticides so that small family-owned farms could replace all agribusiness farms.

by Aggressive_Rest_8424 1 week ago

Ya, almonds are good, and pretty good for women. Cashews are better for men. That said, the corporate takeover of farming sucks.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Do you know how much almond powder is used by people on various diets or celiac disease? Oh I'm sure they are wealthy too

by Ipowlowski 1 week ago

I'm from the very small area of central California where all those almonds are grown, and the almond farmers are not super wealthy. I know many.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

These morons confuse assets with cash. Farmers are millionaires because the value of their land and equipment is in the millions. But farmers are poor once you look in their wallets

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yeah the other thing that this person probably doesn't realize is the way that water allocation works in California. It's a bitch for those farmers. We also have a massive delta right next to all those almonds. LA is the area wasting all the water. All of our reservoirs are overflowing usually after the snow melts. We did have a five year drought that sucked but the past few years have been good.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I just saw a documentary on this very thing not long ago. I wish I could remember what I watched it on

by PowerfulShape 1 week ago

Wendover maybe?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

They're called amonds once the L is shook out of em.

by Weimannashlee 1 week ago

I don't know dude. I have an almond tree in my backyard that isn't hooked up to irrigation. It thrives on rain water and run off from the grass. In phoenix, Az.

by Lower_Masterpiece_92 1 week ago

Lets hear some.

by Mindless-Start4075 1 week ago

We should ban California.

by FrontSuggestion9876 1 week ago

Be angry at monoculture, not almonds & cows.

by Douglasrhea 1 week ago

I like Almond Chicken at the Chinese Restaurant.

by Flat_Translator_8467 1 week ago

Southern CA is a desert that steals water so nobody from SoCal should say a word about water.

by Katarinahomenic 1 week ago

California should just secede. Or fall off the map.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Born and raised in CA... most of us have left and are in Texas. I left 12 years ago.

by Katarinahomenic 1 week ago

Hopefully you didn't bring the politics with you. Most of Texas outside the big cities is a great place.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

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by OkCourt7267 1 week ago

You mean nobody else wants to be exploited

by petranikolaus 1 week ago

*Are being exploited in a way only unprotected workers can

by Reasonable_Injury 1 week ago

complaining about almonds and not the people growing alfalfa is so funny to me

by Inside-War-7807 1 week ago

How about we grow almonds on the east coast where there's a lot of rain thanks to storms called Nor'Easters . But almonds will still be a delicacy.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I am fine with them being grown. However, almond growing water use should be compared to water use for ordinary produce and the growers should charged a premium on the extra water they use.

by Junior_Mission6374 1 week ago

Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't. Almond joy's got nuts, mounds don't.

by steubereddie 1 week ago

Thanks Captain Obvious!

by Madge68 1 week ago

Whoosh!

by steubereddie 1 week ago

Ugh but what about my almond croissants :((((

by InterestingPie 1 week ago

Almond growers have been there for decades. It's the pistachio growers who have exploded. Pistachios used to be a real treat. You could only find a small packet for sale. Now they're everywhere. A lot of fields that used to grow vegetables, especially in SoCal, have been converted to pistachios.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Wonderful pistachios lobbyd the government to increase import taxes on pistachios so they could sell their own as a cheaper monopoly. They take 1 gallon per nut to grow. The reason they chose California? The family that owns the company owns alot of water rights so it dosent matter to them.

by IndividualSquare1762 1 week ago

Yeah, F almonds but steaks are delicious....

by BeneficialHistory 1 week ago

Must do beef first.

by chandler04 1 week ago

Pistachios are even worse. Low yields and use lots of water. Tree doesn't produce fruit every year.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

"beer farmers" just about sums it up.

by PinPitiful 1 week ago

I buy almond milk regularly: what is the best environment positive type of plant milk to buy that is not almond? (taste doesn't matter when it comes to plant milk for me)

by Latter-Fix 1 week ago

Reminded me of the 3rd season of Goliath, so true

by Money_Ad 1 week ago

Almond prices would skyrocket, I'm not saying we should grow them I'm just saying that almonds would be hella expensive since we are like 80% of the world supply

by Anonymous 1 week ago

California has way bigger problems than almonds lol

by Virginie54 1 week ago

And almonds suck

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Correct, but it will never happen. The main reason is 30 years ago, they over-planted the trees, and now it is the only nut actually affordable. Plus, everyone is addicted to almond products. The damn things are in everything now (affordability).

by Anonymous 1 week ago

But all those people won't be able to have their almond milk!

by Adventurous_Ant 1 week ago

I've given up regular milk for Almond Milk. I love Almond Milk.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You forgot alfalfa…

by Weekly-Flight-6218 1 week ago

for the Saudis

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yeah, the elephant in the room here

by Good-Astronomer 1 week ago

I need almonds for my milk because of my allergies and intolerances. Sorry you don't like almonds.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

They should. Almond milk sucks.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Crazy youd bitch about farmers before golf courses. Are people from California really that brainwashed? Heres an idea, dont move to a desert and then bitch about how there isnt much water.

by Dubuquecaleigh 1 week ago

Here's an idea don't live in the desert.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Surprised they haven't already banned it i cant lie

by blandajohn 1 week ago

also Alfalfa, in fact ban farming most things in California

by margie20 1 week ago

Glad I'm allergic and not contributing to the problem

by Glad_Skin 1 week ago

Almonds are more trouble than they're worth tbh.

by feeneyalize 1 week ago

Many almost farmers are multi millionaires or even billionaires. The crop uses nearly as much water as all residential water combined but at a fraction of the price and then they ship the product overseas. 1%er welfare.

by Ledagutkowski 1 week ago

You know this is the internet and you can just swear like a normal person right

by Living-Honey 1 week ago

What the "HE🏒🏒" does that mean lmao

by Reasonable_Injury 1 week ago

It means using emojis instead of letters or typing fuqq makes you look like an obnoxious attention seeker or maybe someone who's too young to drive. Be better.

by Living-Honey 1 week ago

👍🏼

by Reasonable_Injury 1 week ago

I've been boycotting almonds and cashews for years. When you visualize an almond next to a gallon of water, which is how much water it takes to grow an almond, it just doesn't make sense to use it as food.

by Anonymous 1 week ago