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Being anti-establishment is not automatically good, amirite?
by Anonymous1 week ago
"Government bad medias bad. The exact complete opposite of every single thing the medias say must be the truth." - Enlightened conspiracy theorist Anon
by Fun_Department_3721 week ago
That's a pretty anti-establishment take on The Anti-Establishment. It's like Meta-Anti-Establishment
by Anonymous1 week ago
Antidisestablishmentarianists are crazy and I love them.
by Anonymous1 week ago
No, it's just an establishment take
by Macihartmann1 week ago
Anti-establishment with no other strong beliefs attached leads to brainrot
by Beautiful_File2971 week ago
afaik, being anti-establishment doesn't necessarily equal having an alternative.
by Anonymous1 week ago
This is where almost every revolution failed. They got the overthrowing part...but couldn't actually make a better government.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I dont know, I didn't think I get this far
by Then-Opening-62541 week ago
Historically, revolutions solely committed by the people always failed. The ones that succeeded were the ones that were allowed by the people in power when they didn't like their leaders and wanted them replaced. They were allowed to happen. It's why you hear about so many coups where the revolutionary leader becomes an even worse brutal dictator than the person he replaced.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Yeah revolutions only happen if the army lets it happen
by Cold_Mud3081 week ago
Not always, but for the overwhelming majority of majorities they have.
by Anonymous1 week ago
This literally had absolutely nothing to do with why revolutions failed, even though not all of them did? What?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Politics like that revolve around quippy and convenient answers for things. Things like the October Revolution didn't fail because "they couldn't make something better".
by Anonymous1 week ago
I mean, thats extremely reductive lol
by Anonymous1 week ago
This is why anarchists never succeed in life.
by Olenwalker1 week ago
Lol, what are you talking about? Success is relative anyway.
by Macihartmann1 week ago
And why antichrists always die.
by Different_Resist1 week ago
I have a feeling you definitely do not know anything about anarchism
by Anonymous1 week ago
This you?
by DearVast99771 week ago
Are you... actually using South Park to try and make a point? I'm not even a hippie 💀
by Anonymous1 week ago
You may not be a hippie but anarchists definitely have views that are equally stupid. Well, stupid is probably the wrong word. Naïve might be more fitting.
by DearVast99771 week ago
The current establishment will always try to perpetuate its own existence. It takes effort to keep it running, but it takes even more effort to change it. Every system is flawed, and we need to strive to always improve it. So, I would say being anti-establishment is always good. When it comes to alternatives to the current establishment, you are correct that they are not all automatically good. That is an obvious conclusion. Trying to change the status quo is always good, but you need to also propose a better plan.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Hot take: when the anti-establishment views later become the establishment, is it better to be anti-establishment? 🤔
by Anonymous1 week ago
That made me think of when Ozzy Osbourne's crazy train was used in a commercial to sell a six figure SUV.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Thank you for the brave and unpopular opinion that terrorism bad.
by wilfredo961 week ago
😂
by Different_Resist1 week ago
I mean - the establishment is a largely evolving and iterative process. Whatever we have is "good" didn't happen overnight. "Not perfect" is better than nothing, which is what most "anti-establishment" have as an alternative approach.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I think he's trying to say just because you are currently anti establishment, doesn't mean that your system will be any better. If you even have a solution. Most people just complain.
by Corkeryjaron1 week ago
You don't need to be a professional pizza maker to know when a pizza was left in the oven for an extra four hours and dunked in the mop bucket before they served it to you. You can acknowledge the failures of a government and want a different one without knowing exactly what the solution is.
by Electronic_Manager631 week ago
Except it's not the employee's choice, or even the manager's. It's the shareholders that bought out the pizzeria. They make the decisions. Until it's taken back and returned to its original purpose of serving the customer, there's no point.
by Electronic_Manager631 week ago
Then everyone eats at No Mop Water Pizzeria
by Anonymous1 week ago
this analogy doesn't work lmfao if i saw that pizza i would have the solution
by ShelterGreen67091 week ago
Hot take: ISIS, pretty bad fellas
by Anonymous1 week ago
nobody thinks being anti-establishment is inherently good for the exact reason you gave having a positive reaction to the term "anti-establishment" is okay because of the context in which it is typically used
by ShelterGreen67091 week ago
Green Day only accidentally got lucky with American Idiot.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I think getting elected president and controlling all three branches of government is a pretty reasonable standard for being considered "the establishment."
by Anonymous1 week ago
Supreme Court was 5/4 after Trump and I'm pretty certain congress never became republicano majority. He had the senate that's it
by Anonymous1 week ago
Not to mention that establishment Republican does not equal MAGA.
by ZookeepergameSad1 week ago
So youre an antidisestablishmentarianist.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Buzzwords.
by Anonymous1 week ago
… Huh? What specifically?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Not everyone wants to replace it with themselves, I just want politicians to not be making millions while in office from corporations
by Difficult-Acadia1 week ago
Today it does, name one single instituion with a shred of integrity. I'll wait.
by Anonymous1 week ago
It depends on the establishment.
by Anonymous1 week ago
You're pretty antidisestablishmentarianist it seems
by More-Tie-12271 week ago
I think the only thing that can automatically be good about being antiestablishment is that an alternative is presented. So, good luck with that
by Fresh-Helicopter1 week ago
That's why you're supposed to question authority, not blindly oppose it.
by Anonymous1 week ago
This is the polar opposite of an unpopular opinion
by Macihartmann1 week ago
I'd be terrible leader. I'd like benevolent AI overlord tho...
by gratke1 week ago
Thats why "anti-establishment" is dumb and meaningless, literally every non-"establishment" is anti-establishment. Someone who has the exact same beliefs but wants to be in charge would be "anti-establishment".
by Anonymous1 week ago
The same could be said for the other side - being establishment positive is not always inherently evil.
by Different_Resist1 week ago
I've had this aurgument a lot in punk circles. A lot of people think punk is just anti whatever the mainstream astonishment is. But I don't believe that. I think punk is inherently left wing in nature and about fighting for whats right. We only rail against the mainstream because the main stream happens to be wrong. But if they goverment was left wing it wouldn't suddenly be punk to be conservative. If 99% of the population becomes trans allies it isn't suddenly punk to be a transphobe bigot. Defining it as just "against whatever the mainstream believes" is a profoundly stupid way of doing it. Punk is about a specific set of values and political beliefs regaurdless of what the mainstream believes. Its only so opposed to the establishment because the establishment in this timeline happens to suck and be wrong about almost everything. But that's not an inherent quality of the establishment, its more of a coincidence than anything.
by rberge1 week ago
Did someone claim that it was?
by Anonymous1 week ago
It's almost always bad actually. There's a reason things become establishment in the first place.
by Sea-Bid-14471 week ago
Nor does it make you smart to automatically distrust the institutions that we rely on.
by Gold_Damage_81631 week ago
Automatically? They've been earning it every year for the past few hundred
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