+33 Everyone should talk about their Salaries especially coworkers, amirite?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

It's illegal for your work tell you that you can't talk about it.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I used to remind my bosses of that all the time when I worked at ruby tuesdays

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Some companies who valued fairness used to encourage such conversation, it to the point of publishing all their employees salaries. Too bad I don't see many companies today doing that.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

But they do it anyway... What are we gonna do sue them individually agianst a bunch of lawyers or form a union and go on strike.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Awesome win!

by Anonymous 1 year ago

You don't happen to remember that law number or where I can find it do you? I have a similar meeting Monday.

by hannah13 1 year ago

Report them to the Labour board

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Labor and industry. Fight back. The law is there for a reason. It's on you if you don't demand you are treated in a legal manner.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Yes exactly this. Sue them. This is an incredibly easy win if the they fire you directly for talking g about wages or going against them saying your not allowed to talk about wages.

by jason09 1 year ago

They can tell you anything they want, enforcing is a different story

by Minimum-Drawer 1 year ago

Unenforced rules aren't rules

by Ok_Language_9086 1 year ago

It's up to you to bring it to the labor board to be enforced.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

My work threatened to write people up that do.

by Silver_Win 1 year ago

Get them to give it to you in writing or let them fire you for it and take it to labor and industries.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

It's legal for them to PIP you after you talk about it…

by Past_Leek 1 year ago

Its technically fine for them to say its against the rules, but they can't retaliate for it.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Well at home depot it's against company policy to discuss pay with coworkers, HR confirmed it and my supervisor told me first I'm not allowed to talk about pay but didn't tell me it was against policy until I asked.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Home Depot sets federal laws now?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

You tell me, all I know is that when I called and asked HR about it, they said it's against company policy to talk about your pay with coworkers. And I was also told I could get written up for it. I don't care enough to look into all of it.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I know, sorry if I made it sound like that. I was just trying to talk about how a company (HD in this case) will lie to you. I know policies aren't laws, just wanted to share how scummy home depot is.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Yeah the problem is he is taking out his frustration on you and not on mangament

by AnyCheek 1 year ago

And that's what talking about pay among co-workers does. Especially if some people are lying about how much they make.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Good insights!

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Idk why people lie about it. I've never been in a position like yours, but I have been the underling and like why lie? If anything we'd all be on the same team if our wages are to low. We're all working a low level position don't lie just to feel like you're more important. Work for it if you wanted to be in a leadership position.

by Both_Telephone 1 year ago

I had always prided myself on being open about salary and found myself lying once. Me and two of the other managers were discussing salary. One manager has always been a totally inept slacker. I used to be pissed because he'd get bonuses for wooing customers, even though I would constantly have to follow up behind him cleaning up his messes. When he said his salary and I found out it was a good 20K less than mine I realized that while he'd been getting the bonuses, I had been getting the big raises. It was wrong of me but I didn't want to give him any ammunition to demand a bigger salary so lied and said we were making about the same.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Op is implying that he oversees the other guy.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Learning about my coworkers' salaries has gotten me massive raises twice in my career. I wasn't a douchecanoe about it. I learned what my coworker's salary was. I said, "thank you for sharing that with me," and shared mine. I went to management, pointing to very clear ways my performance warranted a higher salary and asked for more money. They gave me a raise. Some people are idiots. Some people are exploited by corporations.

by Rmcglynn 1 year ago

You act like people will react reasonably and rationally to hear that they're not paid as much as other people, usually for good reason.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

As someone who works in HR, THIS. I'm definitely not against salary transparency, but that also requires individuals to be honest with themselves regarding their roles and performance. Recognizing that some employees were able to negotiate an increased salary, and yes, there are legacy employees who make more because they were with the company since near the beginning. As someone who knows exactly how much everyone makes in the company, I myself have to regulate salary envy.

by hilperttad 1 year ago

Here's the thing, people LIE about their salary to coworkers. Some dummy tried to sue our company saying women got paid less than men. It was based on what 3 people told her they made. 2 of them lied. And when we ran the data, women actually got paid MORE than men by like $0.14 per hour or something like that. That was the quickest deposition ever.

by Bhermiston 1 year ago

As a management consultant who sees how complex organizations react to all kinds of challenges, I bet salary transparency results in fewer raises, because management now says "but Dave, if I give you a raise I'll have to give in to Bob too".

by furmanbeatty 1 year ago

Then the organization is poorly managed. It sounds like this manager does not have a good reason to give Dave a raise. If so, they'd feel comfortable giving Dave a raise and explaining to Bob why he didn't get a raise and how he can improve his performance.

by Rmcglynn 1 year ago

Lol kinda funny because we're I've worked HR always seems to have some of the highest salaries in the organization besides management 😜

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Where have you worked...asking for a friend? There is good money to be made in HR but it's a web of compliance, responsibility, and pressure. Kinda like with lawyers, no one likes you 😂

by hilperttad 1 year ago

When I get paid less to do more work than someone who does part of my job and has been working for 2+ years less than me, how would you handle being told that there is only so much in the budget for raises and the company cannot compensate me accordingly? Oh, I should add that I work for a worldwide medical equipment provider. They have the money to fairly pay me what I am worth. I'm also one of the hardest working people on my team, as told to me by others on it. I was never supposed to know that people getting hired on after me were making at least $2 more an hour than me doing half of what I do daily lol.

by Any-Necessary 1 year ago

If they refuse to give you a raise, then that's your answer. If you aren't being paid your worth, find a company who will. Employers will find a way to compensate their valued employees. In some instances, employees have found the comp they were looking for elsewhere. In other instances, they realized they were the problem.

by hilperttad 1 year ago

I'm trying to find a different job, but I'm not the best at it and haven't even tried in 5+ years lol. Pay rates were basically the straw that broke the camel's back for me.

by Any-Necessary 1 year ago

Your pay is not based on what you provide the company, compared to you peers, or even what it would cost to replace you. Your pay is based on what the marketplace would pay for you, and if you can not effectively move to another job then your company does not need to consider paying you more.

by Emerson24 1 year ago

Ya I make way more than my coworkers, but I also showed up with 8 years experience while everyone else had zero. I was in the position to negotiate more $ and extra vacation.

by Ondrickavince 1 year ago

Class traitor 👆

by New_Meal 1 year ago

you can't sit down and go over why another person makes more Sure you can't talk about the other employee, but you can totally talk to that employee about why they make what they do. A well-managed organization will have some system around their titles, levels, and pay ranges, and those can be explained to employees. If you can't explain to an employee why their salary is what it is, your organization is poorly managed.

by Rmcglynn 1 year ago

Part of the issue is that we are worth what we negotiate. Back when I was in management some of our best employees went underpaid simply because they didn't ask for more money. Meanwhile we had some that were just so so who had no problem demanding a raise and often getting them simply because it would take so long to train a replacement. I learned it myself as I received three sizeable raises due to me making a fuss which lead to me making a lot more than some of my coworkers who had been at the company a similar amount of time.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

how much do you make?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I'm currently taking a Master's Degree. However, when I was tossing up between that and going into the workforce after my bachelors I was offered a position for: $63,000.00 3% matched contribution to retirement account 5% matched contribution to student loan repayments (I would have to pay 12.8% in my Country anyway) So a total renumeration in the value of $68,040 .00

by Anonymous 1 year ago

$42.26hr + about $5hr towards my pension and another $6 towards my health insurance

by Anonymous 1 year ago

My pay has always been public (Air Force) or very easy to find (Airlines). Currently at ~$180/hr, working about 80-90 hours per month, with ~16-18% automatic (not matching) company contribution to my 401(k). Should be about $200k +/- $10k gross for 2024 (not including the company contribution to my 401(k)).

by robelismael 1 year ago

i've never been at a place where you can't discuss pay and benefits. i've only worked military and DoD so i don't know what life is like on the outside. is it poor management and company culture where people get hired in exigence and make 2-3x the person who has been there for 10 years?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Huh? Did you mean to reply to someone else? Military (salary) and Airlines (hourly) are very similar, for pay transparency... Rank/Position and tenure, that's it.

by robelismael 1 year ago

yes. i'm on mobile lol. i meant to respond to someone else. appreciate your answer!

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I make $155k/year. No 401K match but our health plan is free. Level 3 Software Engineer at a company with 6 levels. I work remotely from Texas.

by Rmcglynn 1 year ago

How about you?

by Anonymous 1 year ago

about $190K+/- $15K pre tax depending on how much company travel i do. i'm salaried and this is probably the lower end since I do not have a STEM degree. i work for department of defense. everyone in government knows everyone else's salary since it's listed with our paygrade or how much we pay our contractors

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Damm! Nice gig. Can I ask how long you have been working in that industry for? (Assuming this isn't an entry level position haha)

by Anonymous 1 year ago

$2,600 ish a month

by New_Meal 1 year ago

I was all for salary transparency at first before getting a job. Then, I learned that humans are apes (including myself) and kinda appreciate the taboo. On the fence now..

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I'm all about discussing salaries and I was very open about how much I make at work with anyone who asked. My position was unique and pay was pretty standard across the company for those in a similar roll. So no issues. I had a good friend who told someone on his team he made a few thousand more than him despite being there a few months less. He went nuclear. He started blowing up his manager that very moment after work hours at like 9pm about how it wasn't fair and typing up emails to HR. Eventually said some stuff that crossed a line and got himself fired. Some people cannot handle that conversation maturely.

by No-Wallaby 1 year ago

I don't have much of a problem with this. Management will just need to have concrete reasons why someone is paid more or less in case a lower paid employee complains about not being paid as much as a coworker with the same title

by Anonymous 1 year ago

There was a study a while ago were scientists were asked to evaluate a set of CVs and what they should get paid. The only differences was the name being male or female. What they found was that females based only on their names were underpaid compared to the male CVs. The interesting part was that this trend also held true when female scientists were asked to evaluate the CVs. What this suggests is that there are unconscious bias that contribute to any hiring process causing unfair renumeration conditions. Talking about salaries is the first step in breaking down those boundaries.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Do you have a link to this study? That doesn't sound like a particularly rigorous experiment but I understand you're just paraphrasing.

by Flimsy_Safety_1437 1 year ago

This isn't unpopular. The only one who truly believes this is the boss.

by AwayAnalysis 1 year ago

Nope. As a higher paid employee I gain nothing from sharing my pay to my coworkers. People are often not reasonable and will assume they should be paid the same or more due to job title or seniority. Pay raises from a corporation are typically limited to X dollars per section. Not everyone gets an equal piece.

by Emerson24 1 year ago

Oh sorry, I meant the boss and bootlickers like yourself.

by AwayAnalysis 1 year ago

Okay, if it's not job title or seniority, why do you get paid more? Is it performance within your particular job title? Does your company have a fair way of measuring performance? If your company is well-managed and manages salaries fairly (i..e not nepotism and favoritism), then it's pretty easy to explain why one person gets paid more than another.

by Rmcglynn 1 year ago

Performance. Engineering, relatively small organization with not really a large stratification in job titles/duties. Nearly everyone thinks they outperform their pay, especially low performers.

by Emerson24 1 year ago

Hell no. That would just lead to a ton of resentment. Unfortunately in this society most people think of financial success as the main indicator of someone's worth/value.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I think OP is saying that overtime it would correct society into more evenly paid jobs = equality. Your right though mass resentment and opposition would happen for awhile. (If not forever)

by Anonymous 1 year ago

But jobs shouldn't be paid equally. There are a lot of people who think they are much better at their job than they are

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Managers will just need concrete reasons to justify pay. If I lower paid employee gets upset about their pay then management can just point to their lower productivity or poor attendance

by Anonymous 1 year ago

If a company can't explain an employee's performance to them, they are poorly managed.

by Rmcglynn 1 year ago

This is the real reason. Companies do not want people to talk about what they make because people have different jobs and some people perform better than others. I definitely agree that most people think they deserve more than the effort they put in. While it's not illegal to talk about pay amongst yourselves, it causes a lot of problems for the company if you do. Companies will not want to keep you around if you cause problems for them. I speak as an owner of a company myself.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Oh no, companies will have to pay employees what they're worth… the horror!!

by AnyCheek 1 year ago

Yeah, that's kind of the point though. If companies don't care about what's good for their employees, why should their employees care about what's good for the company? They already have every advantage possible. And if you have a union, then they won't be able to fire you and tarnish your reputation. If companies "can't afford" to pay all employees wages that won't cause an uprising when revealed, then they can't afford to run a company. I say this as an employee and a proud member of a union, worker's rights are human rights ✊️

by Anonymous 1 year ago

My point is that we pay our employees what they are worth. The problem is that they think they are worth a lot more than what they actually are. Another thing people over look is that the problem is with inflation increasing at a rate that employers can't keep up with. This isn't our fault, so saying we shouldn't have a company is not really accurate. What people don't understand is that while employees have to deal with inflation, so do companies, and at a much bigger scale.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I think I would agree in the short term. But if everything is laid bare then come performance review, especially with the backing of a union. There is much more of a backing to get promotions and ensure pay equity.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I think it's mostly people in management and higher that don't want us to. This is pretty damn popular.

by ReasonableTaro 1 year ago

Nah it's HR. Any time pay is talked about, people find out how much Tina is making and start toxic rumors that she must be blowing the boss. There's a myriad of just reasons people are paid different, yet people tend to never focus on that.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

okay well every time i've run into an issue it's been with a manager.

by ReasonableTaro 1 year ago

I'm in management, and I really don't care if people discuss their salaries. I try to do my best to pay everyone as fairly as possible, but I do have limitations and I can't always pay someone as much as I would like. Sometimes I need to make decisions and decide who the money is best spent on. That being said, there is a difference between employees discussing salary and some asshole being completely unprofessional about it and making their coworkers uncomfortable in the workplace because of it. Having arguments about pay and who should be making more inside the office during work hours isn't acceptable, for example. Yes, I have had situations like that happen in the past…

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I mean yes, you would want that if you think you are being paid less. If you happen to have secured a higher pay than your coworkers upon hire, then you would not want to talk about salaries with your coworkers.

by Welchwillard 1 year ago

I think as a whole most people get underpaid. If you look at the trend of inflation Vs average salary it's been departing for a while. I think a big part of that has been the dismantling of unions, and philosophy of individualism in combination with "hustle culture".

by Anonymous 1 year ago

It's only unpopular opinion if you are company owner in US I think.

by Desperate_Play6409 1 year ago

I'm honestly 100% okay with people discussing their salary. I will say though that not every employees work quality or quantity is equal and it's not always easy for people to hear they're worth less than a co-worker.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Yeah cause I really need my helpers to be on there phones even more lol. People take that information, react poorly to it and then someone who has nothing to do with the amount of money they make suffers from it

by Barneyeichmann 1 year ago

I agree with the idea but people generally don't understand context or just assume they deserve more than most people by default, so no, im not talking about my salary.

by Automatic_Prize8088 1 year ago

This is not an unpopular opinion

by Vegetable_Poet_3286 1 year ago

The belief that taking about salaries will somehow increase them, is a joke. It may create tensions and envy between coworkers. It will also generate lots of hot air.

by Gmclaughlin 1 year ago

I was making 75K. About 9 months into my position, I was assigned by my manager to work daily with a coworker who was struggling. 1 month later, I learn he was making 110K. I got a $40,000 raise just because I had the necessary knowledge to advocate for myself. Three years later, I had gotten multiple raises, now I was making $135k. Around performance review season, I asked a coworker if he would be comfortable sharing his salary with me. He was making $150. When I told him I was making $135, he agreed that that was unreasonable--that he considered me a mentor and was very thankful for how much I helped him out at work. My performance review got me $10K. I asked my manager for 10 more, and got it. If salary transparency causes tensions and envy, it's because the salaries cannot be explained by performance. If salaries are fair (i.e. based on performance/titles), and the leveling is fair, your company should be able to explain to each and every employee why their salary is what it is.

by Rmcglynn 1 year ago

Its not anyone's business what I make salary wise.

by Weird-Election 1 year ago

Unless you're the person who is making more lol

by hilperttad 1 year ago

For how long though? Do you know you're the highest paid person? How do you know that? And how could you if everyone keeps quiet?

by aftonharvey 1 year ago

Not really. I know how much salary I should be getting in my profession and what I'm willing to accept and not accept when I go for the interview. What my coworkers have negotiated is nothing to do with me. If I feel like a deserve a raise and I don't get it then I will move jobs to a company that pays me what I believe my experience brings

by quentincarter 1 year ago

And how do you know what salary you should be getting?

by aftonharvey 1 year ago

By doing job research? You should check how much your job pays on the market regularly.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Oh man you're close. And where do you think these salary websites get their data? (Hint: it's people like me and you TELLING THEM HOW MUCH WE MAKE). So you're happy to utilize the information others have provided? But refuse to put I go back into the data set? How long will the data be relevant if everyone acts like you go? And what if everyone is as selfish as you are, and now you think you know your worth but it's actually 8 yr old info, you need a raise, but don't even know it because a bunch of selfish people all think their privacy is more important than fair compensation?

by aftonharvey 1 year ago

You share pay anonymously to these companies, not directly to your coworkers which will cause issues in a variable pay occupation.

by Emerson24 1 year ago

And do you think google just makes up numbers? Or do you think PEOPLE IN YOUR INDUSTRY TELL WHAT THEY MAKE SO YOU CAN DO A FAIR COMPARISON? See how that works? They tell others what they make, and others use that information to demand compensation. You're literally advocating for salary reporting but refusing to do it yourself. You're selfish,

by aftonharvey 1 year ago

Exactly so you don't need to discuss with your co workers what they are making. The information you seek is readily available online. If you know this information before you jump into an industry then you are in a better position to negotiate what wages you should be making. If you train as an engineer and you accept a job that pays minimum wage or 20k under what the industry standard is then that's a you problem

by quentincarter 1 year ago

Did you know that some companies pay more for the same job title / degree / experience? And by you not discussing this with your coworkers, you might be the lowest compensated one in the room?

by aftonharvey 1 year ago

Remember companies have more budget to hire (advertise, train and incentives) than to retain employees. This is why it's no longer such a bad thing to change employers for a better deal.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Yeah that has always seemed strange to me. In general internal promotions would be so much less hassle. The employee already knows the company and internal processes structures. The company already knows this is a good employee who will perform well. Internal promotions also are great because in times of understaffing or high demand times managers know how to perform lower tasks so can step into these rolls temporarily and help out.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

My salary is public information so I don't care who asks.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I understand why people would want to do this and I'm for it if you think you are being underpaid. Especially if you are a woman in a male dominated industry. Personally when I'm interviewing for a job, I know what wages I'm willing to accept and also what the acceptable wage is in the industry and location I'm going for. What my coworkers are making is irrelevant to me. If I feel I deserve a raise and my company won't give me one when I request then I will look for another job that pays higher.

by quentincarter 1 year ago

Absolutely.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I'm glad I work at a place where this isn't an issue. The vast majority of people I work with have no problem sharing what their pay grade is.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Salary talk is funny: the people who should be doing it (lower and middle class) aren't and are getting taking advantage of it. Then the people who shouldn't be doing it (the upper class) can't shut up about it.

by Primary-Initial-8456 1 year ago

Why would you think this is unpopular?

by Reasonable_Shame 1 year ago

This is a popular opinion

by Brakusalize 1 year ago

Yea, no.. Imma keep that info to myself.. I've had plenty of co workers tell me what they make.. I always make more and always do circles around them.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

My salary, my business. Your salary, your business.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

One of my favorite things about working for the federal government is that the pay scale is publicly available. If you know what job I have and how long I've been there, you. Can make a reasonable estimate of my salary. It's entirely transparent. If I cared to I could go look at the federal GS pay scale and know exactly how much each of my coworkers makes. I feel confident it's reasonably fair within my agency/district. In my particular job, seniority is important to know who is in charge in an emergency in the event management is not available, so we are all aware of each other's seniority and GS level.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I was just talking with a coworker about this only a few days ago. Companies are counting on this secrecy to pay people artificially low wages. Oh what? You think you are paying your employees adequately? No you don't, because if you did, there wouldn't be any need for secrecy. You wouldn't care if your employees openly discussed their salaries. The truth doesn't fear investigation.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I disagree with this primarily for reasons mentioned by others here that people are unreasonable and overvalue their own contribution. Instead of individual disclosure, the company should provide statistics. For example, give the median, lowest, highest for say Associate, Manager level,

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I work in HR, and I've explained to managers the taboo surrounding discussions about salary are not as strong as they used to be. Younger workers are more open about talking about their salaries with one another and if there's a big pay disparity they'll find out. So, yes, workers benefit from discussing their salaries with one another.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Been burned by that discussion once. Never again will I share my salary with a colleague.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Corporate greed, lol.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Only if you don't get your panties in a wad and take your resentment out on me when you find out I make more than you. Because trust me.... it isn't your boss or the company that you will treat with resentment. It will be your coworker you see every day. And no. I'm not contributing extra to whatever work event/birthday present/coffee run/etc than everyone else just because you found out how much I make. Hard pass on talking salaries. If you disagree, I highly recommend working at a union job. So much less drama.

by Poconner 1 year ago

The best way to "talk about your salaries" is UNIONIZE

by bayerevan 1 year ago

Perhaps just me, but this does not even remotely seem like an unpopular opinion.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

This isn't unpopular.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Yeah, have your neighbor over for dinner and tell him about how much more money than him you are making over steaks.

by BasicFix66 1 year ago

I don't want to talk about salaries with coworkers. I don't want to share personal information with them

by Anonymous 1 year ago

I got a raise because I told a shift lead who I was friends with how much I was making. She convinced the GM to give me a raise.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Oh yeah that wouldn't cause daily problems.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Where I work it's pointless ti discuss since our labor contract is in the break room, so we already know everyone's wages. But yes in places where wages aren't out in the open they should be discussed.

by Nearby_Setting 1 year ago

Everyone with a low salary says this. Once you reach a comfortable salary, I'll bet the house you won't be saying this anymore.

by DealerNo 1 year ago

It's all situational and how mature and reasonable the people you discuss with are. My friends are normal reasonable adults and we have mentioned our pay many times and we all make less or more for different roles across different fields. No one gets angry about it and we're all in it together. Work place amongst my peers I keep my circle very very small when it comes to pay talk. Granted I'm im a very basic position while I finish my masters degree, I am paid low compared to my work. Unfortunately that's healthcare tho and everyone is underpaid unless you're the "director" who walks around and pretends to take phone calls all day.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

If you were unionised you'd know everyone wage as it'll be in your contract

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Unionizing will get you PIPed…

by Past_Leek 1 year ago

Something I've noticed is that people in generally higher paying jobs are more likely to talk to coworkers about their compensation. Public sector employees, too.

by Pmraz 1 year ago

It's a weird divide between white and blue collar workers. Office workers act like their rate or salary are nuclear missile codes, and yet everyone in a workshop knows exactly what each other are making. With tradespeople, they'll often disclose their rate in the preliminary at the outset describing their workplace.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

Why would what others earn influence how much you're worth? Discussing remuneration serves no good purpose.

by Successful-Copy3323 1 year ago

Have you tried working for a company who keeps all salary information in a folder on a shared drive? Because I have, more than once, actually. It's quite effective.

by Electronic-Body 1 year ago

Pay scales are too complicated for most people to understand. People also can't be counted on to act rationally. My coworkers knowing my salary does not benefit me at all. The only way you can agree with an opinion like this is if you're really dumb or if you have no experience living in the real world.

by Last-Chemist2342 1 year ago

they are complicated to give out as little as possible to employees, the more information everybody has the more leverage they have to demand more.

by Anonymous 1 year ago

You and every other disgruntled employee already have all the information you need to determine if you are being under or overpaid. Websites like Glassdoor, recruiters, industry organizations: they all have databases filled with the salary ranges of most jobs. You can get the information you need there without asking me what I make, and potentially worsening our relationship and the workplace. There are so many variables that go into employee compensation. It's not just a matter of same pay for the same job. We do need stronger unions. This is their point for existing: so that you don't have to go around asking your employees what they make, and then negotiating based on their feedback. Avoid all the social calamity.

by Wonderful-Length779 1 year ago

Agree with this. It would show any discrimination pretty quickly. Employees would fight for better pay.

by codyvonrueden 1 year ago

Yes that's how it should be.

by robeljerome 1 year ago

This is why I'm SO GLAD I'm Union! There's three tiers of drivers (depending on vehicle driven), and then within those three tiers it's based on years of service. SUPER easy to look up what everyone makes!

by Low_Charge 1 year ago

Better employees should be paid more than longer tenured employees that aren't that great.

by Bhermiston 1 year ago

The problem arises when you get a sensitive employee who takes it out on you that you earn more than them, either by micromanaging you to your boss, or quitting and leaving you with more work. Either way I won't tell you since I just want to work my two years then get the next bag increase, as should you

by Anonymous 1 year ago

or most businesses would go out of business,and you would have choas and fistfights, jealousy, and the workforce falls apart. Ever hear of communism and socialism, do a little research and see how that worked out for the people who think like you

by Quiet-Support2943 1 year ago