+29 North American beer is the best in the world, amirite?

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I used to have a lot of clients from Berlin that would fly in to visit us in Michigan, and they were obsessed with IPAs. We did everything we could to fly them as much beer as we possibly could every time. We have more variety and more styles than anywhere else on earth, the fact that you can get stouts, IPAs, porters, ales, sours, saisons, and everything in between in one brewery is literally unheard of and impossible everywhere else.

by Anissa65 2 weeks ago

Yup, and the same applies to food too. Every time I travel, I'm psyched to get back to the U.S. because of all the amazing food we have. I've been dragged here for saying that too, but it's absolutely the truth. It's just that the rest of the world has worked hard to convince themselves that our cuisine begins and ends at McDonalds.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I agree. I am from Toronto and its is by far the best place I have been to for food and nothing comes close. Tbf I haven't travelled much of the US. You can literally get anything you want within walking distance in basically any neighbourhood in the city. Coming home from Nicaragua where I ate way more "American" food than I do at home. Its not a surprise though, with Canada being so diverse.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

This is a lot more dependent on where you live in the US. With shipping good beer is almost universally available but not everywhere has good restaurants.

by ghills 2 weeks ago

Yeah, the US dominates world beer competitions.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Do you mean the ones held in the US? Like the World Series.

by reichelstone 2 weeks ago

Germany to perfect the science. US has the art.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Angry Belgian noises

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Little delirium in Brussels has had 2000 beers on offer going back ages before there was anything but Bud and blue moon available in the US..

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Belgian beer is legit. I went to Dublin last year, visited a beer café and an overwhelming share of the beers were Belgian. They didn't understand me when I ordered one with the actual pronunciation, but that's ok.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Who cares?

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Lived in Italy for 7 years and came back in 2012. America does beer on the whole better, the Germans (Munich etc) do niche beers incredibly well.

by ypacocha 2 weeks ago

Truth was spoken. If I'm not mistaken the revival of microbreweries and IPA beers was started about 15 years ago in USA. I am actually a traitor to my European values and one of the best drinks to me is Brooklyn Brewery's lager and pretty much anything they as a brewery touch. It's all i need from a beer. Light and full of flavour. European beers are great but unless im fully rested, 1-2 is enough to put me to sleep.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Exactly, as you reference the USA beer scene has just completely changed and significantly expanded in the past 15 years. Everything that can be done with beer has just about been done here, great culture of expansion and experimentation.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

No, it was nearly 40 years ago. IPA is a more recent trend, but micro brewing has been around a lot longer. Local to me is Full Sail, and they've been around since I believe 1986.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I see where your coming from, and yes just like with wine the US isn't inhibited by tradition, but the refined beauty of old lambic brewery's or trappist styles really feel impossible to match in quality in specific styles

by bettyeconn 2 weeks ago

It started back in the 1980s here. It's weird how it took so long to spread across the whole country.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Just had an incredible Ipa from Germany but they aren't as common for sure.

by Cristjaiden 2 weeks ago

Maybe all the German brewers came to America centuries ago. 😂.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I live in the pacific northwest US, which is known for craft breweries. I actually don't like beer, but for those who do, I wouldn't be surprised if there is a lot of relatively good beer in the US. I've also heard Napa Valley wines from California have become very good, rivaling French wines.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Califnoria wines have BEATEN French wines in competition.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Went to Chateau montelena a couple of years back while in Napa, didn't know about the Judgement of Paris then, but it was something that was repeatedly mentioned to us during our trip. There is even a movie about it starring Alan Rickman

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

As someone that lived in Seattle and does like beer, I miss it all the time, there's some truly excellent brews up there

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Can I get a natty ice in Europe? Don't think so. Checkmate.

by geovany19 2 weeks ago

shakes hand proudly

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I cackled so hard at this lmao

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Ah...the drink of choice of my freshman year college roommate. He used to leave empties piled all over his desk.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I don't think you understand why people drink that garbage

by Qkshlerin 2 weeks ago

NA has the most variety for sure. I favor dark beers so I agree for stouts and porters. But for the lighter stuff, I gotta go with European or Japanese.

by Slight-Animal-7993 2 weeks ago

I used to think that, but some amazing West Coast Lagers and Pilsners that do amazing pilsners.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

That's kinda true in general for food too. Yeah, you're gonna have a better pasta in Italy, or better noodles and sushi in Japan, but if you want great Mexican right down the street from great Thai that's right down the street from great Peruvian, the US is the spot.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Definitely true. You're crazy if you think a Coors or Bud is better than a Germany hefeweizen. As far as variety, there are 1000's of types of beers to choose from here, but there is some BS out there too. Sours? Wtf is that? Also, we need to dial it back on the IPAs. There's other good types of beer out there.

by Shawnwalsh 2 weeks ago

This is exactly the wrong argument. OP said North American beers are better and you go to the worst American beers VS good European beer. The BEST American beers are the best in the world. The US dominates world beer competitions.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

wow this is either stupid American patriotism or just delusional

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Idk man. You can have whatever opinion you want but objective competition like the World Beer Cup is dominated by American breweries.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

might me because US is technically the size of whole Europe or even bigger so in comparison the numbers are higher..... in comparison US is 7-8 the size of Germany in population alone.... my guess if you have 5 German breweries who actually go there there are 50 US breweries btw even tho it's called world beer cup..... it's really not. it is an American Event created and organized by an American association that aims to help US breweries. call it whatever you want but in the end it is only an American Cup at best also the costs of actually traveling from Europe to America is too damn high. so most likely many do not consider the participation worth while

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Think whatever you want. I personally enjoy the variety of American microbrews over German beers.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

you do you. I would say you never actually had real German beer anyway. but in the end it comes down to personal preference. as long as it tastes good and you enjoy it.😊

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Yuengling is worse than Budweiser. I'm not saying Bud is good, but it's better than Yeungling for sure.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

He was agreeing with you, not implying that you were talking about Coors.

by miraclelindgren 2 weeks ago

Coors Banquet beer is as good as any European beer. Imo. Not Coors Light.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Have you ever tried a real Belgian beer?

by luciecrist 2 weeks ago

Yes, and this is just my opinion. I am not slapping anyone in the face with my experience, I am just sharing it. I lived in Scandinavia for years, and tried many, many different beers.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Belgium absolutely stunts on most of the rest of Europe, and is basically the one country that really has variety in spades. Too bad it's, well, Belgium

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I found that most pubs in Europe only have a couple of staple beers they serve plus 2-3 unique kind for their region. So not a lot to choose from. While in Canada they often serve everything that you can buy at any liquor store (like 10 varieties), then they have either their own or local stuff and then seasonal stuff. So between all of these you'll always have something that you'll like more.

by Greedy-Conflict 2 weeks ago

I share this opinion as well. Was pretty let down by beer in Germany, Italy, Amsterdam and France. The beer from some of the small breweries in Oregon, NorCal… amazing.

by jonbergnaum 2 weeks ago

Aside from true lambics (Belgium), hefeweizen (Germany), and pilsener (Czechia), the US crushes EU. I lived in those countries for almost a decade and now OR is home and I couldn't be happier with the beer.

by CornerSad 2 weeks ago

Hello fellow Oregonian! All this beer talk has me looking forward to Septembeerfest in Corvallis early lol.

by jonbergnaum 2 weeks ago

I worked in Corvallis from 2002-2005 but haven't been back since--I will have to check out this (terribly-named) fest!

by CornerSad 2 weeks ago

what brands have you tasted in Germany or Netherlands ?

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

most pubs serve only the cheap standard beers that are widely regarded as piss water. it's cheap and you get drunk, that's all there is to it. especially Berlin isn't really a good place for great beers. at least from my experience.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Hopefully next time! I'm sure work at some point will want to send me again.

by jonbergnaum 2 weeks ago

This is true. And for those that aren't familiar, OP is not talking about Coors or Bud Light. Europe makes phenomenal beers, but they're typically traditional styles. Nearly all of the beer innovation is coming out of America.

by According-Maybe-2435 2 weeks ago

Up until the early 2000s, this was an unpopular opinion. Nowadays, anyone who knows anthing about been sees that American beer has equaled or surpassed European beer. Asian beer in general is probably the worst overall (it's all boring and mostly macro-brew lagers).

by No-Incident4865 2 weeks ago

"and... and BECK's!"

by armstrongchesle 2 weeks ago

OONT BECKS!

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

pisswater

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Living in VT, I meet so many European tourists to come here for the beer. The first time someone told me they had traveled from Germany to Vermont for the beer, I was pretty surprised.

by Sufficient_Data 2 weeks ago

Hill Farmstead is magical

by Ctreutel 2 weeks ago

Agree, Mexican beer is the best 😎

by Worried-Seaweed 2 weeks ago

You're probably joking, but Mexican beer definitely has its place at the table. If you live in a warm climate, there's something magical about that first long pull of an ice cold Mexican style lager after an afternoon of yard work.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

All I've got is piss warm Chango

by Zestyclose_Lychee 2 weeks ago

If we're talking macro breweries i definitely agree.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I love how people rant and rave about heineken being so much better in Europe than the US, then you get there and it's still just slightly better cheap beer

by HistoricalDistance58 2 weeks ago

I used to hate Guinness, then I visited Ireland last year and got the taste for it. It's one of my favorites now

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I loved it in ireland, I loved going from pub to pub and tasting the differences. Back here in canada the cans will do, and there's a few pubs that aren't too bad, but I miss it in ireland

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Nice ! I really love Bruxelles, it's a great city

by zschulist 2 weeks ago

Carlsberg: The European Budweiser Tiger Beer: The Natty Ice of Asia

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

The diversity and quality of US microbreweries is unmatched. Belgium comes in second. There some solid breweries in France and Scotland. Germany is kinda boring given purity laws, but they're authentic. Some people in Europe think US beer is all watered down mega brands like Coors, Bud, etc. But reality is that the microbrew scene is huge

by jackparker 2 weeks ago

You know I bet this wasn't a popular or true opinion like 20-30 years ago, but in the last decade, I'm pretty sure North America is crushing it. Just here in the PNW alone, the beer is unmatched.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

North American Ales tend to be superior, but European Lager is still miles better as a whole. Yeah sure 1 in 5 NA craft breweries know how to make a great lager, but a German lager or a Czech pilsner is going to beat out the average NA lager 9 times outa 10.

by According_Survey 2 weeks ago

If 1 in 5 NA craft breweries know how to make a great lager, you're talking about nearly 2,000 great lagers.

by hackettgarrick 2 weeks ago

I mean yeah but good luck finding a great niche Helles lager from Oregon in Massachusetts.

by According_Survey 2 weeks ago

I agree but there are no Trappist monasteries in the U.S., Mexico or Canada. That's the only drawback I see. No true quads. Ommegang and Sierra Nevada Ovila are good but nothing makes me happier than monk brew.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

The beers in Poland were cheap and fantastic. However you are correct, they had that similar flavor profile

by Embarrassed-Dot 2 weeks ago

Beauty is in the eye of the beer holder, nobody else's opinion matters

by Amazing-Award 2 weeks ago

I don't know where you went, but England have lot's of differents beers, Belgium is know for their beers as well, and lot's of other countries in Europe. It depends on your location mostly but lot's of places in Europe have lot's of choices of beers, you just went to the wrong one

by raymundoroberts 2 weeks ago

Slow down. Colorado and the west coast make amazing beers.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

If you can, try "The Streets" it's made by Trillium. 10% abv and it's a double NE IPA. So smooth.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Eh, I'd take a NEIPA over a traditional Harpoon IPA any day. Love chugging high booze hop juice

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Hey, drink what you like. Honestly I wish the IPA fad in general would die down. It annoys me that when I go in the beverage center it can be hard to find anything else on the shelves.

by napoleonkub 2 weeks ago

Yeah tbh I've been more into lagers lately - Jacks Abbey makes some great ones!

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

NEIPA tastes like barley wine and is horrible. West coast best coast (for IPAs)

by Claude23 2 weeks ago

Texas has good beer too.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

What part of MA? I'm South Shore, and I'm familiar with most of these and agree that they are S tier.

by Luz45 2 weeks ago

Worcester 👍🏻

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Haven't been up woosta way in a while. I'll keep it in mind.

by Luz45 2 weeks ago

And Rogue is considered a joke circus brewery here in Oregon. We don't export the good stuff.

by CornerSad 2 weeks ago

I've traveled all continents with RCAF and I have to.... agree? I always go back to Ricard's Red, Moosehead, Belgian Moon. What I love about LCBO is that they have some really nice things, and each LCBO might have a different stock. (I even asked a manager of my local LCBO to see if he can stock "Karlovačko", a Croatian beer and he did). They also have tons of local craft beers. ​ Some of my other favourites: Tenents Karlovačko Peroni Saporo

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Belgium would like to have a word.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Anheuser-Busch InBev owns like a solid 1/3 of the global market. So, yeah, not really surprised.

by savannahcollier 2 weeks ago

Every single awards group that hands out awards internationally awards more often to north american breweries than anywhere else. From my perspective, the US has been pushing hard on scientific advancements in perfecting brewing and is currently setting every trend internationally (assuming they allow it to be imported). A majority of the places where that is not changing are places that restrict imports so the populace doesn't have the day-to-day exposure to what the rest of the world is doing in the beer space.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Sounds like you haven't been to Czechia.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Japanese beer asahi is my fav

by Miserable-Welcome 2 weeks ago

It wasn't, but now it is.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Ok..

by Luz45 2 weeks ago

Huh, had no idea America's beers are out above the rest for the most part. Go us!

by Legal-Priority 2 weeks ago

PM me next time you are in Belgium and I will take you somewhere to have 10 completely different tasting beers.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

As a Belgian-Canadian, I slap you. In Brugge you can go to cellars that have been brewing for 500 years. You can walk into a monastery in Belgium and buy amazing beer from a monk. You don't find this experience in North America. You then also find: young Belgian brewers who have taken cue from North American fads, and incorporate them into the tradition, and now you have basically the same variety as North American science experiment beer. Plus the rest of it. And not all craft beer is good in America or Canada, no matter how many flavors or ‘beer sommeliers' or ‘pairing courses' are pushed.. Popcorn beer… Cotton candy beer .. I give people points for throwing everything at the wall , but not for refined, generational tradition and taste built into the product. It's like saying Las Vegas is a Mecca compared to Venice. You haven't spent much time in Brussels (or Amsterdam or Berlin) because there are thousands on tap - in fact way before the craft beer fad in US and Canada, Brussels famously has a bar (Little Delirium) with 2000 different beers, many ON TAP piped to you from the ceilings. I've never seen such a comprehensive beer bar in Canada. Now, I love Canadian and American beer too. But stfu and get cultured or stay at home.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Everyone knows beer is only good if you buy it from a monk, right?

by azieme 2 weeks ago

Until now I tried 30 different beers from North America. And every one was bad. Non of the beer was from a big company.

by chance07 2 weeks ago

I am totally aware of that fact. With from a big company I meant that I not talk about Budweiser, coors and others.

by chance07 2 weeks ago

Beer snobs in general are some of the most annoying people to ever exist

by miraclelindgren 2 weeks ago

Ever met a wine snob?

by Overall-Check 2 weeks ago

NA beer is great! Unfortunately most bars still just have about 5-10 IPAs on draft when there's hundreds of other styles, but that's just me being nit picky

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I really don't find that to be true at all anymore, at least where I live. There definitely WAS a time where the craft beer selection was oversaturated by IPAs, but these days it's much more well rounded.

by Julielockman 2 weeks ago

The Japanese do a much better job at American beers. Give me an Orion or a asahi any day. Even a Chinese Tsing Tao is better.

by Ecstatic_Economics 2 weeks ago

F that! German and UK beer slaps, way better in quality. They'd know, they've been at it for centuries.

by Savings_Leader4224 2 weeks ago

never been to home brewery in tzech rebublic, Germany or Belgium I guess?

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I lived in Germany for a year with the Army and their 4 kinds of beer are better than anywhere else but they can't make an IPA, or a hazy, or a stout, or a sour, or a farmhouse, or a rice lager, or a pale ale, or an ESB, etc etc.

by Anissa65 2 weeks ago

Yeah because nobody likes that trash here.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

There are 5000 different types of German beer which are made by more than 1300 breweries. wit definitely much more then main catogiers, from memory I recall at leat 18 styles which have different types

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

What are the 5000 styles? Do you mean you can get 3 distinct styles of beer at every brewery in Germany? Do you have a source for that claim? Sounds exaggerated like… a lot. I would bet it's closer to 20 styles. I guess you can shuffle four ingredients around a lot of different ways. Even if they had a million, they still fail when it comes to overall variety. No stouts, no IPAs, no sours, no ESBs, etc.

by Anissa65 2 weeks ago

Because Americans perfected it.

by Anissa65 2 weeks ago

European beer trumps North American beer by a mile.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Unfortunate choice in verbs.

by Pristine_Mushroom584 2 weeks ago

And unit of measurement.

by Hassie45 2 weeks ago

Depends on the style.

by Anissa65 2 weeks ago

Depends on the style of beers. But yeah, to me nothing beats an authentic amber Pilsner.

by gilda44 2 weeks ago

Sounds more like you only every tried the big brands in Europe. Like always big brands do not really try to make somehting unique they make something for everybody. There are many awesome craft breweries that make unique IPA and Stouts.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

100% truth, best weed too.

by Friesenlisa 2 weeks ago

Beer is beer!

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Lol.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I think our breweries in the American south (Tx especially) are amazing. Great, strong beer. I like lagers though, and Thailand has an incredible smooth and all round amazing lager called Chang 🐘

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Japanese beer>

by Famous-Smell118 2 weeks ago

I've been to the USA. North american beer is not even the best beer is north america. Though, it's by far the best pisswater I've ever drink.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Hey neighbor. Right next door we have a hell of a craft beer scene going also.

by rippinaida 2 weeks ago

CDA?

by gilda44 2 weeks ago

Yep also sandpoint has some good beer.

by rippinaida 2 weeks ago

Matchwood brewery is so good!

by gilda44 2 weeks ago

Oh yeah that makes sense. You know, I've noticed as well how much craft beer tastes very samey. I work at one and we go way out of our way to make different stuff, but we're pretty unusual.

by gilda44 2 weeks ago

There's one really awesome brewery nearby that has a great seasonal rotation of their own sours, IPAs, lagers, stouts, etc that is my go to spot in town. Otherwise yeah so many places make samey tasting beer. If I'm ever out in Spokane I'll have to see what's out there ;)

by Hefty_Outside 2 weeks ago

Anywhere on the West Coast this is definitely not true. Even dive bars and sporting events have decent beers nowadays.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I'm in Boston, I'm realizing we're still puritans over here lol

by Hefty_Outside 2 weeks ago

What backwater burg do you live in? even in the most rural bar, i can find better than that near me.

by jonathonschultz 2 weeks ago

Best beers in the world in order (my order) Scotland 🏴󠁧󠁢󠁳󠁣󠁴󠁿🤌 Germany Ireland Belgium England

by Outside_Gas8783 2 weeks ago

Multiplying 0 by any number is still 0. Beer is disgusting piss water, doesn't matter if it's the "best piss water" it's still drinking piss.

by brian05 2 weeks ago

It's UNPOPULAR opinions, the idea is that people don't like them. Get over yourself, you're far too defensive over a crappy beverage. Unless you're one of those weirdos who makes alcohol your personality

by brian05 2 weeks ago

They are great eating, I get a bear license every year.

by Spiritual-Ticket 2 weeks ago

ALL beer tastes like piss.

by Accomplished_Word 2 weeks ago

This of course implies you drank piss.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Anyone who knows anything about beer knows USA is the undisputed beer champion. The beer scene in the US was a joke until home-brewing was legalized in the 70s and microbreweries started to pop up. Now the US has almost 10k breweries.

by Turcottehildega 2 weeks ago

LOL

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago