-20 working a traditional 9-5 job is not a privilege, amirite?

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Worst. Interview answer. Ever.

by pschuster 2 weeks ago

Haha, Interviewer: Where do you see yourself in 5 years? Op: so you see here...

by Relative-Mistake 2 weeks ago

Back in December my company did stay interviews where we were asked what we like and don't like about the job and our direct supervisors (it's a very large campus with 5 or 6 supervisors that manage different teams). When he asked me where I see myself in 5 years I asked "in general or with this company?" And he said with this company. I only held back a tiny bit and I told him "what would I even do? There is no upward movement here unless you're gonna step down, and I'm not sure I would want to do your job. I'm sure as hell not gonna be working the desk in 5 years" (I'm a front desk receptionist coming up on 2 years here). He just nodded and wrote something down and moved on, thankfully.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

If you answered, working somewhere else, then they would look to replace you. If you answered, in your job as manager, they'd give you more random responsibility without the extra pay to 'help you'. If you answered, in the exact same position I am now, then it shows no lack of interest and they'll note you as middle pack. Or sometimes, they just ask it because it's a stupid question someone with little creativity came up with and then they don't care what answer you give.

by Relative-Mistake 2 weeks ago

I suppose to be a smart ass I would say in the White House. As we have learned 'anyone' can be president.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Agreed. I had a revelation while tripping in LSD back in the day that I never wanted to be known for my job. Like when someone asks what I do, I don't say "engineer", I say "I like to climb and ski and go to breweries and bet on sports and do trivia"

by Greedy-Bedroom 2 weeks ago

winemaking---wine is a drug.

by Idell80 2 weeks ago

As always, people whining about this stuff have never honestly considered the alternative.

by Fair-Pin 2 weeks ago

Exactly! I grew up with tons of siblings, and not much money. I enjoy physical activity and labor in general, and for the first decade of my working life I worked various blue collar jobs. Have a 9-5 office job is so much easier by comparison.

by Fair-Pin 2 weeks ago

I would rather suffer through change than continue where we're headed.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

The irony is that you're eluding to the idea that someone will make the change for you to then live in a different society. If you want to do something you have to put in the work.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

And what change are you thinking, exactly?

by Fair-Pin 2 weeks ago

My brother in Christ, what doesnt need change in America? We are not doing great.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

It beats working in a coal mine. But also what white collar jobs are 9-5 now? Only working 8 hours is a luxury these days and rare AF. Luckily since we are work from home, it is the equivalent to my travel time that I tend to have to work over for no extra pay I'll add. They more often than not absorb our lunch also so it is easily 10 hour days… can anyone relate or is my work an anomaly?

by Aware_Guest 2 weeks ago

Every white collar job I've had had a "40 hour work week" that resulted in like 10 hours of actual work, 20 hours of superfluous meetings, and 10 more hours of trying not to get caught watching YouTube

by Greedy-Bedroom 2 weeks ago

My work from home routine is doing one email check and response session every three hours. The actual work usually amounts to 90 minutes max.

by False-Position-1570 2 weeks ago

Also, 9-5 isn't an 8 hour day. By law non-exempt employees get a 1/2 hour unpaid lunch minimum. At most 9-5 is a 7 1/2 hour day.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

They also live in the safest, healthiest, wealthiest society that ever existed in human history. They can't comprehend that 75% of the world would literally murder them if it meant they got to take their place

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Yeah, if anyone finds a way around working, please let me know.

by Majestic-Dog1754 2 weeks ago

Yea seems like a kid, I'm pretty sure all of us at some point accept this as fate and move on with our lives. I guess just because we're in the digital age we should all become youtubers and tiktokers

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

"Especially in the digital age there are SO many ways to make money without going through the traditional route " wtf are you going to be an "influencer" or start an Onlyfans?

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Yeah those are pretty saturated with other unskilled people.

by Rae12 2 weeks ago

Yeah, I second this. I know there are exceptions, but in the general sense, it's nowhere close, even with me doing it full time.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Exactly, to do what??? The people they see who have van life travel vlogs, or sell handmade jewelry on Etsy are either dirt poor, have a rich partner or parent, or they were the .001% who actually made it big on social media.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Those aren't the only ways to make money though

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Drop shipping, and trading crypto aren't real jobs. Side hustles at best.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Nobody says that you have to work a regular 9-5 job. If you can make money other ways then go for it. But it's like the athletes at the Olympics - the people who do it well make it look easy, even though it really really isn't.

by plind 2 weeks ago

I'd even say this, half my friend group didn't go to college. So they make fun of us for going and being in debt working a 9-5. Although it's not perfect, those same friends are never free on the weekends or can ask off and have enough money for trips because they work manual labor jobs or are cashiers and waiters. Sure 9-5 isn't amazing but at least I like my job and get to work remote instead of bagging groceries and not being poor.

by BlackberryIntrepid 2 weeks ago

I just got my first 9-5 after bartending right out of high school for 14 years. I'm the happiest I've ever been. I get it's not for everyone, but I have stability, health insurance, paid time off, and it's entry level. Again, I know it's not everyone's experience, but it's miles better than anything I've done before.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

This is very true. My sister's husband jokes with me about the 9-5 (all in good nature) and being in college debt, but he can never get time off and has to miss all the weekend plans, vacations opportunities, etx. So, in a nutshell, he misses almost everything. He can never get off, and if he does, he has to make up for it in some way, which in most cases can be a hassle for him. I just say, "Hey, I'm not coming in tomorrow," and then get paid for it.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Those haters think that anyone can run a company in trades and be successful, failing to recognize that the people who made it and stayed there also educated themselves and eventually created a 9-5 work setting so that they can kick back a little. No one wants to be 60 and still hammering away on the roof during a hot summer day.

by OneIncrease 2 weeks ago

The best outcome you can hope for in that kind of life is retiring early on total disability.

by False-Position-1570 2 weeks ago

Not everyone are meant to be entrepreneurs. Some people really hustle to make it. Working more than 40 hrs, not fixed hours.

by No-Plate2611 2 weeks ago

Not everyone can be an entrepreneur. It's simple as that, the whole system just doesn't work if everyone is their own boss

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

the whole system just doesn't work if everyone is their own boss It could, just not the way they think it would. Instead of being one cog in the machine, they'd be the whole damn machine, doing all the tasks instead of just one. Taking orders, manufacturing the product, shipping out the product, all by themselves. It's like the ones who want to live on a homestead and quit working. Like damn dude, you're going to work 3 times as hard growing all your food, processing all that food for storage, and if you have no income at all, your clothing situation could get dire. I'm a small c communist. From each their ability (work) to each their need (food, shelter, health care, etc). Cash money is the simplest way to exchange work for goods and services. We need a stronger social safety net to shrink the wealth gap, but otherwise the economy works the way it needs to work: people have needs and other people provide those needs. There's nothing wrong with making profit as a way to fund future investment, but too much damn money goes into dark pockets and quits moving through the system. But no one should mooch off the work of others because they're too lazy to function.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

This. Most of my friends have 9-5 jobs and entrepreneurship doesn't sound appealing to any of them. I'm the opposite. I work way better as my own boss, and don't mind giving up benefits/stability for freedom/flexibility.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Just out of curiosity, how many hours do you usually work in a week?

by legrosbria 2 weeks ago

not all companies you work 9-5s at are mega conglomerate corporate machines. You can find great places to work that also provide routine and stability and don't view you as just a number.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I was thinking this. I work a "9-5" and yet don't work in a corporate office (I work in special ed). Yeah, it's tough at times and I have to work a lot, but I did when I was waiting tables too. At least now I can reliably tell you that yeah, I can make it on Saturday night, I know I won't work. I can tell you I'm open for happy hour cause I'm off at 5 every day. I can yell you how much my paycheck will be on average. None of those were the case when I was waiting tables / bartending, and even then I was more of a corporate number than I am now

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Exactly. I'm upper-middle management in a smallish tech-based company. I like what I do, I love the people I work with, and I'm able to say things to my team like, "I'm sorry you're sick, please take care of yourself and let me know what you need." Or "Yes, you can work at home and wait for the a/c repair guy today." It's great. I've had some awful jobs in the past and I'd be happy to spend the rest of my working years in this environment.

by jesshills 2 weeks ago

I like the "9-5" because my schedule is the same every week. There's no closing shift followed by opening. I know exactly how much each paycheck will be. I get PTO. I get health insurance. I always have 2 consecutive days off and get paid holidays.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I like the "9-5" because my schedule is the same every week It would be the same every week working fewer hours and/or days as well.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

What is the alternative? People still need goods and services that require labor, if they didn't, then there wouldn't be money in it. A 9-5 job in an office is living is a better life than 99.9% of humans have ever lived. Sure there are people who make money in other ways, but they also work very hard and we still need some people actually doing the traditional work that needs to be done. Your perspective is warped by thinking the default life is not working and working is an intrusion. The default life for humanity is starving and struggling all day for scraps of food. The 9-5 is an escape from that

by Significant-Alarm 2 weeks ago

My take is similar to yours. Someone that I know recently was telling me about how horrible it is to work in a corporation/office for somebody else Monday through Friday and they were very stressed out about it. It's all about perspective. I told them that they are welcome to not work for someone else and secure their food and shelter some other way, as in, hunt for deer and build a hut, capture rainwater, grow their own vegetables, make their clothing out of animal hide, etc. Well, they didn't like that idea either. I'd say as humans we have at the best that we ever have, looking back through history. I will gladly trade my time for money to buy my essentials, rather than go out and get them myself.

by leuschkesebasti 2 weeks ago

From my understanding, humans worked less as peasants (more during planting and harvest season of course), and much less as nomadic people or at beginnings of civilization. Granted life sucked then, but at many points in history people worked less and were more connected with their work. That being said I agree as a whole that we've been comfortable enough to forget the default is starving and severely struggling. But the mental and emotional fatigue is a different type of struggle than what people faced in the past. No citation for that last one though.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

How do you define a privilege? A privilege does not have to he something that you enjoy. A privilege is something that not everyone has but improves your life when you have it.

by Conscious-Pack 2 weeks ago

If working a job was fun and convenient, employers wouldn't have to pay anyone to do it. That said, 40 hours per week definitely does impact people's lives. On the other hand, we could say this about any significant amount of time. 32 hours, 24 hours, 4 hours; it's just too much! There has to be a balance somewhere, and 8 hours a day isn't wildly unreasonable. That works out to about 24% of every week. Not a terrible deal, if that job will keep you financially afloat and otherwise independent. It's the weirdos that brag about working 80, 100, 120 hours per week that really make me scratch my head. How would anyone consider this a brag? This is just an out-loud advertisement for having made horrible life decisions. Now, there is definitely a conversation to be had about wages today. We're not exactly living in "getting paid in company scrip" days, but it feels like we're not far from it. With the shameless price gouging in housing and other essentials, the average worker has far less spending power and financial freedom than we did, even just a decade ago. And it's been on the decline for several decades.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

There is still room for improvement though. I do not know the actual statistics but I know companies can get people to work 2 extra hours a day if they make sure they get 3 days off a week. I have worked at 2 different companies that did this and productions and quality actually went up. One of the companies failed on keeping that promise and we ended up working the 2 extra hours and gaining 2 days. They claimed we fell behind but even our shift leaders called the bull on that as they had the numbers and we was actually ahead of schedule. What it was is they took on extra contracts due to said production increase. Greed got the best of them and now they are having issues keeping employees.

by Isaiharber 2 weeks ago

Yep and there's also swing work too. I do four on four off and personally I love it. Even though in doing twelve hour shifts, only heading into work for six months of the year maximum is great. Basically get an Easter long weekend to rest up or actually go do something inbetween shifts.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Having all your days off in a row really helps out as well so that idea I like. I use to work in hospitality and always hated that they split my days off and always on the weirdest of days. ( mine in particular was Tuesdays and Thursdays, but even then that was if I could actually have my days off).

by Isaiharber 2 weeks ago

Saying that work is only 24% per week is a terrible take. A 9 to 5 job means you'll have to wake up at 6/7 am, go to work, and be back at home around 6pm, tired from your day. With healthy sleeping time, you go to bed at 10/11pm. Work cleary feels like it's taking 80% of your time.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

You don't understand, that person only eats and sleeps because their job forces them to

by Greedy-Bedroom 2 weeks ago

And apparently eating is a chore that doesn't count as free time.

by adolfo53 1 week ago

Well, that's because we need money to survive in the society. If you can make money by doing something else - you have plenty of opportunities to do so. The issue that you are no realizing is that working a 9-5 (40 hours/week) is by far the easiest money you will ever make. It will not make you wealthy, but as far as time commitment vs reward is concerned, it can be a great proposition. Do you know any successful entrepreneur (not some social media poser) that only works 40 hours per week?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I hate the 9-5 because it's the entire middle of the day gone. I work 2:30-10am and still have most of my day. Have to go to bed pretty early but I'd rather have a day to do whatever I want than a few extra hours at night to watch tv.

by Accurate_Farmer7471 1 week ago

If this was a popular opinion then our society would collapse. All the necessities and luxuries that you use in your life are because people are willing to work traditional jobs.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

yeah most people are willing not to be homeless or die from hunger

by baileyethelyn 1 week ago

They're willing to survive. The opinion is still pretty popular but definitely a privilege having a college a degree and being able to land these jobs

by KeyCurrency5102 1 week ago

I like the 9-5. Perfect hours to do my morning routine, and still have nighttime and weekends to enjoy myself.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

But imagine a 9-3. Especially for those of us with kids who go to school!

by Anonymous 1 week ago

That would be amazing lol

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Obviously everyone would like to work 2 hours less lol

by OddWorldliness 1 week ago

It's like, imagine if you could have more than an hour to yourself outside of waking, working, commuting, eating, and sleeping.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Salary, non laborious, benefits, fixed schedule, weekends & nights off... Yea office work is kinda privileged. Thats not to say it doesnt suck in its own ways, but its pretty cushiony compared to many industries, where you also have to slave away but in far worse conditions.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I understand that but I've seen many people who say they love working a 9-5 and wouldn't trade it for anything. That's why I suspected it could be unpopular

by Anonymous 1 week ago

As someone who spent +10 years working evening shifts and every weekend, missing out on time with friends and family, pulling teeth to get coverage if I had to out/take vacation, unable to catch dinner or a movie or a happy hour, my current 9-5 feels like a damn privledge. I've spent more time with my friends in the past 2 years than I did in the whole decade before. It's not all sunshine and roses, but at least it's stable and gives me time to have a life.

by PenSignal 1 week ago

Right there with ya, that's why I became a bartender

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Most 40 hour jobs do not actually require 40 hours of work, especially if you are amazing at what you do and have gotten extremely good at it. Once you build up your skill set you can start looking for WFH jobs and spend your 'leftover' time as you please.

by Significant-Fox-6603 1 week ago

But most of them still require you to stay 40 hours per week on site, so...

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Once Covid sent us home, I worked maaayyybeee 5 hours a week. Just had to be around unless my phone rang. I know tons of people just like me

by Greedy-Bedroom 1 week ago

Well, hope you have rich parents then. If working was fun, no one would be paid for the experience.

by Massive-Choice-5014 1 week ago

there are fun jobs that are also paid

by baileyethelyn 1 week ago

I love my 9-5! It allows for amazing work life balance. I have time to go to the gym before work, I have all evenings, weekends and holidays free. I never have to try to schedule plans around my schedule because it's normal business hours. It also helps that my work is very flexible and it's never an issue to take an hour off here or there during the day to go to an appointment if needed. I also WFH. Wouldn't have it any other way!

by ConsiderationHot 1 week ago

You see 8 hour days wouldn't suck if the pay was better ya know. It ain't bad once you find the job u like but that job may nit be high in pay

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's wage slavery. We're wage slaves.

by Few_Current 1 week ago

Who thinks it is a privilege? Most people just view it as something they have to do. An undesirable necessity. You complain about working 40 hours to barely make ends meet, then say "why is a whole third of the day strapped up in working???". Because for people barely making ends meet working less than that would mean not making ends meet.

by maeve79 1 week ago

Well I hope you find the magical scenario that gets you out of it but working nights and weekends sucks ass worse than the 9-5 grind, in my opinion. The rest of the world is set up for being off work nights and weekends and it's a pain in the ass to deal with appointments and a social life when you work nights and weekends and try to get sleep too, especially when you have kids. Cuz you are tired.

by No_Plantain5733 1 week ago

I work a ‘9-5' (7.5 hour working day with lunch break). I am hybrid at a convenient location in a nice office, and I really enjoy my coworkers. My work is meaningful, intellectually stimulating, and I feel like I'm making a positive impact on the world. I make a good salary that affords me a great lifestyle. I have no interest in hustling online, when I go home I am done with work and can live the rest of my life. It lets me focus on my marriage, my friendships, and other interests. I am very privileged and certainly don't feel I'm wasting my life away.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I guess you would go back to being a caveman, hunting for food, and fighting off enemy tribes. Since if everyone had your attitude, no one would want to work, and no one would work. No hospitals, no schools, no groceries, no police, no firefighters, no road repairs. Very fast, society would be like in the ancient times. Maybe not cavemen like, but hunting and farming. Plus guns, since those are useful in fending off enemy tribes. You only having to work 40 hours a week, in human conditions, and making money for exchange for goods, which you can spend when other people work for your comfort and safety, is a privilege. Yes, other people have it way easier and way better than you, but 99,9%+ of all humans that ever lived had it much much worse, many are even today. It is a privilege

by Schmidtkarelle 1 week ago

This 9-5 is really cutting in on my Xbox time.

by Elisabeth17 1 week ago

Well if no one worked traditional jobs, what would you spend money on? Products wouldn't be produced. There would be no services. Fact is you don't want to work but you want everyone else to work so you can enjoy the spoils.

by annaharris 1 week ago

It's a necessity, not a privilege. Making a good salary at your 9-5 and not $8 is the privilege.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

technically you're right. companies aren't obligated to hire anyone.

by Infamous_Client177 1 week ago

Try a job that isn't a "9 to 5" and you'll see why some people are loyal to them. It's a different perspective if you worked part time in a restaurant before getting an office job.

by kattieromaguera 1 week ago

A 9-5 with a consistent schedule, salary, healthcare, paid time off and other perks is totally not a privilege. /s

by Delilahsipes 1 week ago

40 hours a week - I remember my first part time job. Its pretty simple - you can be expect to get paid for the level of effort and the value of the work you provide. If you think you are under valued - pack up and go elsewhere. More than 60% of jobs in the US are small businesses. Probably higher than that. Just normal people who put in the time and stress to build a company. Dont like working for someone else - throw your chips in and build your own job . No one in this world owes you a damn thing.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's a necessity not a privilege yes . Shortening work hours is the ideal humanity is working towards luckily just very slowly

by Anonymous 1 week ago

This is why I do it as a gen x, PTO, 401k, work funds my life style, money gives me options, healthcare, consistency. Yes, I would love to be on a beach in Jamaica braiding peoples hair but that doesn't pay the bills.

by daren15 1 week ago

Boo hoo

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I bet you're fun at parties and a hit with the ladies.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

True. The wild thing is also that everyone could work the same if not better with everyone working like half of that if you would just organise things slightly better.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

You could always move to the country and become a farmer.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Yeah them office jobs are tough. Reality is everyone cant work on a computer someone still has to dig ditches and build stuff. Whining about not wanting to do a 9-5 while also not doing everything in your power to not have to, ie starting your own business where you will work well beyond 9-5 in order to not have to do it until your 70 is not helpful or reality.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

What's the alternative?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Naw, it's a privilege. Try working a 2-10 with hardly any weekends off, and when you do get weekends off, your management makes you work them anyway. Work any night shift job or evening shift job and your social life literally goes caput. Nothing is open, no one invites you anywhere because of your schedule. I would KILL for a 9-5 office job with weekends off.

by Qkutch 1 week ago

As somebody that worked for over a decade doing night shifts in fast food, believe me a lot of those people dream of a traditional 9 to 5. Yeah it may seem boring and soul crushing to you. But at least you work a normal day schedule, you get weekends off, you know what time you're going home, you probably get a couple holidays off, you probably have some mediocre benefits that a lot of other people don't have When I finally got out of fast food and I took a traditional 9 to 5 job after finishing my degree, it made my quality of life so much better. It was a dream come true.

by Kohlercandido 1 week ago

I work about 15-18 days a month 10h, sometimes i get 5 days off in a row. It's an office job, this is the best formula for me. Ofc can work from home when i need or want too

by Anonymous 1 week ago

I work 7-3. I am a morning person, and then I have a greater portion of the afternoon left over. Plus, I thrive on routine. Find what works for you.

by Sweaty_Estimate 1 week ago

9-5 sucks. 7-3 is where it's at. Actually able to got to places before they close

by kleinalanis 1 week ago

I hated the idea of a 9-5. Then I worked retail for a few years. I love the ability to at least plan my life around a consistent 9-5. Being able to just get tickets to a weekend concert without wondering if I have to work is awesome. That being said. If I could get all of this while working less I would.

by Neat-Paramedic1194 1 week ago

Sounds like a bad job. I would aim higher.

by Royal_Recording3724 1 week ago

20 years old been working as a steamfitter for 8 hours 5 days a week with nice benefits best thing to ever happen to me

by zena18 1 week ago

This is probably besides the point. But I have more grievance with the amount of tax you pay once you get to 100,000 a year. It's 25k in taxes. Compared to what's just a few thousand in taxes at half that income at 50,000.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

40 hours is a lot. What I have issue with more is that I work 40 hours a week and still need side hustles like selling plasma and doing paid surveys just so I have money to do things I enjoy. Selling plasma is quick and easy but at the same time, I shouldn't HAVE to do those things. I don't have any kids or a home but if you're working full time with a college degree like i do, you should be able to live comfortably. Not wealthy but at least a decent standard of living. What I hate even more is how on some days, when I get off work, doing things like playing video games or watching a movie can feel like a chore due to the nature of my work, which is sales. I have no shortage of movies, video games, etc at my apartment but it's like what's the point of having these things if they just sit there and collect dust?

by Anonymous 1 week ago

It's a lot simpler than you're making it out to be. Find something you enjoy, find a job within that industry. Just because people work a 9-5 doesn't mean they are miserable

by Big-Yam326 1 week ago

There is this thing you live in you see it is called a society. Obviously, you absolutely have other options than working a typical nine to five job. You can try to do whatever random small jobs you can, perhaps live out of your car so you don't have to pay insanely high rent. Maybe invest in crypto- and hope it doesn't collapse wiping out whenever you put in. A different option is you can go live off grid. So instead of 8 hours a day, you get to work a lot more, growing your own crops, lots of physical labor, and pray you never get sick.

by Awkward-Anxiety1041 1 week ago

1) you only get just enough to make ends meet if you're not very good at this adulting thing 2) at any point in human history if you told people they could ensure food and shelter giving up only a third of their day they'd say sign me up 3) you're free to go for any of those alternative ways to make money, best of luck

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Have you made money with a less traditional approach? How was it?

by angelo63 1 week ago

This is such an entitled view of the world.

by Fast_Ad6349 1 week ago

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by Anonymous 1 week ago

Dude we all hate working but yes it's 100% a privilege to have a 9-5 job that pays you enough to only have to have one 9-5 job.

by doviejerde 1 week ago

Changing jobs might be the answer

by rowetracey 1 week ago

Lol 9 to 5... Some people want to work 25 or 30 hours a week and have a 6 figure lifestyle😂🙄. I mean yeah it'd be great, and perhaps it'll be possible in the future with technology, automation, and lots of government interference/"help", but as of now it's generally not feasible. Not to mention our ancestors would've probably killed to work only 40 hours a week to have what we have now.

by InternationalPin 1 week ago

There are still a lot of analog jobs in this digital age.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Considering how they're making being homeless illegal ig it is a privilege now. You can either choose to work or spend your life in a debtor's prison.

by claudekutch 1 week ago

9 to 5 is nothing! In my country we do 8 to 5!

by ReplacementVast1422 1 week ago

This is one of the reasons why I'm retraining as an IT specialist: 4-day workweek. Maybe not in my first job, but sometime.

by Ancient_Survey_9765 1 week ago

I agree that the traditional 8 hour work day approach is not a healthy approach for people.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Believe it or not it is very possible to find good employers. And while entry level may be not particularly great on the wage scale...presumable you would move up, get promoted, or move on to another employer who will pay you more. I've been in my field for 20 years and I make great money...didn't start out that way, but typically people get paid more as they gain experience.

by Berryswaniawski 1 week ago

You get to work a 9-5? Lucky... I get to work whenever my employer tells me to, doesn't matter the day or time.

by CommonUnited 1 week ago

The point is to understand how close we are to absolute societal collapse. Look at what happened during the great depression. Within a year, millions of people lost any chance at income. People were so broke and hungry they literally packed some clothes and just started walking - with no money, no food, and no job - because that was a better option than staying where they were. People were so broke they were selling their children.

by Automatic_Wash 1 week ago

If you think working a "9-5 job" is hard, try starting your own business.

by Keon44 1 week ago

I like having my evenings and weekends consistently free. You might not like it, but I like consistency and free time more than I like money believe it or not. As long as I'm able to find my hobbies, 9-5 (or more like 7:30-4:30 with an hour lunch for me) is great. I'll admit it helps I largely enjoy my job though.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

That's great as long as it doesn't burn you out enjoy it!

by Anonymous 1 week ago

The alternative is growing your own food and basically living to survive. The 9-5 gives most people enough income to not only survive but also thrive a little - a lot.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Work is no privilege, it's a nigh requirement for survival.

by barneykub 1 week ago

It's not a brag

by freedaokeefe 1 week ago

I am super grateful for my job. I provide my family with a good life, collaborate with fantastic people, and get to solve complex problems. I don't feel like a slave. I feel like someone that is building something. I think your focus should be on finding the job that you enjoy.

by Anonymous 1 week ago

no it's specializing in skills that allow you to earn money without slaving away in the traditional confines of a 9-5 independent of your time

by Anonymous 1 week ago

Can you give me an example? Pretending that entrepreneurs work less hours than a standard 9-5 is insane. Also we need people working these jobs for society to function, why shame them for it?

by hanslesch 1 week ago

My 9-5 is pretty fantastic.. Tons of PTO, great benefits.. We just went to a four day work week even though we're all salaried. Not every 9-5 is some soul crushing existence..

by Ok-Bat1537 1 week ago

I feel like a 4 day work week would solve all of my problems. 2 days is just not enough to recoup. But sadly I have not found any in my area

by Anonymous 1 week ago