Also, as some have pointed out, a lot of what you've watched is literally aimed at young adults/kids.
by Anonymous1 week ago
That makes sense. I wasn't sure if that was the case or if that's just what was ‘mainstream'. I picked animes that my sister(who is close to my age) loves and watched parts of them to send her better memes/talk with her about them but just couldn't get through most of them.
by Budget_Yam_43001 week ago
Well, that's the reality of it. You watched 5 'shonen', a genre that means 'young boy' for the target demographic. Sailor Moon is for young girls. And the only other anime you watched are Death Note and Jojos. This IS the equivalent of watching western children shows like and then complaining about it being too simplistic. I am not too sure how you think Death Note had simplistic characters though. Most of the characters have pretty interesting morals. Or how it feels like a childrens book that is easily explained. Same with JoJos unless you just watched the first 3 episodes or something. Neither are my favorite shows in the world but they don't seem to fit any of your complaints. I'm not one for trying to get people into anime. I don't understand forcing yourself to like something you aren't already interested in. But anime is incredibly varied. You should probably read at least a synopsis before watching something.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Curious, which animes aren't aimed at young adults?
by Rodriguezpresto1 week ago
Berserk, Edgerunners, Hellsing, Monster, Psycho Pass, Paranoia Agent are some
by Anonymous1 week ago
I'll add: Vinland Saga OddTaxi Vivy Flourite Eye's Song Violet Evergarden 86 Megalo Box 91 Days Frieren Beyond Journey's End Legend of the Galactic Heroes I'm not saying try all of these, but you can pick any one of them and find a really good show that isn't guilty of any of the faults you mentioned, OP.
by Buddyvandervort1 week ago
Paranoia Agent is really good.
by Anonymous1 week ago
And to be fair. For some of the shows that are aimed at a younger audience, not all of it has such one dimensional characters like Shounen Shows. I call those "Starterpack" shows or "Mainstream" for a reason. You don't even need adult themes to be serious. Look at Sound!Euphonium or other stuff by Kyotoanimations for example.
by Alana331 week ago
Full Metal Alchemist: Brotherhood I haven't seen most of the other ones, but Op is definitely not gonna like this one
by Anonymous1 week ago
It's a pretty common sentiment in the anime community it's that Fullmetal Alchemist Brotherhood is like the best "starter anime" because it has a handful of anime tropes without being "too much". First and foremost the story is very mature, but it does have a few hints of anime humor. There's also 0 weird fanservice. If you're going to give anything one more try, watch FMAB. It won't make you like anything else but it should help you connect to your friends a bit.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I'd say it's got more to do with having some character or storyline that covers the vast majority of things to relate/connect to and everything it does it does well. Nothing about it is a knockout 10/10 but everything is consistently very solid
by EmotionalMidnight9871 week ago
Also, kinda funny how the show itself has a "go big or go home" introduction. If you're not hooked by dog-daughter, then it ain't for you.
by Stephonschiller1 week ago
Exactly, it's a show that has a little something for everyone so it covers a wide arrange of audiences.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I have tried many different flavors of anime Proceeds to cite only anime of the same genre with the exception of Death Note and Sailor Moon. Not every medium is for every one and it's perfectly valid to dislike anime but this is the same thing as saying that literature sucks after reading Twilight, Divergent, Maze Runner and Hunger Games
by dayton381 week ago
Even Death Note and Sailor Moon are shonen.
by jaydon991 week ago
Technically sailor moon is shoujo
by EmotionalMidnight9871 week ago
It's kinda designed for the end stage of young boys, 12-15 year olds. I don't think there was any *real violence in the show, almost all of it was either off screen or heart attacks
by Anonymous1 week ago
Not necessarily the violence, but other aspects of the series. It's not something I would've imagined be for a "shonen" demographic.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I mean…..Naruto had a shapeshifting snake man who took over the body of a woman, who then tore her face off, and bit a kid on the neck
by Anonymous1 week ago
I mean, it does follow the exploits of a high school student.
by Stephonschiller1 week ago
Senior highschooler who graduates early into the series, but I get what you mean.
by Anonymous1 week ago
That makes a lot of sense—thank you!
by Budget_Yam_43001 week ago
Which animes are complex and interesting and made for adults?
by Rodriguezpresto1 week ago
You'd want to search for things under the Seinen or Josei tags as those are series aimed at adult men and women respectively. Things like Berserk, Monster, Pluto, 20th Century Boy, Kedamonotachi no Jikan, Concubine Walkthrough among others
by EmotionalMidnight9871 week ago
Evangelion?
by LimitApprehensive1 week ago
Madoka magica
by Anonymous1 week ago
Link Click, Oshi No Ko, Maquia... to add a few more to the rather endless list
by Alana331 week ago
rec, saikano, Texhnolyze, ghost hound, the sky crawlers, haibane remmei, Neia_7, elfen lied, sound of the sky, mushishi, serial experiments lain,
by Vast-Pattern55951 week ago
Not every medium is for everyone
by Anonymous1 week ago
That's what I'm saying haha
by Budget_Yam_43001 week ago
Try samurai champloo
by Anonymous1 week ago
mostly old iconic shows and shounen. "I tried many different flavors or anime". You didn't really. Most of these fall under a single genre.
by Alana331 week ago
Maybe try anime aimed at the mature market instead of kids shows, or the classics (Akira, Guyver, Monster City, Ninja Scroll, Dominion Tank Police, Cowboy Bebop etc.)
by Anonymous1 week ago
I gave some Cowboy Bee Bop a shot. Was better but not my thing. I have seen and do like Akira quite a bit.
by Budget_Yam_43001 week ago
I'm very fussy with the anime I watch, apart from Ghibli I can't stand the films/shows you listed, not for everyone I guess!
by Anonymous1 week ago
I think a lot of people are wasting a lot of time here. You say anime is too simple yet Cowboy Bebop that you spell in a "funny" way, was "not your thing". You are just here to provoke.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Watch the entirety of cowboy bebop. It's a slowburn but it's really damn good.
by colton471 week ago
Your name is trash, A silent voice is better.
by colton471 week ago
Bee Bop never hooked me, either. Samurai Shamploo, tho? Loved everything about it. The soundtrack alone is incredible and worth giving a listen to if the show doesn't grab you.
by Stephonschiller1 week ago
I'm with you on most of that, but why would you recommend Tank Police and not Ghost in the Shell? Or at least Appleseed?
by Ashamed_You73631 week ago
Lol i just meant because they're all based on Shirow Masamune comics. Of the three, it's the last one i'd recommend to convince someone of the artistic/entertainment merits of anime.
by Ashamed_You73631 week ago
A lot of the anime you mentioned are aimed at kids, so getting into them as an adult will not be as enjoyable. The dragonball series is my favourite anime but if I was introduced to it now and not at 6 I probably wouldn't care for it as much.
by Anonymous1 week ago
saying that anime sucks is like saying that tea sucks. you just have to find the right one every anime is different and there are many different kinds of animes
by javontehoppe1 week ago
Chainsaw main actually uses one of the common anime tropes, which is the "perverted" mentality of the main character. Imo it takes an existing trope and dials it to 100. Not saying it's but it gets a bit much. Like damn Denji, chill!
by Anonymous1 week ago
Him having that mentality is kind of the point; it's there so it can quite quickly be shattered. Have you read the manga?
by Thompsonelena1 week ago
Please watch Monster, it is a mystery serial killer anime that doesn't "feel" like an anime because it is more for an adult audience.
by Mysterious-Frame-7431 week ago
This is always my first recommendation. It could easily be turned into a live action show and you wouldn't be able to tell it was originally anime.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I wouldn't say either is full of tropes of standard shonen like the OP mentions so even if they are by definition I wouldn't really consider them true shonen
by Anonymous1 week ago
My guess is you like more cerebral fare, which Ghibli tends to be. I don't much care for Ghibli, for probably the exact reasons you enjoy it. Frieren would probably be one that you could engage with.
by reaganjacobi1 week ago
Some people can't get past the cultural differences but I honestly don't understand. It's like saying "movies suck", there's so much variety in genre and style that a blanket "this medium sucks" sounds so weird to me
by anthony371 week ago
Try the movie Akira. All of Satoshi Kon's movies, too.
by Elisekris1 week ago
Everything you've watched is aimed at children/young teens. If you really want to give the media a chance, I recommend looking for more mature series, or at least non action focused series.
by Brekketheresa1 week ago
try out FLCL only 6 short episodes and it's my favorite of all time. it's weird and there's definitely a lot of fan service but it's so good. it's such a vibe, the colors, the setting, the music all come together perfectly to create a wholly unique experience. and if u hate it, it's only like 3 hours of show.
by Anonymous1 week ago
…. You say you like Studio Ghibli, then you follow it up with "non Ghibli animes" that are all shonen. Of course they aren't going to compare.
by jaydon991 week ago
I agree. Anime blows
by Asleep-Tour1 week ago
Maybe you just don't like the Shonen genre. I'm only saying that because the ones you listed are all pretty standard shonen action anime with the exception of sailor moon. What is it about Ghibli movies that you like?
by Anonymous1 week ago
I love how grey things are. Princess Mononoke is a great example. The bad guys and the good guys motivations are fully fleshed out and when you're done watching, you think about it for a while after.
by Budget_Yam_43001 week ago
Maybe try looking into different genres, some of my favorites that don't fit into the shonen genre are Wolf Children and A Silent Voice due to how they focus character development and story telling.
by Anonymous1 week ago
The only anime I've liked is Ninja Scroll (1993) and Berserk (1997). The rest seems poorly paced, cringy or low stakes when no one ever dies.
by marvinclyde1 week ago
I loved Berserk.
by Anonymous1 week ago
You have mostly watched broadcast action anime directed at children. There were a lot of anime that were either theatrical features or went straight to VHS in the 80s and 90s that still aren't for everyone but would at least explain why so many 40 year old men are into anime.
by Ashamed_You73631 week ago
Dude went for the lowest hanging fruit there is.
by Anonymous1 week ago
🤣🤣🤣🤣 This is like saying "I don't like rap because all the mainstream rap sucks"
by Legal_Painter27901 week ago
Maybe try Akira, Trigun, or Fullmetal Alchemist: Brotherhood are titles that might suit your taste as most the shows you listed are targeted towards kids
by birdie091 week ago
Sounds like you've mostly watched Shounens, which are literally for young boys Try some other genres (Seinen is the more adult version of Shounen) There's also all the other genres (horror, action, etc) It's hard to recommend something without knowing what you'd like
by Anonymous1 week ago
I mean, I feel it anime as a medium is too broad to just say it outright sucks. The anime you listed also all fall into very similar categories, which may be why they exhibit similar problems. I won't suggest broadening your search, because if you've been trying and it hasn't been working so far then you shouldn't force yourself to try harder… Though I would suggest just keeping an open mind in the future, because as evident by your appreciation for the m,lol,mhnhfvbl
by Anonymous1 week ago
Watch. Vinland saga
by Familiar-Match72341 week ago
Looks like 90% of what you watched is shonen. Which is often the definition of most of your complaints. Good chance you just do like anime tho.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I don't think a visual medium can be bad, like you wouldn't say that live action films are bad, or that paintings are bad
by Anonymous1 week ago
most anime are rather mediocre nowadays, there's like at most one good anime per year, its a pain waiting for weekly releases, u cant binge watch, might as well hold it off and go elsewhere first.
by Gpacocha1 week ago
The true response is that you just haven't found the right shows for you. Anime is varied enough that there is a show for everybody. Now, if you tried a few, there isn't really much reason to keep trying until you find the show you like. But it sounds like your issues are with the shows and some common tropes, rather than the medium itself
by Anonymous1 week ago
You're picking poorly. Just watch death note, its good and it doesn't have the usual anime tropes that are annoying to non anime watchers. Its also paced similarly to american tv shows. If you want some middleground i'd recommend hunter x hunter.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I haven't liked a lot of the anime I've seen, including the Ghibli stuff, but the movies from Satoshi Kon and Makoto Shinkai are pretty amazing.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Well most of the ones you watched are for kids so. Except JoJo, If you didn't understand the style of JoJo than that's just on you
by Anonymous1 week ago
Soooo fetish specific. You do you.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Absolutely agree!
by Old-Relationship48271 week ago
Have you seen Blue Eye Samurai? I agree most anime sucks. But this is so different than most of them.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Take a shot on Cowboy Bebop!
by Useful-Job-97231 week ago
Anime sucks... For you
by Tricky-Award1 week ago
You've basically only tried shonnen anime. It's like saying movies are bad because you hate action movies. Check out some slice of life, comedy, romance, or horror. Check out anime aimed at an older audience with more mature themes.
by raquelschuppe1 week ago
I'll give you some anime suggestions that are for adults. Monster - a bit old but it's mainly drama. Kaiji - it's about gambling. If you don't like these 2 even a lil bit. Then you actually have something against anime lol It's cool tho. Btw try to watch it with someone it's more fun. Also, don't watch anything in general just to criticizes them. I used to do that and it ruined everything.
by ProfileCool1 week ago
Surprised no one has mentioned Parasyte
by Anonymous1 week ago
Just watch "monster".
by dejuangutmann1 week ago
My favorite is Soul Eaters—it's so goofy/bizarre/off the wall.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Try makoto shinkai
by charlesschultz1 week ago
Anime is objectively terrible
by Few-Palpitation-95041 week ago
Watch AOT
by Anonymous1 week ago
Fair. Not for everyone. I can't get into the vast majority of anime cause I can't take it as serious. I love action anime cause it feels like comic books but good and not mcu or dcu
by Familiar_Argument9051 week ago
Jojo is an extremely niche and veteran anime watcher stuff. Sailor moon is shoujo where the target audience is teenage girls. The rest you saw are shounen anime where the target audience is teenage boys.
by colton471 week ago
Those are all shounen/shoujo aside from Death Note and Jojos. I'd look into some seinen as I tend to prefer those. Fullmetal Alchemist Broetherhood is also very, *very* good. Some suggestions - Mushi-Shi Ergo Proxy Wolf's Rain Casshern Sins Monster Evangelion Devilman: Crybaby Castlevania Honorable mentions for the Claymore and Berserk manga (not anime tho theyre awful)
by Acrobatic-Meal41771 week ago
Feel free to not watch it
by Anonymous1 week ago
Try Madoka Magica, it might seem childish at first but trust me it's not
by Anonymous1 week ago
I'm also not a big fan of Anime but Girls Und Panzers is the only I would watch because I like tanks to begin with
by Anonymous1 week ago
LOL... STUDIO GHIBLI FTW! I've watched a LOT of anime and it's just getting better and better. I loved Chainsaw Man last year. Undead Unlucky and right now my favourite flavour is Delicious in Dungeon. Keep it coming studios.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Lifelong artist here. People have been trying to get me to embrace anime for almost my entire life. I've tried with genuine earnestness. I just don't get the appeal. I am impressed by the quality of the background imagery, but that's it. If you like it, I'm happy for you. I'm with you, OP. Anime is not for me.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Maybe watch Cowboy Bebop, or Akira? Or Cyberpunk: Edgerunners? They're less childish, more mature.
by SuchMenu1 week ago
I like 40 min anime recaps more than actual long ass series.
by Anonymous1 week ago
OP in my eyes, you already give anime a fair shake. Like others have said, the anime you listed is targeted at a younger demographic, but these should have gotten you curious to look for more adult theme anime. Anime is not for everyone.
by BalanceUpset6921 week ago
have you watched cowboy bebop
by AccordingJello1 week ago
Berserk?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Years ago in high school my friend and I were watching tv when Dragonball Z came on. We started laughing at it and making fun of it and hours later we were like, "oh my god I think Gohon is about to go Super Saiyan!"
by Caterina051 week ago
Try getting into seinen
by Donnellylaury1 week ago
For me it's how over dramatic it is. Some of the scenes are straight outta a teenagers head on drama.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Looks like you watched one genre outside of Ghibli (shounen, arguably seinen for JoJo and Death Note). Try some slice of life, or some romance, or some drama, or some thriller.
by Ryleekuhn1 week ago
Bro you've watched 8 animes, you can't say all anime sucks based on such a laughably small sample size. Anime is like movies or music. You don't hate anime. You just haven't found the stuff that appeals to you yet.
by Anonymous1 week ago
You might like some 90s stuff like cowboy bebop, but also you might just not like anime and that's cool too
by Anonymous1 week ago
Not unpopular to me. I hate it too. The art style hurts my eyes, the way they move, oy
by Anonymous1 week ago
To this point, I would say that anime used to look/move a lot better before it was made entirely in a computer.
by Ashamed_You73631 week ago
Maybe I should try an older one. Any recommendations?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Thanks so much. I will see if I can find them.
by Anonymous1 week ago
yes their color grading sucks. i dont like watching their 2fps animation with cringe mannerisms.
by Anonymous1 week ago
The only one I enjoyed was Blue Eyed Samurai. Nothing since can compare. Tried watching others, found most very boring.
by EbbAntique70771 week ago
While it takes after a lot of Japanese culture, it's not an anime. Wasn't made in Japan. Really good show though.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Thank you, good to know.
by EbbAntique70771 week ago
Agreed. Always surprised by how many 40 year old men watch anime and collect Funko Pops.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Funko pops are a plague on society
by Vast-Pattern55951 week ago
Why would that be surprising?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Well does it suck or is it not up your alley, pick one. One is an unpopular opinion that will get you torn to shreds, the other is not an unpopular opinion at all.
by Anonymous1 week ago
That's the same thing dude lol
by Budget_Yam_43001 week ago
I got super into Bleach. Loved it. But then never really watched any other anime. Might be worth a shot!
by Anonymous1 week ago
It is not for every one. I personally love it and it is my favorite thing in the world. Anime and manga to be exact but to each their own.
by Camden261 week ago
According to what you say you only watched shonen anime. The animes you saw are about fighting and then training to fight harder. try to see your name or a silent voice.
by ryannrosenbaum1 week ago
Check out Berserk 1997. That might change your mind…
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