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People wanna be attractive for other people not for themselves, amirite?
by Anonymous1 week ago
I think it's more so for other people than anything else of course we wanna think we look good but doesn't matter how much YOU think you look good if everyone around you thinks you're ugly that's gonna affect you period. Even if some people don't wanna admit that
by Anonymous1 week ago
So what you're saying is if you're ugly, then you shouldn't even try to look presentable because you're ugly?
by Katharina931 week ago
Good explanation I started wearing makeup right before the pandemic. It was very much for me and not others. I got complimented on the blue lipstick I wore every time I went out. That felt nice, even though it wasn't for them.
by Anonymous1 week ago
You can also just be doing it for yourself lmao Like I love how my makeup and fits make me look. They aren't for dudes to gawk at and women to compliment lmao
by Anonymous1 week ago
Their confidence, at being seen as attractive by other people. I don't think many people are so arrogant that they assume they're the only individuals people are trying to impress.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I want to be attractive so I have something to turn me on while I jerk off in front of the mirror in my bathroom
by Anonymous1 week ago
Billie is that you?
by Anonymous1 week ago
This guy gets it!
by Rich-Aide-50551 week ago
Nah dude when I wear a suit, I feel damn good even when no one is around to appreciate it Of course we want to look good for others, but it's all for naught if you don't think you look good first.
by ClickOk95551 week ago
I love an excuse to put on a suit, and find it amusing how differently people respond to me in public compared to when I'm wearing carhartts, a camo hoodie, and a ball cap.
by Berta581 week ago
I think op means putting on a ton of makeup and possibly uncomfortable clothing for the sake of being attractive, not necessarily hygiene and health related things
by FixMiserable1 week ago
But what is the difference between wanting to look good and wanting to feel good? If I have pride in my appearance, I don't want to leave the house looking a certain way.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Well for example, in a picture, nobody would be able to tell if your breath smelled or not, but it still makes you feel good, so you continue to do it. Same with painting your toenails if you never wear open-toed shoes-- it makes you feel a bit nicer and you enjoy looking at them, but nobody else will ever see it. If you think you look good, it's probably because you are aware of your attractiveness. That's usually the reason why people wear revealing clothes at bars or clubs or something; they know they look good and they want to flaunt it off. So I think that feeling good = internal personal pleasure (generally), and looking good = external validation that makes you feel better about yourself
by FixMiserable1 week ago
if your expectation of looking good matches up with healthy habits, that's great but some people do very unhealthy things because they think it makes them look good
by Anonymous1 week ago
False
by Substantial_Guide_801 week ago
You do that cause you're weird has nothing to do with trying to be attractive l
by Anonymous1 week ago
I work all day looking plain and come home where I actually get the chance to actually clean up and attempt to look pretty. So are you saying it's not only weird when I do it in private but also attention seeking when it's public? Can't win at anything lol
by Anonymous1 week ago
Ah, so the people who don't fit in your little world view are weirdos?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Certainty of why other folk do things is a sure sign of faulty reasoning.
by Funny_Sheepherder1581 week ago
What if they go out by themselves or stay at home?
by Anonymous1 week ago
They're going out around other people and if they stay at home then they aren't dressing up nice
by Anonymous1 week ago
There are a ton of people who dress up at home lol. Mostly because they enjoy the way they look when they dress up/put on makeup and it makes them feel more like themselves, but they feel it won't go over well in public, so they stay home and chill.
by Legitimate_Hand48271 week ago
Honestly about a good 92% of people I know when they home alone they bum out.
by Anonymous1 week ago
No there are not a ton of these people why are you lying? Pure copium bruh
by Anonymous1 week ago
So trans women who aren't out yet don't count? Or women who wear lingerie at home alone to feel sexy? Or a man who gets excited by wearing women's clothing alone? Or a man who loves the way he looks in makeup but knows it's not socially acceptable where he lives? Or furries who don't feel comfortable wearing their fur suit in public?
by Legitimate_Hand48271 week ago
There really are a lot of people who do this. Why is this something you're having a hard time believing? I get dressed up, do my hair, do my makeup and then go sit on my couch and watch a movie a lot. It makes me feel good. If I'm feeling down it makes me feel better.
by Landen041 week ago
I do that a lot π§π½ββοΈ
by Anonymous1 week ago
Some people do. Lots of people put on make up or wear clothes that make them feel nice.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Okay bud keep fooling yourself lmao
by Anonymous1 week ago
Let's limit it to make up. Lots of people wear make up at home. Are they doing it for other people then?
by Anonymous1 week ago
I dress nice when I stay at home.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Me too, and I also put on makeup. I feel better and more like myself when I groom myself and don't just wear slobby clothes all the time.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I dress up nice mostly at home when I'm not going out, but I bet you'll say I'm a weirdo
by Anonymous1 week ago
It may be hard for people who base their personality around what other people think to understand. But no, not everyone wants to be attractive for other people
by Anonymous1 week ago
Attraction requires another person lol.
by Anonymous1 week ago
You can not tell people how they feel or what they want to be. That is literally not how it works.
by Vmonahan1 week ago
A person can also lie about how they feel or what they want, or not even known. That is how it works.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Im a guy and into fashion, I also wear nail polish and at times dress more "feminine," this is what I consider dressing attractive for me. My fits don't always hit with the people I'm around, I don't wear nail polish to be attractive, that would be a poor way to be attractive. I don't do things with for the approval of others.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Just because you do doesn't mean everyone does
by Anonymous1 week ago
For real. My toenails are always painted, though I live alone and nobody can see them. I just like walking around my apartment barefoot and feeling pretty. It's called self-care. Also, what's wrong about feeling attractive and confident on a date or event?
by Medical_Support1 week ago
What's wrong with that?
by Agile_Building49751 week ago
i guess, but people want to be attractive to others for themselves. People are self-motivated.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Sometimes making yourself "look better" or putting effort into your appearance is beneficial to a person self esteem regardless of outside validation. Putting effort into your appearance has shown to improve self esteem. I know that on days where I don't just stay in my pj's and actually plan an outfit or put on makeup and do my hair, I feel more motivated to get tasks done and take care of myself. I do partially agree that maybe 60-70% of effort into one's appearance is for external validation but what's wrong with that? Is it such a crime to want ppl to like you or the way that you look? I get what you're trying to say (and what I've heard many other ppl say) is that they get mad at ppl who claim to wear makeup and get dressed up for themself and for no one else but SOMETIMES it is truly just for themselves.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I'm a stay at home mom, I hardly leave the house or see people. I dress nice and do my make up everyday, for myself because I like it
by Anonymous1 week ago
Ever heard of self esteem?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Built off looking good to others..
by Anonymous1 week ago
Yes but what is self esteem based on? What other people think of you is very important to most. Even more important than health in many cases
by denesikmaci1 week ago
It's true when I look cute and put makeup on to be at home alone all day, no selfies, it's obviously for my cats.
by Sweet_Film_71201 week ago
I'm low key jealous of you cat people, I'm allergic to them.
by Jwitting1 week ago
It's amazing to me that there are some people that have this magic ability to know the intentions everyone has. Truly, you must be psychic or something. Wow. You know for sure that everyone feels this way?
by Gerda901 week ago
You can make your own puzzles!
by Gerda901 week ago
i don't need to look attractive for other people. i have a partner who loves me and thinks im attractive as i am. I don't feel attractive, regardless of what other people say, so i want to look better so i don't feel disgusted with myself every time i look in the mirror
by Anonymous1 week ago
I am awful at seduction anyways so I'm not taking care of my looks for the ladies. I just don't want to be grossed out by what I see in the mirror.
by Smooth_Window1 week ago
I put on makeup on days I'm staying home and doing absolutely nothing for fun. How is this for other ppl?
by Anonymous1 week ago
True to a point, I still want to be able to walk by a mirror and not be repulsed by the reflection
by Anonymous1 week ago
People treat you better when you're good looking. Who wants to be ugly in this world?
by Anonymous1 week ago
This is a low key pathetic opinion, ngl
by Anonymous1 week ago
Its more like 50|50.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Nah like 90/10
by Anonymous1 week ago
No way bro. I dont give a f if i look good to some randoms or anyone for that matter except people i have romantic connections with or if i go to meet some important people. Thats called leaving a good impression and that works in your favor. Other than that i couldnt care less what you think, but still dress well just because thats what i like to do and thats my style being dressed nicely and that makes me feel fresh and confident.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Do this means that you think that people who don't care what others think would prefer to be unattractive?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Not me. I hate how I look and at nearly 47 have never had a girlfriend because I'm disgusted by my appearance and don't want someone who actually thinks I look good. That's me in the hat in my profile pic. Whenever I dated, everyone noticed what I hate about me (6'3", bald, broad shoulders) and I wish I could hide it. I'd rather be alone than date someone who preferred a big guy.
by Anonymous1 week ago
But you don't want to be attractive, so it doesn't apply to you.
by Anonymous1 week ago
OP clearly only has women in mind so I'd assume he believes you
by Rkoelpin1 week ago
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by Anonymous1 week ago
There's a simple test for this. would you do it if you were alone with no one to see you?. Even during covid I kept my hair short and my beard trimmed, a bit longer and whenever I walked past a mirror I felt I needed to. I wear ragged ass clothes at home, I wear better clothes when I go outside. I clearly dress better for others. I didnt die by admitting it.
by Hunterlangworth1 week ago
You've got it twisted. People want to look attractive to other people FOR THEMSELVES. they're doing it so other people look at them so they can enjoy that feeling.
by Anonymous1 week ago
No, I do it to not look like a homeless person to get shoo-ed away from cafes and restaurants, because they think I'm about to start patronizing customers for change.
by Kind_Concentrate_1491 week ago
I'm an aromantic agoraphobe. I still care about what I look like and enjoy dressing well π€·ββοΈ
by Fhomenick1 week ago
Is that unpopular?
by Anonymous1 week ago
Not everyone's self esteem and locus of identity is based on others
by Anonymous1 week ago
I don't think it is as black and white as you make out. Also, when people say they are doing it for themselves, they usually mean that they are not trying to attract someone, not that they don't want to be seen as attractive. When I'm with my husband in the house I will wear comfortable clothes. When I go out to girls' nights at my friend's house, I will dress up. As a heterosexual woman, it is clearly not to attract anyone, but I do like the positive affirmations about how I look. When women say they are doing it for themselves, I think they usually mean I'm not doing it to attract someone. They are still doing it to appear attractive.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Disagree. Sometimes I put on makeup just so that when I do my homework I don't give up, lie down, and ruin all my hard work
by zora481 week ago
I dress way sexier in my house by myself than I do in front of other people.
by Visible_Bridge1 week ago
I basically agree. I find it odd to insist that you'd make as much effort if no-one was around to see it. I know in covid some people said they still dressed presentably to retain a sense of normalcy but I can't imagine that was more than a slim minority.
by Frederickdenesi1 week ago
Great counter argument smart guy
by Anonymous1 week ago
Uh huh sure lmao
by Anonymous1 week ago
I gave you a good counter point because I'm a smart guy, but go ahead and project your own weakness and insecurities on to others, because that's what everyone does when they care to much about other's opinions
by AfraidTooth1 week ago
"Because I'm a smart guy" wow I really hope you said that ironically cause if not you are truly pathetic lmao,also your counter argument was idealistic I'm talking about reality,aka how people actually think and what they actually do
by Anonymous1 week ago
Sure bud keep fooling yourself lol
by Anonymous1 week ago
Just bc you think everyone else cares about ppls opinions, doesn't make it true. If I want to go to school in a full face of makeup and nice clothes, I will. If the very next day I want to go in my sweats, no makeup, and dirty hair, I will. Some ppl really just don't care what strangers or even friends think of them. If my friends care enough to ask me to change, I would distance myself. What you are saying is that everyone is shallow and values looking good to everyone else rather than be true to themselves.
by Anonymous1 week ago
I don't wear a pound of makeup and cute clothes to be attractive, I wear a pound of makeup and cute clothes so my girl friends will give me compliments and we have something fun to talk about. Guys can't even tell the difference between makeup looks and stylish outfits, if I wanted guys to think I was attractive I would dress like a cheap hooker
by Anonymous1 week ago
You used the word attractive though, I don't want my girl friends to be attracted to me because I'm not a lesbian
by Anonymous1 week ago
adjective (of a thing) pleasing or appealing to the senses. "an attractive home" (of a person) appealing to look at; sexually alluring. "an attractive, charismatic man" Am I a person or a thing?
by Anonymous1 week ago
I mean yeah pretty much. When you're talking about people, attraction almost always means sexual attraction. Imagine how awkward it would be to say "I'm so attracted to my grandma." If I wanted to indicate platonic appreciation of beauty, instead I'd say "I think my grandma is so beautiful."
by Anonymous1 week ago
So in other words yes you can so what's your point? Seems like you're looking for reasons to argue
by Anonymous1 week ago
There's no such thing as being attractive for yourself. Definitionally, "attractive" means "to other people." It makes you feel good to know other people think you look hot.
by Rude-Supermarket-4631 week ago
If you want to project your own insecurities onto everyone else I guess you're allowed to do that.
by korbin611 week ago
Duh Doyeee doyle. But life is smoother when you're considered attractive.
by Dickiellen1 week ago
I don't have eyeballs outside of my own head where I can view myself from a third person perspective. What does doing it for yourself even mean? I wouldn't dress up to go to bed and sleep in those clothes, I only wear them in circumstances where other people can view them. If it makes you more confident it's because you think people will perceive you differently for wearing, it literally changes nothing from my own perspective.
by Anonymous1 week ago
Of course. Although I would say it's also a matter of status.
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