+23 It's weird to think that pigeons existed before big cities, they lived in the forest and ate bugs instead of garbage. amirite?

by Outside_Remove5288 3 weeks ago

Rocky cliffs, actually. And they would forage for the wild ancestor of the french fry. Pigeons are actually feral rock doves that we domesticated a couple thousand years ago.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Kind of sad we've abandoned them. We used to build little houses for them and steal their eggs. Now they live on the streets and have to care for their eggs.

by sondricka 3 weeks ago

Their eggs are still being stolen (and replaced by duds) but unfortunately just in an attempt to control their population. And it's really surprising how much the trust towards humans is built into them even today. You can literally re-domesticate a feral pigeon by feeding it and leaving the window open until it knows you. Preferably a couple. They'll just roll with it and become your pets. They sit on your finger, eat from your hand and everything.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

This person has fed several pigeons before

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Guilty as charged lol. I currently have five that hang around my window all day. One of them is not scared of me whatsoever (nor mine or the neighbors cat) has repeatedly entered my home without my knowledge and was very reluctant to leave each time so I guess you could call that one semi feral at this point. Here's some pics of the vermin and the neighbors cat. It's like being in a pest themed Disney movie. Oh and if anyone thinks about doing this bear in mind that they'll alert you to their hunger by knocking on the window with their beaks and they rise with the sun so you will too. Other than that they're literally perfect.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

That's cute AF

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

You can't redomesticate a domesticated species, it would have to evolve into a wild species to loose its domestication. Taming a feral pigeon is no different to taking in a nervous street dog and teaching them not to fear humans.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Are you Mike Tyson 🧐

by Weary-Macaron-5696 3 weeks ago

How are there so many of them when they suck so much at nesting?

by kdare 3 weeks ago

They guard the egg. They barf in the baby. There's millions of them. They do alright. Their cousin probably lived if they didn't make it. Plus they seem to be monogamous, so they'll get to try again next time.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

For as much as their nests suck, they're hard to get to, pidgeons don't nest in trees but prefer crevices or overhangs, you'll find them under bridges or overpasses and cats don't go there as often. Added to that those man made structures are placed well and are usually quite sturdy, so even if your nest is two mars bar wrappers, that egg ain't going anywhere.

by Same_Song_1332 3 weeks ago

Sex

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Nice

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Ikr?

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Stupid dove don't even know it's a seagull. I don't think we can explain trains to that guy.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Potatoes?

by AloneBanana7856 3 weeks ago

no, salt and oil

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

And the french fry bean.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Boil 'em, mash 'em, stick 'em in a stew.

by Lsteuber 3 weeks ago

Frankish Fries Never cared for them

by Fun-Measurement7706 3 weeks ago

False. Pigeons didn't exist until they built the first Target parking lot.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Target specifically?

by Braynor 3 weeks ago

How else were they gonna know where to land?

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Here the seagulls own the Target parking lot. Not even the Target near Lake Michigan, the one like 10 miles inland.

by Top_Neighborhood8616 3 weeks ago

Seagulls, like some birds, have wings, so they can leave the water easily. So 10 miles is not that surprising. But where I live, they fly to McDonald's parking lot. What do they eat in a Target's parking lot?

by Braynor 3 weeks ago

The garbage from the Burger King dumpster.

by Top_Neighborhood8616 3 weeks ago

This

by TechnicianMain7730 3 weeks ago

Wait until you find out about rats and mice

by Bailee40 3 weeks ago

Hamsters are more impressive honestly. They're just native to like Syria.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

The best ones come from Siberia.

by Various-Art-2839 3 weeks ago

No no. Is hamsta. Siberian hamsta

by Various-Art-2839 3 weeks ago

Filigree!

by Green_Bend 3 weeks ago

What about rats and mice 🤔 Did humans breed them or something? Are the little hamsters a human breeding experiment, like pugs? Hamsters don't seem too bright and I think they can die if they get cold, like they go into a state of torpor and just die, so… they are strange little creatures

by carol67 3 weeks ago

Hamsters come from the Steppe of Russia and Mongolia, they can handle the cold, we (human) just don't tend to give them the burrowing material in the tanks we keep them in. They'll dig a cosy little burrow and make a nest if you give them the materials to do it, but don't expect to see them running in a wheel if you do, they'd much rather be nice and warm until dinner time

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

We actually bred them to be eaten. Then, the fad died and they were released.

by Bogisichblanca 3 weeks ago

They were also bred as Homing Pigeons to deliver messages starting around 3000-5000 years ago.

by Beneficial-East 3 weeks ago

That's the main contributor to feral pigeons today

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Not sure I believe this. How do you train a pigeon where to go?

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

You dont train them to go other places, they have a natural instinct to go home. So say you have a bunch of messenger pigeons raised in Rome, you then give them to delegates that are sent out to other places like Constantinople, Carthage, Gaul or wherever. Then when you need to send a message to Rome you grab a pigeon from Rome and it'll fly home with it. This has been around for millenia

by Parkerwinfield 3 weeks ago

So did the Romans have a bunch of guys throwing out food for them in all the parks along the way back to Rome? Seems like a lot of trouble when most things can be solved by a quick text message.

by geobahringer 3 weeks ago

Pre-radio they were critical for getting messages sent in the battlefield to HQ. There are birds that have gotten medals for getting messages home under fire or injured. .... Not that the bird necessarily understood that. They're a smart but stupid bird. Interesting point, carrier pigeon has also been used to transport flash drives full of data in some very poor infrastructure areas of Africa. More of a scathing demonstration of how slow the Internet is than anything else, as it had higher bandwidth than the regular lines.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Okay, assuming you're not trolling. This was two thousand years before the invetion of the mobile phone. And no they didn't have people feeding them, the pigeons found their own food on the way.

by Parkerwinfield 3 weeks ago

Google it. It only works one way. "Home"ing pigeons. They use earth's magnetic field, sight, smell, hearing....pigeons were originally bred to be pets but have now been discarded by most of humanity

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

I think some people do still eat them in cities.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Wait, we bred hamsters to be eaten? As what, appetizers? Like, hamster filets on ritz crackers?

by Green_Bend 3 weeks ago

Do you think the most tender cut off a hamster is between the shoulder blades too?

by Bogisichblanca 3 weeks ago

Breaks out x-acto knife and large magnifying glass…

by Green_Bend 3 weeks ago

donkey Kong music intensifies

by Bogisichblanca 3 weeks ago

It's the same with humans though…

by OkOne159 3 weeks ago

Mammals

by Oweissnat 3 weeks ago

The older pigeons were made of sterner stuff, and were much better at dive bombing bald men, children, and anything edible left outside.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Actually not so much, pigeons are one of the first animal we domesticed, so they lived with us. And when we found them useless we threw them out, it's why they live around humans to this day because they were taken care of for so long they don't know how to survive without us. It's really sad to think about, I didn't know we did the poor things so dirty and then act like they're the problem.

by sauerraegan 3 weeks ago

Dang… so the ol one footed pigeon hobbling around the parking lot is like a vagrant wondering why we've abandoned their species… "just a crumb from the loaf, please, sir… I'm so hungry" Human: "Bah! Get outta here you filthy flying rat!" Pigeon: "sigh I guess this puddle of oily water in the parking lot will have to do peck peck" Yeah that's pretty sad They're like an abandoned human creation. We made them and then abandoned them. That's like something out of a movie.

by carol67 3 weeks ago

Isn't that the plot of Frankenstein?

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Don't they thrive in big cities though?

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Just because they're able to survive in large numbers doesn't mean they have a high quality of life

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

How do you quantify a good life for a wild animal? Nature is brutal in general

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

So ... we should eat them again?

by geobahringer 3 weeks ago

We didn't just eat them, used them for messages and as pets, they bred fancy pigeons. Better than being abandoned with no survival skills and starving.

by sauerraegan 3 weeks ago

Why would you straight up lie? You can easily Google it. Dogs were the first

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

How are you so confidently incorrect? If you dont know about pigeons then just ask. It's not even mentioning pigeons at the animal part in your link lmfao I own pigeons and love them. They have been domesticated a very long time. More than most animals. But they were definitely not the very first

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

What is even more wild to me, is the loss of their cousin, the passenger pigeon. Billions of birds, potentially the most common bird in Eastern North america, disappeared in a few decades due to market hunting and the loss of the American chestnut.

by Longjumping_Data141 3 weeks ago

Also, they were brought to the USA as a food source

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

You have never seen a baby pigeon.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Rock doves. Lived in rocky areas... Still do.

by morissettedayna 3 weeks ago

Pigeons diet is seeds and veggies, not bugs and garbage. They don't eat bugs at all.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

They ate puzzi before we gave them the gift of our cuisine

by deven17 3 weeks ago

The difference between a pigeon and a dove is simply location.

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago

Wait until OP finds out what happened to passenger pigeons

by Anonymous 3 weeks ago