Isn't this the consensus?

by Anonymous 4 months ago

I didn't think so

by Empty-University 4 months ago

The movie is a bit clunky in the writing. Some of the dialogue is embarrassing too ("Will someone get this hot head out of here???") Ultimately though it's better than the average Marvel movie (maybe all of them). All the Tom Hardy scenes are pretty great too. I can't decide if Rises or Begins is better. The first half of Begins is good but it has a pretty basic super hero ending

by Anonymous 4 months ago

I have never heard of this Mr. Stroke.

by jpfeffer 4 months ago

My issue is that Banes one BIG thing is that he's super strong, and takes a toxin called Venom that basically turns him into a 10ft tall rage monster. You take that away and it's like his biggest thing is gone. The tactical military stuff is much more suited to Deathstroke. Basically a Batman anthesis

by Empty-University 4 months ago

So if someone went in, and dubbed in "Deathstroke" for every time someone said "Bane," you would no longer consider it the worst film in the trilogy, that's enough to fix it for you?

by margarete59 4 months ago

No there's definitely more changes that I would need to fix it. But that being said I would love that version. Just every Bane Dubbed over with a monotone DEATHSTROKE.

by Empty-University 4 months ago

I wonder if Bane would've been in it at all if Heath Ledger hadn't died and could come back as Joker. Or maybe there would've been a team up between them, although I doubt Joker would've appreciated Bane breaking Batman.

by Southern-Plastic3980 4 months ago

I didn't know it wasn't

by Empty-University 4 months ago

Who is Noland?

by amiya45 4 months ago

"Noland"

by parkerdonato 4 months ago

My bad, have a friend named Noland and I had that on my mind

by Empty-University 4 months ago

Thanks

by Empty-University 4 months ago

Is this even an unpopular opinion? There were too many stupid nonsensical scenes, the villains sucked, the ending was meh. The fighting scenes were hilarious at least.

by Anonymous 4 months ago

Anyone I've talked to said it was their favorite, I mean behind the dark night

by Empty-University 4 months ago

Deathstroke is a super soldier, he has powers. He passed powers on to his kids.

by Anonymous 4 months ago

Yeah, but it's a lot less of a stretch to take that away that taking Banes powers away completely

by Empty-University 4 months ago

I agree....dark knight was amazing...rises was boring...slow......full of lazy plot holes....did I say boring as hell

by Anonymous 4 months ago

it felt rushed and licked passion. it just felt like Tom Hardy was the only one that wanted to be there.

by Anonymous 4 months ago

None of the villains in the trilogy had super powers. I think introducing super powers would have robbed the trilogy of the theme that regular people can choose good or bad.

by Anonymous 4 months ago

Then why put a villain in that had powers when he has a lot of villains that don't?

by Empty-University 4 months ago

The D is silent.

by Anonymous 4 months ago

Honesty, I don't think any of the films are great. Nolan was going for a more ground realistic take on Batman. However, in a funny twist the films are anything but. The elements are too fantastical, the dialogue too unrealistic, and by the second film it mimics more of the comic books than whatever vision Nolan was going for. Ever since those films hit, people have been wanting a more and more of super realistic take on the character. However the last film in 2022 just highlighted the problems with that desire. Batman cannot function as a realistic character. Everything about him, his universe, and the characters that inhabit it, are too much in the realm of fantasy to be realistic. When you try to make the character realistic, the goofiness is just that more noticeable. Nolan tried this, and all I could do was laugh at the silly the dialogue, the behaviors of characters, and just how terrible Gotham must be if the the only guy who can fix it's problems is a billionaire in a cape. You may think Im bashing Batman here, but im not. Batman works when you don't try to make him realistic. It's easier to accept the logic of Batman's universe when you aren't trying to apply it to real life. This is one reason why Tim Burton's films succeed where Nolans fails. Where one film is indulging in the weirdness of Batman, the other is trying to pretend such a character could actually exist, and be taken seriously. Now, that's not to say a more serious take on the character cannot exist. Such a thing is possible. Just a very realistic take can't work when you introduce a deranged man spraying fear gas, a league of assassins, a mad clown, and a man with a serious case of steroid abuse, and insane man with a riddle fetish. Let's use Logan as a example here. It's a drama, and a more serious take of the character. Logan works because the film isn't trying to make a realistic Wolverine. It's making a drama using a comic character as the basis.

by Useful_Friend 4 months ago

"You think darkness is your ally , but you merely adopted the dark. I was born in it !"

by Anonymous 4 months ago

you can usually tell when a director just flat-out doesn't want to make a movie

by Human_Novel 4 months ago

My hot take is that it is the 2nd worst Batman movie of all time, with the first being the 2022 one

by Anonymous 4 months ago

What was your issue with the 2022 one?

by Empty-University 4 months ago