It's annoying how if 10 people are killed today christians just see it on the news and don't give a shit about their lives, while when 10 women decide to abort (and according to christians "kill their lives") they get mad about it and go to the streets to protest. They care...

But, there are already laws in place to protect normal people. :/ They're fighting for legislation. Duh?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Lol, so true.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

that's...not true at all. how do you know christians don't care about adult human life? because there's no protests? how exactly do you protest murder if it's already illegal? please at least think a little before you go about yelling accusations.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

My point was that if some person dies today for a reason they don't care about it, but if a woman wants to abort, they get much more annoyed than when they hear the news that some random person died.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

you're wrong. christians (real ones, anyway) care about all lives. that's why there are so many humanitarian organizations around the world, yes?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

A fetus IS a "real" life...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Shows how much OP cares.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

That is exactly what I thought!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

What do you mean we don't care about people who are killed?! That's a really stupid accusation! And yeah, I think abortion is wrong. Murder and abortion are both wrong, it's stupid that you think we favor one over the other!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Agreed.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

i'm a practicing christian and pro-choice.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

jesus said love everyone, especially those who are considered to be the least of us. and, contrary to popular belief, it IS possible to love both a struggling pregnant woman and her baby. you don't have to give up loving one for the sake of the other.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

abortion is wrong. unless you have been raped. otherwise, its just the result of a poor choice.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

what if the birth control failed and the pregnancy threatens the mothers life and has a low survival chance, anyway?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

you disgust me. christioans care about ALL lives and aborting babies is murder you idiot.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You don't even know how to spell your own religion. So, you have no room to call anyone an idiot, especially someone with a good point.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

this is stupid, just because someone has a typo doesn't mean they cant spell OR make them stupid...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

have you never heard of a typo? WOW. and no, you don't have a good point. REAL Christians care about ALL lives. Jesus healed lepers, cast out demons, and died and rose again for ALL people.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I'm an Atheist and I'm pro-abortion, but I still think this amirite is BS.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Ummm, that's not necessarily a Christian belief as much as it is a Liberal/Democratic belief. Sooo, long story short. Fuck off. Kay thanks.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Dumb-ass Christians. Go commit another genocide. -Holocaust -Crusades -Spanish Inquisition -Massacre of natives an all continents of Earth (Except Antarctica YET) -Enslavement of Africans Hundreds more. -Hundreds more.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I'll take on your first point awhile...the Christians did not start the Holocaust, this guy named Hitler started it, ever heard of him? And Christians aren't always perfect, but neither are atheist, or agnostics, or any other belief!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

So I guess what you are saying is that christians are to blame for everything? drugs, senseless murder and even domestic violence right. oh and terrorist attacks right. You're gonna come up with some BS to blame everything wrong about this world on the only people actually doing anything to fix it, not that it'll ever happen.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

tea@156978 (Anonymous): They never said any of those things. And saying christians are the only ones doing anything to fix it is stupid as fuck. The only christians you hear about are the ones who kill abortion doctors, forbid gays from getting married and having basic rights, forbid women from being equal, molesting little boys, and forcing their beliefs down other's throats. Or is that fixing the world?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

So true.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

dude. you're even less informed then the op. half of those things the christians actually fought AGAINST.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

your really stupid. Christians didn't cause the Holocaust, hitler did. He wasnt christian the massacre of natives was causes by disease,especially in america. The Crusades were to protect our faith (unless I'm thinking along a different line than you) and Antarctica has no people stupid! We enslaved Africa s because our ancestors had, and that's how we were raised, we didn't know it was wrong. We do now though. So go learn your history from a Christian and learn your facts before you start talking ou your butt, jerk

by Anonymous 14 years ago

WTF is OP thinking? Honestly who said Christians don't care when someone is murdered? Hell yeah, it breaks my heart to see any kind of death. Heres the thing though...murder is illegal, abortion is not, therefore we protest against abortion to make it illegal. Why is it that when a pregnant women is killed it can be counted as a double homicide, but if that same women had chosen to abort her baby, thats fine...you can't tell me thats right.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Ummm...the reason we don't strike against non-fetus deaths is because we can't exactly do anything to stop it. It doesn't mean we don't care. Abortion, on the other hand, hasn't even been made illegal, and is something we can fight and lessen. Also, most people who die had a chance to live. Aborted children? They don't even get their first breath, their first look at the world.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

abortion was illegal until the early 1970s. Women would have unsafe abortions in alleyways, throw themselves down stairs, insert a clothes hanger into their uterus, hit/punch/kick themselves in the stomach, etc etc. all to try to have an abortion. No matter what, whether it's legalized or not, women will have abortions. The question is, will we let everyone have the right to have a safe abortion or will women have to resort to physical, fatal harm to both mother and child to have an abortion?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

those things did happen (and they were terrible) but that was definitely not all cases. most women probably got underground abortions from doctors, who would probably be more careful lest the woman would get an infection which would lead to an investigation. so technically abortions were safer when thy were illegal.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

that is so stupid and untrue. The people who were giving abortions to women in the 1970s weren't even doctors. They were random people who had no experience. Many women tried to do it themselves, which led to thousands and thousands of women's deaths.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

THANK YOU. I could not have said it better.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

So they obviously didn't care much about the pain the baby inside them felt. Fetuses {a less human sounding word than baby to make it sound better when it comes to abortion...} feel pain. have you guys even seen an abortion and partial birth abortion? Modern day abortions hurt women too. Leads to depression, infertility, and infection. come on guys & gals, let's not make an innocent life pay for our reckless behavior.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

most women don't have late term abortions. Fetuses feel pain, but embryos are barely alive and can't feel it. And women can become depressed if they keep an unwanted child.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Embryo =/= life in the same way that seed=/= tree. A fetus in the early stages of development isn't a person either, although where that line is is unclear, but three months pregnant seems like a good polocy to me. Before you angrily protest that last sentence, think about how much you actually know about fetal development.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

a better analogy would be embryo =/= adult. both embryos and adults are alive, there's no fighting that, even scentifically.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

* policy

by Anonymous 14 years ago

This is the most idiotic post everr.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Wow. OP, so many people are judged based off of a few stupid people who represnt a group and show the world a bad image when, in general, it isn't true. I'm a Christian. Oh, and guess what? I'm Pro-Choice. My uncle is gay and he's one of my favorite people in the world, and his boyfriend rocks.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

One of my friends was once shot for believing in God, by an athiest. If she would have died, believe me, I would have been upset. Don't post things you don't understand.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

to sum things up you're just really stupid.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Wow, i guess you're the first person I've heard of to meet every christian in this world. congratulations you stereotypical idiot.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I'm saying christians like priests, the pope, etc.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

oh ok so you're saying we should protest robbery, murder, drug dealing, hm what else? Oh yeah anything that's illegal we should protest right?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Being the [atheist] daughter of a Catholic, I think I know his views. The people were sinners. The fetus did absolutely nothing wrong In my view, the fetus isn't alive until the brain is functioning. Not just there. Legitimately functioning. As in, hearing sounds and whatnot.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

what about the heartbeat?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Until a certain point in the pregnancy, the heartbeat wouldn't keep going if the fetus was outside the mother's womb. It would die.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

How do you know they don't care? Obviously you cannot protest every murder, there are laws and organizations that will help to find the murderer. In the case of abortion, the unborn babies don't have a voice to help them and they die without a say.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

The fetus isn't even thinking, why would it care if it died or not?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

The fetus can feel pain. Like an adult being tortured until it caused their death. Would /you/ like to be ripped apart limb for limb until you bled to death? I don't know about you but that sounds kind of painful. People; babies, elderly, children, teens... nobody deserves ANY kind of murder, unless they were an uncontrollable psychopath that killed other people and were a threat to society.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

you are protesting a "baby" that isn't even the size of a pen tip. If that's the case, should we protest when someone swats a fly with a fly swatter? That's legal killing technically.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

The child is not the size of a pen tip at 3 months old.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I know that. Women usually find out earlier than 3 months, stupid. If I had had unprotected sex and missed my period that first month, I wouldn't wait 2 whole more months to see if I was pregnant. I would find out at the first month, when the baby is less than 2 millimeters long and less than a gram in weight.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

so you will kill a developing life because you were stupid.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Every single person protesting abortion cause it's 'murder' had better be a goddam vegetarian. If not, you're a hypocrite. Technically, the animal was murdered. If you aren't against eating meat or eggs, but are against abortion, go walk in front of a speeding truck. I agree with what a previous poster said. Just cause it would be illegal, wouldn't stop it from happening. Now, before anyone yells at me, I personally would not get an abortion unless it was a case where the fetus was endangering my life, but I firmly believe in pro-choice. There are some cases where abortion is better for some people.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Um, I'm sorry...were you comparing an ANIMAL to a HUMAN? 0.o

by Anonymous 14 years ago

look dude, when u kill an animal, you aren't murdering it. you can't murder an animal. Animals were brought to this earth FOR us too eat, so it's not murder!!!!!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

We are technically animals.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Intelligent, Talking, Understanding Animals, then is what we are. Animals don't have souls...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I honestly doubt the "Intelligent" part...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

that is the stupidest thing i've ever heard...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You've obviously never had a pet.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

The "animals don't have souls" part made me very sad.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

WHA!? ya i'm beginning to doubt the intelligent part of some humans.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Humans=Primates=Animalia Kingdom ...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Ugh, you people are so ignorant. The only difference between us and animals is that they rely on instinct, and we rely on morals. They're the smart ones, in my opinion. They aren't killing the planet and having moral debates on every subject.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I honestly don't care if we are classified as animals. You don't walk down the street and be like "Oh look an animal going to the gym!" Or if someone shows you a giraffe and a man you don't say, "I see two animals."

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I agree with that. I was just saying that technically we are animals. Just not the way the word "animal" is described nowadays.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I wasn't denying that technically we are animals, it just seemed to me some people were saying we are on par with them which clearly we're not. =)

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Oh. Ok.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I am a Christian, and a pro-choicer. It's not my body, my baby or my life, so it's not my choice to make for someone else. The most I can do is give love and support the (not) mother so that maybe, in the future, she won't have to be in such a terrible position.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

That is because we are a narcissistic species and think we are above everything else in the world. I want ignorant people like you to be around the next tsunami, see if you can take that. Actually, walk up to a grizzly bear. I would love to hear how you got ripped to shreds by 'just an animal'.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Its good to know there are people wishing evil and death upon people they have never met before. Real classy.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

it's nice to know that there are people telling other people who they have never met before what they can and cannot do with their own body and how to lead their own life. Real classy.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Im not putting down animals or the fact they can be strong. Gosh you're ignorant. Sure they're strong and scary and whatnot but can they design a webpage or write an essay? No.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Obviously, it was meant as a point, not an actual death wish, moron. Can they wipe out entire species of animals? Do they enact war against other types of their species for no reason? Can they destroy the planet? Yes, we are technologically advanced. We are the smartest species. But because we do so many things for the only reason that we CAN, makes us the dumbest as well. You don't see an orange furred tiger killing one with white fur because he doesn't like the difference. Animals are smart. They kill for food, to protect their young, and to protect themselves. Because we have the capacity for morals (and a lack of) we kill because we can.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Since when is writing an essay and designing a web page a life skill. It doesn't make us any better it just means we waste a lot more time.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Thank you, I agree

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Calling people names, and being disrespectful of other peoples opinions is very childish. It is not going to make anything better by calling someone a "Moron" or "ignorant".

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Shut the frick up OP. You sound like an ignorant stereotypical person. To say that statement is a sin in itself. It is such BS!!!!! You should go get a freaking life and education before you make wild accusations about an entire religion. All that needs to be said has already been said in other comments but let me just say that you are NOT in the least bit right. You are the type of person that makes this country so horrible. This WORLD so horrible. So before you go off making more BS statements, take into account all that has been said. Maybe you'll see that it is not other religions that are wrong, but in fact yourself. But from your statement I'm guessing that you're too selfish and self centered to realize that. So go off and continue living your rude angry little life. And remember that you gained about 300 haters today. Think about that OP.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Who cares? I posted it anonymously.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I don't think their should be an option of being anonymous. If you can't say it with your name underneath, don't say it at all. Live up to what you're saying and try not to be cowardly.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You're thinking of this strangely... There are laws against killing. They obviously can't stop people, since they do it anyways. But they could get abortion to be illegal so that they could stop it. There's clinics that would no longer be open.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You ignorat asshole. Apparently you don't know anything about Christianity or any of our beliefs. There actually are many Christians who are pro-choice. Catholics, who are a branch of Christianity, are the main supporters of pro-life. I am pro-life. When anybody dies it is sad, because it easily couldve been someone you who knew that died. A baby is it's own person when it is conceived. From that point on, a woman has a human child growing inside of her. When that child is aborted it is very much the same as an adult or grown human being killed. Shut the hell up unless you know what you're talking about. And whoever the anonymous person was who said abortion is okay unless it is rape is almost as stupid as the person who posted this in the first place. Just because you are raped does not mean you should abort the baby. Is it the childs fault you were raped? No. Although rape is a very sad and disgusting thing, this innocent human should not have to "pay" for something done by s...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You're really naive for saying something like this! Christians hate any form o murder,abortion and ruthless killing! You are really stupid to think us Christians don't care that someone died. Shut up and don't accuse us for things you do t know what your talking about

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Don't generalize. Because, in many ocasions, murderers are "christians". You do not always hate murder, you commit it as well.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

wow poster, could you be anymore ignorant? and really. not just "christians" commit murder. i am a christian and i am not a murderer. and i never will be. before you become more ignorant, and offencive as hell, learn your facts. and honestly, when i find out when somebody dies, i do care. theres really nothing you can do about it most of the time though. but i WILL TRY and stop abortion. so how about you keep your idiotic opinions to yourself, amirite? :P

by Anonymous 14 years ago

uhh i'm christian, and i don't believe in abortion myself, but i respect those who do. in my opinion, making abortion illegal would be considered unconstitutional. but i would like to point out that one of the reasons that abortion was made legal in the first place was because when it was illegal, women would go to an unexperienced, uncertified "doctor" to get an abortion, and that often resulted in major health problems. i'm not saying it's right, i'm just saying that a lot of women will do it anyway, no matter the legality of it.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

dude,just because you are pro-life,doesn't mean you're christian.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I know a lot of Christians that are pro-choice/pro-abortion. pro-life doesn't mean that you're Christian. Grab a whole crapload of people that don't believe in Christianity, and I'm pretty sure that there will be some pro-life people.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Abortion is killing, and so is masturbation!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

It's not just Christians, asshole.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

it makes me sad that over 400 people agree with this.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

me too.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I hate how people assume that all Christians have the same views on everything, and that these views are all pro-life, anti-homosexual and racist views.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

It's funny because fetuses aren't even considered human beings.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

What else would they be? They are the offspring of a male and female human; how does that make them un-human in any way shape or form?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

If they were truly considered human beings, you'd think they'd be counted in the population, but they are not. Therefore, they're not considered 'human.' As per the 14th Amendment, American citizenship is limited to those 'born or naturalized in the United States,' and fetuses are neither. Therefore, they aren't considered human or citizens, giving them no rights. The woman who became pregnant with the child should have full jurisdiction over her fetus. Also, fetuses are like parasites. They live off the woman, and the woman should be able to decide if she wants this fetus in here acting as a parasite. Give me some examples as how fetuses are human.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

just to add to your argument, they aren't fetuses yet, they are still embryos, which don't have their organs yet. Just a clarification.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

the species doesn't change if it has been born yet or not. if a tiger is pregnant with a baby tiger, do you consider its baby "un-tiger" until it has been born? it's the same type of principles here.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Would it be better for a woman to be forced to have a child that she obviously doesn't want, and maybe can't care for properly? Having a child that you aren't ready for can be way more detrimental to the child than having it aborted before it knows anything. And it should certainly be the woman's choice, and her husband/partner, rather than some close-minded people in DC who think they know what's best for everyone.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

it's the ones like you that make me laugh. "let's kill it, because that's the humane thing to do!" give me a break. it's a baby, not a dog.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

There is always the option of adoption! Some people who can't have babies really need one, and giving them a life to raise would make them really happy.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

because we have no babies in our society to adopt. Right.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Fail for just saying plain old Christians. Why not SOME Christians? Not all Christians are like those bastards you see on T.V.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I think that this is incorrect. First, there are already laws or guidelines in place in most societies that prevent murder of out- of- the- womb- humans, so there's less of a possibility that those deaths could have been prevented by a change in laws. However, if you believe that abortion is murder, as I do, a pro- life activist would naturally become more outraged because there is still the possibility that those lives could be saved with an anti- abortion law. In neither of these scenarios is the loss of life more or less tragic, but in the one case some would argue that the abortions could have been prevented.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

It's not like we can stop murders from happening,dude. Sides we r trying to stop any FUTURE abortions. Get a life and stop posting ignorant crap you know nothing about.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

It's annoying how I choose to be Christian and I immediately get judged because "Christians" before me have done things that I completely disagree with.

by Anonymous 14 years ago