Bidets should be compulsory in every toilet. amirite?

As an Italian: this SHOULN'T be an unpopular opinion

by Desperate-Pain 5 months ago

In Italy (and Portugal, according to what I read) bidet is actually mandatory in every house.

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Thank God, I'd say

by Desperate-Pain 5 months ago

Oooh, that's great. More countries should make it norm.

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

Norm and compulsion is not the same thing.

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Every bathroom in Finland has one also

by yroob 5 months ago

America could learn a thing or too from Finland and Italy.

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

you're from India where 4/5th the population doesn't have proper sewage infrastructure and the large majority of raw sewage dumps into waterways but yeah America could learn a thing or two from Finland. PS good job Finland.

by Anonymous 5 months ago

As a Swede living in India: AGREED, BUM GUN FOR ALL!!!

by Anonymous 5 months ago

I haven't seen any in the Airbnb I was in and any bar or restaurants a few weeks ago though. The same with France, Portugal and Spain, though stats say it should be at least common in all those places ... Do they not use it in public places or touristy stays?

by Anonymous 5 months ago

I always wet the toilet paper and finish with dry toilet paper. The first time I used a bidet it was like fire hose pressure.

by Glad_Cup_2277 5 months ago

Haha, good approach. Yes bidet takes some time, but you can bring down the pressure by not turning on the knob fully.

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

And that bidet was probably not tuned properly. They're usually connected to a tap and just closing it slightly does the job.

by Anonymous 5 months ago

If you're American like me, my honest guess for the reason why we don't have it is because we all know someone is going to destroy them. I mean, have you seen public gas station bathrooms? They're always a disgusting mess with graffiti, feces marks, piss or trash everywhere

by Informal-Mammoth 5 months ago

Not a American, but yes public destruction is crazy. But then at least at home people should have it. I've seen so many people hoarding Toilet paper like crazy. I get it in times of sudden calamity where water supply might get cut off, but for everyday use bidet should be the norm. Way too many people are comfortable walking around with nasty asses.

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

I agree, but they never will be because people are stupid and won't let us have nice things. Some idiots are going to find ways to ruin it for everyone, making it too expensive to put/maintain bidets in public toilets.

by Disastrous-Owl1173 5 months ago

American here. Back in 2000 I lived in Egypt for a short time and that's when I was exposed to bidets. (I'm referring to the hand held type washlets, not the other porcelain device sat next to a toilet, in the middle east they are called shattafs) When I returned to USA I HAD to have one at home. They simply didn't exist and the reason I was told was because there was some device missing that would keep fecal matter from possibly returning to the fresh water system. I did find one available finally that would do the trick, nowadays they are easy to come by, but there was a time they simply weren't allowed to be used (safely) on U.S. plumbing and waste systems.

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Wow, that's crazy. Thanks for sharing 👀

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

I've had one for about 15 years. Someone explained it this way. "If there was mud all over your driveway, would you wipe it off with cardboard, or wash it off with a hose." I bought them for my relatives and friends too.

by No_Accident 5 months ago

THIS!!! I cannot for the life of me understand why so few people have bidets. Who wouldn't want a clean ass?!! I use the bidet even after just peeing, so I'm always clean down there. I have bidets in all of my guest bathrooms and guests who use the bidets for the first time, really like them!

by Anonymous 5 months ago

If you're going all the way down to poop particles, even a bidet isn't getting you completely clear of any particles. Maybe less but you're still going to have some there. Personally, I feel like if you want a bidet, have a bidet. I don't really get why you want to mandate how everyone else cleans their asshole…

by destinee04 5 months ago

Say you're walking with sandals/flip-flops, what have you. You step on dog poop. Would you feel better washing or wiping that off your feet?

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Nice analogy xd

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

So many nasty ass defenders :(

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

There are very easily installable bidets that even a child could install. It just hooks to your sink. It comes with a while kit. Over time, you'd save money on toilet paper. You use less TP and your ass is significantly cleaner.

by Parkerdeanna 5 months ago

My pipes are behind tiles. It would be a costly undertaking to hook up anything to them. Not to mention trying to find matching replacement tiles that match the orignals. Also saving money over time is a great concept but only works for people who have the money to invest to begin with.

by No_Mortgage 5 months ago

Why just poop? They're essential for when you're on a period. I feel like architectural misogyny already dictates a lot of stuff, let people want things.

by meredithpfeffer 5 months ago

"Let people want things" They literally said "if you want a bidet, have a bidet."

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Public toilets when you're on your period are hell.

by meredithpfeffer 5 months ago

So you're not arguing that the current situation being very bad for women by default, and then when a workable solution is offered your response is, "not a lot of people want it though." I don't think you meant to, but you accidentally fell into straight up sexism. Like, old school sexism. In those situations if you disagree, you're allowed to just leave it and let women have their opinions about their own experiences be different to yours.

by meredithpfeffer 5 months ago

Essential might be overstating considering how much of the world doesn't use them… I'm happy for someone to want something, I object to making it compulsory. You can want something without making everyone have it

by destinee04 5 months ago

Have you ever experienced a period? Because I don't use a urinal, never have. I find them useless. More than half the population doesn't use them: proof they are not essential. Male defaultism.

by meredithpfeffer 5 months ago

I'm sure it's very useful for a period, that's not my point. I just don't think you can say it's essential if a lot of the people having periods aren't using them.

by destinee04 5 months ago

I dunno about "a lot" not using them, there are tens of millions of people in Asia and the Middle East who would come unstuck if they found a bathroom with just the paper in. (Source: my father in law)

by meredithpfeffer 5 months ago

And there are places like Australia, Britain and North America where they are rarely used. That's tens of millions that wouldn't know how to use them. You are ignoring my actual criticism though, it's that even if they are useful or popular, they aren't essential because that implies you can't get by without them and clearly you can

by destinee04 5 months ago

I'm not assuming my experience is universal, you would fall into the category of the rarely used. They had a popularity in the 70s in the uk, but since then fell out of fashion. This isn't something I'm making up, I just saw an article where in 2018 B&Q only sold 500 bidets. You think that they're a popular thing in the UK if one of the biggest bathroom retailers only sells 500? You need to take your own advice and not think your experience is universal. I'm not saying no one in the uk has one, I'm saying they are rare.

by destinee04 5 months ago

You are not arguing in good faith. I said tens of millions of people in the world rely on them. You said "yes but Anglo Saxons don't use them" I said I'm English and grew up with them, "yes but that's not the norm" The circle gets smaller and smaller and the only acceptable world view is yours.

by meredithpfeffer 5 months ago

Your reply got Shadow banned, but again, not essential. A lovely luxury, not essential. You wanna make the feminine hygiene argument that's fine, but it doesn't explain billions of people not having a bidet and still being alive.

by Halie72 5 months ago

"A lovely luxury" - its men like you that got tampons taxed as a luxury item. I'm just a stranger on the internet, so please ignore me. But my god, listen to your wife from time to time.

by meredithpfeffer 5 months ago

I think the point he's making, in spite of you constantly trying to steer the conversation towards a debate about MuH MiSoGyNehhh, is that the user of the word "essential" isn't appropriate, as it's not an absolute necessity. Like your car needs fuel to work. Fuel is essential for your car. If you don't have a bidet, you're still gonna bleed. A bidet is not essential for a period.

by Halie72 5 months ago

I live in a country where even the airport and convenience stores have them And it's f'n amazing.

by Anonymous 5 months ago

That's great for you, I'm not anti-bidet. I'm anti bidet mandate

by destinee04 5 months ago

Not a mandate. Just a pervasive practice. Like it's not mandated to have a refrigerator but homes all have them because they are area awesome. Imagine a world without skid marks.

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Sure I think it's a great option, but OP said compulsory. I have a world without skid marks and don't have a bidet.

by destinee04 5 months ago

Why not ? The pressure of water is good enough to get everything out, and you can use your hands along for the final swipe. Why mandate ? Because basic hygiene must not be rocket science and should be the norm.

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

It's not good enough that there won't be any poop particles. Just because it's there doesn't mean people would use it. Every bathroom has a sink but you still see people walking out without washing their hands ands that a far bigger public health risk

by destinee04 5 months ago

You only get rid of what's actually visible, so your argument for a bidet is actually a moot point. You don't think there is anything left after using a bidet? The only way to actually be as clean as you want to be, is to actually wash with soap. Anything else is leaves the bacteria, particles, etc. behind. (Pun intended.)

by daijakling 5 months ago

I'm talking about actual solid or semi solid particles, which will go down with water. Whereas with paper they will stick around, especially in hairs around your poop cave.

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

If you have solid particles left over after you wipe with paper, you need to learn to wipe your arse properly. You absolutely shouldn't be having particles left over after wiping. If you're talking about actually cleaning your arse, then water alone won't be enough.

by Acceptable-Phone 5 months ago

You realize many people also use soap when they use a bidet, right?

by Anonymous 5 months ago

So you are saying that paper will do a better job than water ?

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

Even if you somehow manage to wipe off everything properly, it still feels really gross down there. Not to me. Most people are used to wiping with toilet paper so it doesn't feel gross. Unless you're used to bidets like yourself.

by Anonymous 5 months ago

So you are sure that paper will wipe it as clean and properly as water?

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

That's not what I said. I said wiping with paper doesn't feel gross to me because I'm used to it.

by Anonymous 5 months ago

But you do agree that Bidet is superior to Papers ? And just because you don't feel it, doesn't mean it isn't right ?

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

most arab countries all have handheld bidets and i honestly really wish other countries had them too. it's really hard going to the bathroom and using those recycled toilet papers to clean (it hurts too 😭)

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Yes, Western toilet habits demonstrate how uncivilised we are.

by Russklocko 5 months ago

Ikr, it's bonkers when you think so many people are just walking around with nasty bums. Environment thing, hmm interesting point. Also, just from basic hygiene pov, how can you feel ok just by wiping it with a paper :(

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

I'm convinced most bidet-pushers actually just don't know how to wipe. You realise you don't just do it once, right? You keep wiping until it's clean. Only time I've ever used a bidet it didn't have the pressure to actually do anything, had to wipe anyway

by Anonymous 5 months ago

to be fair they work well after you use them a few times. they also help prevent ppl from getting hemorrhoids

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Doing this makes me feel like I'm wasting so much toilet paper

by Sad_Spread 5 months ago

Maybe just eat more fibre so it doesn't take as much? But yeah, I definitely felt that during the TP shortages of 2020

by Anonymous 5 months ago

A bidet and some soap is going to get my ass cleaner than paper no matter how many times I wipe. I think you don't know what a clean ass is.

by Anonymous 5 months ago

So you are saying that if I wipe it again and again it will actually yield better or the same result as cleaning with water ?

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

Yes. Did you really think once was all people did?

by Anonymous 5 months ago

read this as biden as in joe biden, but for some reason i would have still agreed

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Ahahaah

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

As an Indian, I agree. I absolutely hate toilet paper.

by MeetingOk8542 5 months ago

You lot hate toilets as well tho :p

by Halie72 5 months ago

It's only a joke buddy. The world knows, as does India, that India has a reputation about this.

by Halie72 5 months ago

Still. It's stupid,

by MeetingOk8542 5 months ago

yessss I agree. love using a bidet when I'm abroad

by Adele70 5 months ago

you have poop particles on your face. having some of them on your ass (the place theyre from) isnt the end of the world

by Anonymous 5 months ago

If you eat a proper diet, your ass isn't covered with poop particles...

by Interesting_Net_5570 5 months ago

As if Ass hole hair say hello. Regardless of how good your diet is, you won't get solid straight into pot hole. Something will get captured by hair around your ass hole.

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

Couldn't say but then my ass doesn't look like a Wookie's....

by Interesting_Net_5570 5 months ago

Welp, lucky you then.

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

I find a twig to scrap out the grooves in my sole

by Glad_Cup_2277 5 months ago

No offense homie, but no wash?

by schmelercelesti 5 months ago

Do i need to spend several hundred doll hairs getting specialized shoe washing equipment installed in my home? Cause if i do ima use a cloth.

by No_Mortgage 5 months ago

While a lot of them are expensive, you can get a bider for $25-$50.

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Yeah but don't they need plumbing?

by No_Mortgage 5 months ago

You can attach them to your current plumbing system.

by schmelercelesti 5 months ago

Some people might be able to for sure. I'd need to rip up tiles to do that in my place. The cost of installation is gonna vary widely from person to person. I'd genuinely love a bidet in my place but I'd be looking at easily $100 for the installation works, even if i didn't hire a plumber to do it.

by No_Mortgage 5 months ago

How would you shave your asshole?

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Not like proper shaving with a razor, but you can use a trimmer at lowest settings. Gets so silky smooth after that.

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

Op you have a bidet in your house I assume?

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Yep

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

Sounds like you've got a good Christmas gift list idea for your friends and family

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Where I live it's common.

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

in the US right, what state? or are you talking about a country club golf course in the back yard situation

by Anonymous 5 months ago

I never want someone to tell me how I have to clean my asshole

by Anonymous 5 months ago

That's good to, but what if you are not at home ?

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

100%

by Sure_Historian 5 months ago

this is what an Italian would call a "bidet", not those stupid attachments.

by Mafaldabartell 5 months ago

What? Italian too here, and bidets don't fill the basin. Also, didn't mum teach you how to clean yourself? I mean, using soap, lathering and then rinsing?

by Mafaldabartell 5 months ago

I agree . Yuk no amount of wiping will clean your butthole.

by No_Vehicle 5 months ago

So many people are walking around with crusty asses and bad attitudes.

by Margrethyatt 5 months ago

Amen

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

Bidets are absolutely not the norm in my country and everyone lives somehow. People aren't walking covered in poop afaik. And poop particles are everywhere. We're humans. The world isn't sterile. It's not the end of the world.

by RealisticPublic3195 5 months ago

Who said anything about walking covered in poop ? It's about hygiene.

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago

Buttholes are supposed to be poopy. That's what they're made for.

by Intelligent-Age-1368 5 months ago

I don't eat with my butthole, so who cares if there's any poop particles there? It's where poop comes. I have to go at a festival, amusement park or whatever, how else am I going to do it? Bring my portable bidet?

by Anonymous 5 months ago

Delusional much ?

by No_Expression9485 5 months ago