The Bible says all sins are equal in God's eyes. With the logic we should ban gay marriage because of religion, we should also cut off the tongues of prideful men and take away a liar's right to speak. It makes no sense to try to ban one specific sin if they are equal in the eyes of...

ya well Humpty Dumpty says don't sit on ledges,... doesn't mean we should listen to every fairy tale

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I don't think I understand your point.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

(Toe-bee): They're trying to be witty and saying that the bible is a fairy tale.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

And that made no sense.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

meaning some of the Bibles parables and "rules" are ridiculous and have to be broken or else you just cant live. it also says in the bible every man that masturbates should be stoned to death bc he is spilling life.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Isn't the whole point of organized Christianity that you can't pick and choose what parts of the Bible you want to follow?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

why is also really funny, because regardless of you masturbating or not, your semen will die and be replenished

by Anonymous 14 years ago

organized Christianity. theres no such thing. im not christian anyways so i dont pick and choose. i was helping out the 1st comment for project of failure to understand his concept.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

yes, sperm doesnt last long. neither do a bunch of guys..pahaha

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I'm pretty sure the person that writes supermarketslut on twitter is a man. but i still fap to the picture. does that make me gay? fuck knows.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Thing is... even if we do ban gay marriage they will still sin. it's not for so they don't sin anymore because that wouldn't work anyways but it is so they don't make fun of the religious act of marriage.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

please just shut up.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

...Marriage is religious? Well then I guess athiests shouldn't marry either!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Or Muslims, Jews, Hindus, Buddhists, Satanists, Pagans, Agnostics... Hell, anyone who isn't Christian! I mean, why should they get to marry when they don't follow Christianity? Because apparently straight Christians are the only people who are allowed to love someone.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Just because you don't believe in God doesn't mean that He doesn't give you the gift of marriage. Whether you like it or not, God loves you.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

So... gay people too?

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Thats why people came up with civil unions. Marriage isnt religious to everyone otherwise it would not be allowed in the constitution. Thats what separation of church ans state is for. Religion should by law never be the reason to keep something out of the constitution.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

“Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other.” -John Adams Separation of Church and State is supposed to keep the government from interfering with churches, not to ban religion.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

IT's odd that he would say that, since he apparently also said, “This would be the best of all possible worlds, if there were no religion in it.” Of course I don't know the context of that. I just got it after Googling your quote because sometimes people make up quotes and they are assumed to be true if left unchecked.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Marriage was a civil act long before religion got involved. Thousands of years ago men married off their daughters for money or to combine their territories. There was no religion in that.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Yes, if you get married in a church it is religious, but if you get married somewhere like city hall it isn't. Even if the churches don't allow it, gay couples should still be able to get married by law and not by religion. You don't have to have a ceremony at a church to have all the benefits of being married.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Hey man, can you sell me some drugs?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

This post is ridiculous, those who don't understand the Bible, criticize the Bible.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

So the only people who 'understand' the bible are the ones who believe in it? So you're saying that non-Christians aren't capable of understanding a piece of literature just because they don't believe it's true? I'm sorry, but doesn't one have to understand something to be able to properly criticize it?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

No, non-Christians can understand it. I've met plenty of non-Christians who can argue their point without taking the Bible out of context, many can admit it is at the least a good book to live by. No, you don't have to understand something to criticize it either, it's easy to criticize people, and objects you don't understand, simply because you do not understand them.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You made it sound like someone only criticizes the bible because they don't understand it. Besides, I know people who don't even bother criticizing it BECAUSE they don't understand it, as well as people who only tried to develop understanding for the sole reason of criticizing it.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Dude. Misinterpretations. Anyone can critisize something if they get the wrong perspective. "I believe that man is guilty because fingerprints were found at the scene." well okay, but the fingerprints were not the mans. Misinterpretation of evidence can lead to the wrong man being put in prison or in this case the "disproving the bible"

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Tell me how I'm wrong about this, please. I understand the Bible. I was raised as a Christian and have read it through numerous times.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Those who will argue about religion, need to get a life. I love God, and I'm a strong believer, but I respect everyone's opinions, and I don't like posts like this.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

you rock. I sooo agree.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Haha, well thank you :)

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I completely agree with what you're saying. It's wrong to drag religion to this website because it gets ugly very quickly.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

This is a site about opinions. There's a line between debating and arguing, you realize? What use would this site be if people weren't allowed to say they're opinions? That's the purpose of this site, and sorry if you feel that I need to get a life.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

No, but people need to stop the religion topic. I don't know why people keep bringing it up.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Religion is an opinion. This is a site ABOUT opinions. That's why.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

no, it's a belief.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Beliefs are still opinions.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

We should really just realize that The Bible =/= Government...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

to ProjectOfFailure: you are taking the stories of the Bible out of their context.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

How so? Thanks.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I tentatively agreed with this post; let me explain... Yes, the Bible says all sin is equal in His eyes, and yes, if "Christans" are so adamant about keeping gay marriage illegal, then the same approach should be (in theory) taken to other sins, which is the point this post was making. However, this biblical verse wasn't saying all sins are equally bad so much as it was saying God doesn't care about them all. They're not equally punishable as much as God has been equally full of Grace toward all of them. With Jesus, sin—and all of them equally—has been eradicated. And when has any law ever kept anyone from sinning? Never. That's the only thing the Mosaic Law proved, after all: that we were powerless to uphold it. Fear of punishment is not the same as righteous living. And if marriage was just like any other law, then I would say Christians have no business saying who it applies to. BUT marriage is not a normal law. [...]

by Anonymous 14 years ago

[continued] It is (whether it seems so or is treated as such nowadays or not) a sacred bond that represents the bond of Christ himself and the Church. And as such, Christians feel the need to defend it from "gay marriage." I'm not entirely sure if this is a good thing to do, because this defense seems to be out of pride in a religion rather than love from a relationship with God. I could go on and on, but I'll stop.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

You mentioned that all sin has been equally removed because according to the bible, Jesus died for all of our sins. Maybe you can't answer this, but I want you to at least try: If it is taught that Jesus died for all of our sins, why do people seems to forget that? -Some- people say that being gay is a sin, but if it is, wouldn't Jesus have died for that sin too?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Well, Jesus' death for our sins doesn't mean we can accept that, keep sinning, and everything will be okay. Accepting this gift of grace also allows God to reside inside of us, helping us to become more like Him. A person who has accepted Jesus and yet is gay will surely feel the Holy Spirit trying to tell him that something is wrong there, not in a harsh way, but out of love. (I KNOW it sounds completely wrong and makes no sense if you're not a Christian). But as to the core of your question: yes, the sin is forgiven, just like the rest. That is, if you have accepted Jesus. Some people also seem to forget that there is a choice. That is all that remains now that God has made the ultimate sacrifice. After Grace, there is only choice, accept the gift or reject it. If we do, forgiveness envelopes us and we are reborn.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Another question: Why do some Christians feel the need on imposing laws based on their religion? Some people make it seem like if gay marriage was allowed churches would be forced to marry gay people. That simply is not true because we are guaranteed freedom of religion so if a minister says it against their religion they do not have to marry them. America is a country that got some of it's morals from religion, but that the same time we have freedom of and freedom from religion. Wouldn't that make illegalizing gay marriage unconstitutional?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

This'll sound preachy and like I'm some sort of super-Christian who is about to hit you in the face with a Bible, but I'm not like that. I promise. I'm just an average Catholic. The way I see it, we worry about gay marriage so much because we don't want the gift of love, marriage, and sex to become tainted. If you were given a brand new iPhone, or a Segway, or a brand new Mercedez Benz, wouldn't you be a little upset if people who didn't know exactly how to use it got their fingerprints and scraches all over it? Thats kind of how I feel about marriage. Another reason is that People who believe in God generally want others to see the salvation. I don't even know you, but I hope that some day, I'll get to hang out with you in Heaven. We want as many people as possible to make it to Heaven with us and the easiest way is to avoid sin. I won't comment on if its unconstitutional or not because I don't know that much about the constitution

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Same sex marriage doesn't taint marriage, it expands it. High divorce rates and infidelity taint marriage. Long before religion was involved a man was allowed to marry whatever gender he wanted to. The only thing that mattered was love. Saying I can't marry my girlfriend is restricting our ability to show people our committment to each other and it's denying us our civil rights as human beings.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Divorce and infidelity are also moral sins. To me, they seem equally as wrong as gay marriage.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Can you tell me the exact verse that condemns same sex marriage? I want to look it up. I know there are 6 verses condemning heterosexual people from having same sex adultery, but I've never read anything about same sex marriage. (I know the bible uses the words homosexual to describe all same sex acts, but since no one understood homosexuality as it is today I take it to mean same sex adultery.)

by Anonymous 14 years ago

This reminds me of a quote from a movie after a couple wanted to get divorced after being married less than 24 hours "the gays aren't destroying the sanctity of marriage. You people are."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

This reminds me of a quote from a movie after a couple wanted to get divorced after being married less than 24 hours "the gays aren't destroying the sanctity of marriage. You people are."

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Then what about the millions of other people in the world who marry, but follow a different religion, or no religion at all?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I think marriage has evolved into something more secular, and has almost lost its meaning. However, the ceremony is still performed by priests. I think mainly the problem is that marriage became a document that became entangled with "rights" and "laws," which made it lose the core of the bond it represents. I'm not saying a marriage by non-Christians means nothing or isn't a beautiful thing, not at all, just that it BEGAN as this sacred bond that has become secularized.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

But not all marriages are performed by christian priests, or any kind of priest what so ever. And saying that a gay couple can't marry because the bible says they can't is like saying my Pagan friend isn't allowed to marry because, according to the bible, she's a heathen. If they're going to make something like homosexual marriage illegal because of the bible, then they might as well make any kind of marriage between any non-christian illegal as well.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

That would directly violate seperation of church and state. And if your thinking this, no, Christian people voting on gay marriage being allowed isn't break seperation of church and state. This is a democracey, majority rules.

by Anonymous 13 years ago

Marriage doesn't have to represent a bond of Christ and the Church. Pretty much all cultures have some form of marriage, and different religions have different ideas as to what marriage represents. In the US, however, marriage does not have to be a religous act. You can believe whatever you choose to about it, but all married couples, regardless of religion, have the same rights. Christian churches (or any other church) don't have to allow gay marriage, but gay couples don't have to get married in those places.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

e@346153 (JustASmallTownGirl): Then why is gay marriage illegal? Because Christians don't like it and believe that marriage should only be between a man and a woman, according to THEIR beliefs and THEIR bible. But not everyone believes in the same thing, and I think it's simply ridiculous that a certain group of people aren't allowed to get married because of ONE religion.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I totally agree with you! Like I said, a marriage doesn't have to be performed in a Christian church to be "real". Why should Christians have the final say in what real marriage is?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

That's for God to decide. End of story.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

How will we know if God decides something, or are you being sarcastic like your name suggests?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

If God decides something... Like what? And how can I be sarcastic by saying "That's for God to decide" when it is, in fact, for Him to decide?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Like how can we possibly know if god decides something? What if He decided to add to the bible? How would we know?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

It's His choice if He wants to change something in the Bible and He'll find a way somehow. All I can say is that maybe we'll know in the afterlife. I'm not sure on how to answer your question nor give a correct example since I am not God and things like these are for God to answer and say, not kids like us on the Internet who aren't God. (Sorry it that's a bit confusing).

by Anonymous 14 years ago

This is why I'm agnostic. Until I see definate proof that there is a god other I will continue to say that there may or may not be a god.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

That's understandable. I'm agnostic as well and I can see where you are coming from.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

the point is its for god to decide if thats you religion but we as people have no right keeping anyone from getting married. It shouldnt be a government argument to keep any kind of marriage illigal.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I agree with that 100%.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

:/ What bible have you been reading?? ..the scripture please because i dont remember seeing "All sins are equal, im God, and thats what ive just said" in the bible

by Anonymous 14 years ago

it's impossible to make every sin in the bible the law.. come on.. us Christians lie too! we all sin. i hate it when people use one quote from the bible, when they have never read the whole thing. you want to have an intelligent convo? get back to me when you wipe the dust off your bible and read it.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I've read the Bible several times, I can assure you this. And I know. It's not possible for every sin to be against the law, so why are we targeting one sin? That's the point I'm trying to make. I mean no offense to you.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

also, God says "all sins are equal in my eyes" because he looks at no one better then another person. if i lied to my mom and said i'm going to youth group, but went to a party instead, God sees that just as bad as when someone murdered someone that same night. one has more consequences on the earth then the other, but in heavens book, one more tally mark on our sin list goes on. the only way to remove it, is by repenting. obviously i'm trying to paint a picture.. dont take this to literally.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Here's what I don't get: It says all sins are equal, but then Jesus says that two of the commandments are more important than the others commandments. If all sins are equal, wouldn't that make all commands equal?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Jesus did not say that two of the commandments are more important. He took all of the commandments and put them into two simple guidlines. 1.“Hear, O Israel, the Lord our God is one Lord; and you shall love the Lord your God with all your heart, and with all your soul, and with all your might.” 2. "You shall love your neighbor as yourself." If you look at all of the 10 Commandments, you will see that they fall into those two different catagories. Do some research before you say something like that. You probably don't even go to chruch.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

In the New Testament, Jesus was asked about the commandments and he said that the most important one was to worship God with all your heart, and the second most important was to love your neighbor.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Yes, and are either of those one of the Ten Commandments?

by Anonymous 14 years ago

YES!!!! The first two in fact!!!!!

by Anonymous 14 years ago

No they're not! The first commandment is : 'You shall have no other gods before Me.' the second is: 'You shall not make for yourself a carved image--any likeness of anything that is in heaven above, or that is in the earth beneath, or that is in the water under the earth.' Like I said before, do some freaking research.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Matthew 22:35-40 "One of them, an expert in religious law, tried to trap him (Jesus) with this questin: 'Teacher, which is the most important commandment in the law of Moses?' Jesus replied, "'You must love the Lord God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind.'" This is the first and greatest commandment. A second is equally important, "' Love your neighbor as yourself.'" The entire law and all the demands of the prophets are based on these two commandments.' " Although technically, not about the Ten Commandments, it was about God's commandments to his people, said by no less than the son of the Lord himself. There's your, "freaking reasearch".

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Yes, they were two NEW commandments that He gave them.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

It says "which commandment in the law of Moses", that means Moses already gave the rule. Anyway, my original confusion was that some commandments are more important than others, so shouldn't that make some sins more important? I know it says otherwise in the Bible, but it doesn't make much sense.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Lol. That's really all I have to say to that. Nothing more educated, just... lol.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

All sins are equal in God's eyes in the sense that they are all negative. Some are in fact worse than others and thats what we call Mortal and Venial sins. Mortal sins are the bad ones. They are the ones that severely hurt your relationship with God. Venial sins aren't as bad. They still hurt the grace that is between you and God, but they aren't as serious. To be a mortal sin, it must be a grave matter, the sinner must know that it is wrong to do, and the sinner is doing it all on their own with no force from another person. Most mortal sins are illegal now anyways. The more serious ones that we see nowadays are murders, theft, kidnapping, rape, and acts of violence. Gay marriage is a mortal sin. Marriage is supposed to be a sacrament shared between a man and a woman. Don't get me wrong, I do feel very sorry for all the homosexuals who cannot get married and are in love, but maybe if you are gay, the married life just isn't your calling.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Before Christianity was invented, men and men got married in ancient Rome. Marriage is not just a religious thing, it's mostly a civil event.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

(shelbica): Why do people assume that only Christians are against gay marriage????? There are plenty of other religions out there that do not support it and there are plenty of unreligious people who do not support it! People are always attacking Christians about it. "Before Christianity was invented..." What? Do you for some reason think that there wasn't a God before Christanity was founded? Do you think that the Jews from back then didn't have God's law to follow? And it wasn't invented. Christianity was founded on the life, death, and rising again of our lord, Jesus Christ. I will agree that marriage is a civil event, but before that it is a religious sacrament. Do you think that back then in ancient Rome, God didn't exist and therefore his laws on marriage didn't? They probably hadn't been given the laws of god or ihis rules and love, but for goodness sakes, marriage has always been a gift from God! He has always been there! Always! it has nothing to do with when Crhistianity...

by Anonymous 14 years ago

...was invented! It has to do with the fact that God gave us the gift of marriage and sex to share between and man and a woman. If it was supposed to work any other way, He wouldn't have made genders. I apologize for the typos.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Give me proof that God exists and your arguments will be valid. God did not give us the gift of marriage. Marriage was created by man to own a woman. But now it's changed. Now marriage is a civil union between two loving and committee adults.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I don't see how it matters if it's a sin or not. We have SEPARATION of church and state. Which means gay marriage should not be illegal, on the basis of religion. In fact, I've never heard an adequate reason against legalizing gay marriage, except for "it's a sin." I'm really sick of it, because it should have nothing to do with a person's religious belief, yet they insist on involving it. It's ridiculous.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

EXACTLY! As marriage relates to religion, it can certainly be left to individual churches whether they want to recognize gay marriages. But, people get married outside of the church all the time and religion shouldn't have any bearing on that.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

I think its dumb that Catholic religion doesnt believe in gay marriage, They say that God loves everyone the way they are, so he would love gay people as well. so really those who believe in God and gay marriage are going against God saying that gay people are bad people, love them for who they are, not who they are with.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

and are against gay marriage*

by Anonymous 14 years ago

(C:): He loves the sinner but hates the sin. He loves gay people as much as the pope and everyone else

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Was this a post of the day or something? I went on here to see 70 new comments on this. Rarely happens.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Thank you so much for this post.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

Honestly, would God discriminate? I think that God loves everyone, and that's they way it shoud be.

by Anonymous 14 years ago

sup.....

by Anonymous 14 years ago