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Casey Anthony being found not guilty is our justice system working, amirite?
by Anonymous3 months ago
That is the justice system at work, they usually get away with convicting people on flimsy evidence, it's a good thing that they don't get away with it all the time.
by Anonymous3 months ago
Exactly. Which is our system working. The state jumped the gun and folded to public outcry to quickly.
by Anonymous3 months ago
Prosecutorial incompetence is an intended part of our legal system? What are you talking about?
by leola913 months ago
Imagine thinking a guilty person going free due to negligence is good because you'd rather be a bootlicker
by Anonymous3 months ago
Hes saying its a good thing the system works as intended, even if the outcome isnt favorable. Better a hundred guilty men go free than one innocent suffer, or however that goes.
by Anonymous3 months ago
So do you think innocent people going to jail is our justice system working? Really? Because that's basically what you've just said here.
by napoleon483 months ago
Feels a bit like you're conflating some part of the system working with the system itself working. As in, nearly everyone will agree that beyond reasonable doubt is a good standard, but that doesn't mean there isn't this whole other part of the system (the prosecutorial investigation) that failed. There is. They messed up. They're a part of the system and they failed in their due diligence.
by Anonymous3 months ago
Is doing a proper investigation part of the justice system?
by Devinbrown3 months ago
I understand what you're saying and I agree. It's a failure on one end and a success of procedure on the other. Same with OJ. He obviously did it, but the defense was able to raise enough doubt to acquit.
by bennyjaskolski3 months ago
Which is an injustice.. which is an example of when justice fails. Therefore the justice system is not working as intended except for people who are willing to be as manipulative as possible to evade consequences.
by Anonymous3 months ago
That's literally an example of the justice system's failure. Do you not hear yourself?
by Anonymous3 months ago
In the end we don't want people convicted of crimes if they aren't proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. It's at least much better than an innocent person being convicted.
by Ernestina163 months ago
No, it's an example of our system not working. I fail to see your point. They did not do something that would have made a considerable impact on the outcome of the case.
by Anonymous3 months ago
Yeah, so where the prosecution went wrong is they made it a death penalty level offense when they did not have death penalty level evidence. The evidence they did have made her look bad, but there was very little that was concrete. Mostly circumstantial. When you are trying to give someone the death penalty, the expectation of what evidence is collected needs to be high, and the prosecution just didn't have it.
by Anonymous3 months ago
You say 'how we feel about them' twice, seemingly to suggest that's the main or only reason people want her to be in jail. But you also mention hiding a body, lying to police, abuse and negligence. Those aren't feelings, they're (supposed) facts. You make it seem like those cannot be used as reasons to want her to be in jail, which seems odd to me. Besides that, when people say 'she should be in jail', they say that because she killed her kid, not because they necessarily disagree with the judgement on her specific charges. It's your justice system working, badly. Wanting that to not be the case doesn't mean you want the justice system to not work.
by Plane-Artichoke3 months ago
That she's bad and did bad things is what they're talking about regarding people's feelings towards her. Otherwise people wouldn't dislike her. But that's not enough to have someone be in prison. Even if guilty of everything it's better to have her out than have her in when the case wasn't proven beyond a reasonable doubt. That's what leads to innocent people being convicted.
by Ernestina163 months ago
The fact is, she did it. For sure. The prosecution dropped the ball and that feels like our justice system NOT working to me.
by Anonymous3 months ago
No Casey, you cannot kill another child.
by altenwerthestel3 months ago
The prosecutors are to blame for her walking. They were so sure that any jury would convict her that they only went with first degree murder. Without the ability to prove how Caylee died, the state couldn't prove intent. Several members of the jury said they would have convicted her on a lesser charge that didn't require proof of intent, but they weren't offered any other options, so they had to find her not guilty. So, while the jury did their job, the justice system isn't working. Arrogant, overzealous prosecutors get in the way of justice all the time.
by Anonymous3 months ago
You can watch the whole oj trial on YouTube. I've been watching it on and off since 2019. I'm through may and I would of said not guilty based on what I've heard so far
by Mclaughlinshano3 months ago
I was also going to bring up the OJ trial. I one hundred percent think he did it, but I also believe the LAPD really messed up. We should all want juries to hold law enforcement to the highest standard when the goal is to imprison people for life. Of course, there are other factors in the OJ case, like the racist Mark Fuhrman and the aftermath of the LA Riots and I think that was a large factor in the verdict. The judge and the prosecution screwed that up royally too. The family deserved better.
by Anonymous3 months ago
isn't it actually a sign our justice system didn't work because they weren't able to prove without a reasonable doubt that she did it so she walked free
by IntrepidLayer43413 months ago
Not really. If the evidence doesn't exist, then she shouldn't be convicted
by Admirable_Swimmer3 months ago
This is factually inaccurate. Juries can have doubts, they just can't amount to a reasonable doubt.
by Anonymous3 months ago
Compare this with the Australian Kelli Lane. Baby goes missing. No body. No evidence of murder. Gets found guilty.
by Leonelboyer3 months ago
She 110% killed her kid. The prosecution was terrible and fumbled the bag hard by overcharging her.
by WinQuiet3 months ago
I wrote any reasonable doubt, not any doubt
by Anonymous3 months ago
Same with OJ. Prosecution should have done a better job.
by shieldslacey3 months ago
She googled "fool proof suffocation"…
by Anonymous3 months ago
The jury members talked about it. They felt sick about it but did not feel the prosecutor gave them enough for a guilty verdict, while also acknowledging that not guilty does not necessarily mean innocent.
by Darrelgoodwin3 months ago
Deciding which crimes to charge her with is part of our justice system.
by Due_Elephant3 months ago
In every case I have followed closely, I can't say the jury finding them not guilty was ever wrong. This isn't saying that I found the accused innocent but there was always reasonable doubt. In fact, I would say that the only time I have had issues with juries is when they convicted in spite reasonable doubt.
by lydamccullough3 months ago
I watched this show a while ago where some of the members of the jury were interviewed. To sum it up, there just wasn't enough evidence to convict her.
by Loose-Pomegranate3 months ago
OJ Simpson
by Anonymous3 months ago
What the title should say is "Casey Anthony murdered her child and got away with it because the jurors based decisions on the attitudes of the attorneys"
by Anonymous3 months ago
I agree, in theory. In theory, you're right. We all know she's guilty, but do we really know that? Would we stand before God and bet our life to an all knowing being, if we're right she is found guilty and sentenced to death; if we're wrong we're struck dead? Some might, I suppose. But that option doesn't exist. What we have is the best we've got.
by Anonymous3 months ago
I can think of many cases where the prosecution did not prove beyond ANY reasonable doubt that a crime/murder was committed, 'proof beyond a reasonable doubt' is the most overused term ever and it's very selectively applied.
by Particular_Text_95323 months ago
'proof beyond a reasonable doubt' is the most overused term ever It's the legal standard that (in theory) has to be met not something people say to sound smart on the Internet; hard to be overused. and it's very selectively applied. I'll give you that part.
by Anonymous3 months ago
Fair enough, I'll give you that.
by Anonymous3 months ago
It's not an "overused term"—it's the actual legal standard in criminal cases, so of course it's repeated with every trial.
by Lazy_Pattern31453 months ago
My problem isn't with it being repeated at every trial which is fair game, my problem is with the way it's applied.
by Particular_Text_95323 months ago
This case could have been done directly with a judge and no jury perhaps?
by Particular_Text_95323 months ago
Yeah but then the state gets to decide the outcome of every case entirely and it's super hard for that to be impartial when one party to the litigation is always the prosecution, another branch of the state. Letting the state have that much control over the outcome of all criminal cases is a bad idea—judges can be more biased than a jury of peers for a number of reasons. Again reiterating it sucks and I see where you're coming from it's just the best we can do in my opinion
by Lazy_Pattern31453 months ago
The convicting jury disagrees with your statement of doubt. Their doubt is the only doubt that matters. And if the conviction was upheld on appeal that only further solidifies that
by Jess033 months ago
The convicting jury got it wrong. It doesn't change the fact that in the end no one was ever punished for the crime because of perceived reasonable doubt, that's the even bigger injustice.
by Particular_Text_95323 months ago
There was no direct evidence she physically committed the murder. But when Aaron Hernandez was convicted of killing Lloyd, there was some statute that said it didn't need to be proved that he was the one who physically killed Lloyd in order to convict for first degree murder. That should've been applied to the Casey Anthony case… so no, I don't think this is our justice system working.
by Elissagorczany3 months ago
Who is that? Our justic3 system?
by Anonymous3 months ago
It's a case of the importance of having a proper lawyer. Indeed she was allowed to have one, as it's her right But just the fact she was able to win, shows our justice system did not work properly.
by Anonymous3 months ago
Finally.. an unpopular opinion I actually agree with
by Anonymous3 months ago
Out of random curiosity, do you believe she did it? With all the evidence that was presented
by Able-Reward3 months ago
Literally the only reason she was acquitted is because the prosecution overcharged her beyond what the evidence provided. The convicting jurors have talked about it since it happened - they wanted to convict her but couldn't due to the overcharge. If the prosecution had cooled their heels and stick to the right level of offense, she'd be in prison. 🤷🏻♀️
by Key_Giraffe3 months ago
Plenty that she hid a body(not charged) that she lied to the police (not charged) that she was abusive (not charged) she was negligent (not charged). Wrong. She was charged with giving false information to police and obstruction of justice, and was charged with negligence, which is a form of child abuse. She was convicted on all four counts of providing false information to the police.
by Anonymous3 months ago
We don't have a justice system in America, we have a legal system. If you want to argue that the legal system functioned as intended by protecting her, I guess there are arguments you could make to support that. But I think that Justice is not something that is decided by the legal system because true Justice would be holding Casey Anthony accountable for murdering her kid.
by Garrison843 months ago
Nah, there was evidence excluded that should have been given to the jury. When a child murderer walks free, it is not the justice system working.
by Strong-Homework3 months ago
I watched the whole thing and I have never seen a more guilty person...blame csi...juries think they need a blueprint of a crime...no common sense involved
by Anonymous3 months ago
The jury did their job The prosecutor failed
by Signal_Wind3 months ago
Sure, you can't necessarily blame the justice system in this case, because there wasn't enough hard evidence. But it's still totally reasonable to feel frustrated that a person who is obviously guilty of murdering her own child is just walking around free. Nobody is saying we wish we should convict people on weak evidence
by mayemosciski3 months ago
She was charged, and convicted, of lying to the police. Also I'd argue that any reasonable person wouldn't doubt that Casey Anthony killed her daughter
by Many-Knowledge-11243 months ago
What are you talking about? She wasn't found guilty because there wasn't enough hard evidence. That's not an opinion, it's a fact. Everyone knows she did it though. Just like OJ Simpson
by Reaganokon3 months ago
Are you saying she didn't do it?
by Sydni773 months ago
No, I'm saying the state didn't prove she did
by Anonymous3 months ago
She was charged and convicted on lying to the police
by Correct_Bus_88893 months ago
I actually would rather have a few innocent people in prison if it means the guilty ones end up there too.
by Anonymous3 months ago
Are you volunteering?
by Flashy_Argument3 months ago
That's a screwed up sentiment to have
by Anonymous3 months ago
Would you be okay with going to prison for some crime you did not commit if it meant that Casey Anthony went to prison as well?
by Anonymous3 months ago
You wanna take one for the team?
by Upstairs_Copy16093 months ago
If you were one of those innocent people I bet you would change your tune real quick.
by Special-Potato3 months ago
But if an innocent person goes to jail, then the one who was guilty goes free.
by GeologistFinancial3 months ago
I think the amount of doubt that she was innocent was reasonably to call her guilty
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