-33 Unconditional Love doesn't exist, amirite?

by shaniyasipes 3 months ago

You can love someone but that doesn't mean you have to support every decision they make. And at a certain point you may have to move on from someone if they keep making decisions you don't support, even if you love them. Unconditional love≠unconditional support

by dustygerhold 3 months ago

Yeah, but I think you'd fall out of love at that point, right?

by More-Information-694 3 months ago

Yeah, I guess... but what even is "love" at that point? Like, you still love your ex from 20 years ago? Haven't spoken since then, but you love them?

by More-Information-694 3 months ago

Listing a single example of a hypothetical relationship whose love is conditional doesn't mean that none of the billions of actual living human beings on the planet haven't ever loved someone without conditions.

by corkerydashawn 3 months ago

exactly, i think OP is projecting his example from experience

by Anonymous 3 months ago

My true experience was more the opposite. I was dating a girl who gained 15 lbs. When I very politely asked her if she was going to start going back to the gym again, and told her that people should try to look good for each other while in relationships, she flipped. She told all her friends. Men and women were telling me I needed unconditional love. But unconditional love doesn't exist

by shaniyasipes 3 months ago

Like tbh 15lbs isn't that much this is kinda out of pocket esp bc people's (even who go to the gym) body weight fluctuates.. Though I do see your concern of unconditional love not existing

by Sea_Assignment 3 months ago

Believe it or not it does exist, it's just not very common.

by Anonymous 3 months ago

Your definition of love needs work.

by Anonymous 3 months ago

So are you claiming it doesn't exist in romantic relationships or just doesn't exist at all?

by Nicoleturner 3 months ago

Just romantic relationships. I think parent/child relationships and family relationships have it. Maybe even some romantic relationships, but unconditional love will not hold a couple together. You might still love someone who crossed a line and you end it

by shaniyasipes 3 months ago

I once heard that the only unconditional love in this world is from a parent to a child and I agree.

by Anonymous 3 months ago

It's also commonly abused by parents to manipulate the child to live vicariously through them or to stunt their growth out of jealousy.

by Anonymous 3 months ago

Woah interesting. What about from a child to a parent?

by shaniyasipes 3 months ago

And dog to master

by Anonymous 3 months ago

I loved my husband the same when he worked his ass off, got his parents involved, and did whatever it took to get me out of my parents house, my horses included, on a property of our own - while we were just dating. As I did when my husband was suddenly jobless for 8 months after our best friend died, while I worked. Was depressed and barely taking care of himself, and struggling daily. As I do now as a spoiled stay at home wife that sleeps til noon and gets coffee brought to me in bed in the morning on the weekends while he takes over the animal care so I can stay in bed w/my coffee. And I'd do it again for him, as he would for me. I don't think love like that is common. Especially in today's age. But it certainly exists.

by Anonymous 3 months ago

Yeah, but what if he never got a job and stayed on the couch forever? Eventually you'd have probably forgot what you loved about him. Everyone has a limit.

by More-Information-694 3 months ago

Yes, but what if all those things you did produced zero results and he never got off the couch? Your unconditional love story comes from the perspective that it all worked out for you in the end. You have a breaking point, cheating, drugs, wasting money, abuse etc.

by More-Information-694 3 months ago

I think "people should leave abusive relationships" is actually a popular opinion

by Anonymous 3 months ago

While it's important to have boundaries and expectations in relationships, unconditional love is not about tolerating harmful behavior or condoning unacceptable actions

by jeromydickinson 3 months ago

It is complicated. Maybe not so black and white

by shaniyasipes 3 months ago

That's a fair point. Unconditional love sounds simple in theory, but in practice, it's messy and complicated. It's hard to separate love from boundaries, expectations, and the natural give-and-take of relationships. Loving someone without conditions doesn't necessarily mean accepting everything they do or never getting hurt — it's more nuanced than that. It's definitely not as black and white as it seems.

by jeromydickinson 3 months ago

Who hurt you bro, nvm see you at the gym

by Anonymous 3 months ago

Let's get swole!

by shaniyasipes 3 months ago

It's not supposed to. Love within committed monogamous relationships is supposed to be conditional. Unconditional love is for children. Your children.

by mayertatyana 3 months ago

Wanting to leave someone doesn't mean you don't love them unconditionally. As an example, there are lots of parents who have estranged children, some of them not so great people who make bad decisions. Those parents might not want to see those kids very often, and will probably not want to lend them money or support them because they feel like they need to improve on their own. But they do love them. They have always loved them and nothing can take that away. Not only does unconditional love exist when people aren't close and one may not want to support the other, it's a core part of what that term means. You don't have to enjoy spending time with someone to love them unconditionally.

by Anonymous 3 months ago

Usually unconditional love is not for sexual partners but for blood relatives. If your dad/mom or child did what you described you would still love them.

by Vlabadie 3 months ago

Hell yeah we agree!

by shaniyasipes 3 months ago

Gonna hit you with the big DUH

by No_Sky_2117 3 months ago

I mean it's a hypothetical so who knows what could happen. What you described is entirely possible. But what if he refused to ever change back to his old ways?

by shaniyasipes 3 months ago

What if the girl is into neets?

by Anonymous 3 months ago

If you are putting this on the Internet, your relationship is not working. If you're unhappy with the situation, then you need to end it.

by Anonymous 3 months ago

No my current relationship is thriving lol but in the past I was dating a girl who gained 15 lbs. When I very politely asked her if she was going to start going back to the gym again, and told her that people should try to look good for each other while in relationships, she flipped. She told all her friends. Men and women were telling me I needed unconditional love. But unconditional love doesn't exist

by shaniyasipes 3 months ago

So it's a little bit different for women as you are dealing with body issues as a small child that's just how society is. I remember either reading this or watching this many many years ago and they said true love is perfectly loving and imperfect person . I hope I get to experience that.

by Anonymous 3 months ago

I'll take it a step further… love isn't real.

by Anonymous 3 months ago

Woah!

by shaniyasipes 3 months ago

I think the only unconditional love that ever exists truly would be between a parent and a child and even then it isn't always prevalent. But I don't view love that is conditional as taboo or negative. As human beings we strive in groups with others and within those groups we have to contribute. I mean it's pretty normal if you think about it. Even at a very base level, if you don't do much, there's still something you do even if it's small, for someone else.

by Schuyler69 3 months ago

You can find unconditional love in a blow-up doll.

by Maleficent-Fudge-711 3 months ago

Lmao

by shaniyasipes 3 months ago

Correct, unconditional love doesn't exist in romantic relationships, nor would you want it to, since that wouldn't be very romantic. However, unconditional love does exist in other relationships, like parent and child or friends.

by Anonymous 3 months ago