Women are equally as clueless about sex as men, amirite?

The "riding skills of a stone grinder" might be the best quote of the day

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'm pretty sure that's a bad thing but it sounds epic at the same time.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yeah everyone's clueless at first. People just need to tell each other what they like.

by BeginningSolid 1 month ago

That's the key. When we're young and experienced and don't want to admit it, we're clueless. When we're comfortable and feel safe so we feel able to talk about each other's wants and needs, we can become great.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

i like to FUUUUUUCK

by Anonymous 1 month ago

But it sure is fun. (but it sure is fun) Also applies to pimpin', if the song is to be believed.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It is if you're thinking about the other person and not just yourself.

by Ok-Athlete 1 month ago

I agree with this. When people overthink sex it's because they have some kind of expectation to be good at it and receive good sex. But if you dedicate some focus on your partner's reactions, you'll feel their skin crawl when you caress or lick places, and if you don't try to finish them quickly and learn pacing and patterns you can make them curl their toes and get a white knuckle grip on the sheets. Likewise, they can make you see stars if they return this type of consideration. Love feels better when you make it about the other person's pleasure imo

by Anonymous 1 month ago

What. You just named the biggest complication. Unless you're talking about foregoing your own pleasure entirely?

by Alone-Bend-4510 1 month ago

If i do that its definitely 3 pumps done.

by lulu31 1 month ago

But it's necessary

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Hey man, you forgot the death grip, hand jobs that feel like your dick is about to be degloved.

by Primary-Active 1 month ago

This is a terrifying image! lol

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'd really like to see a women juggle the delicate ... Balls..? Oh.. Balance.

by NoStorage 1 month ago

"Im an animal in bed" - the animals a sloth.

by lucilesporer 1 month ago

Pet me and bring me food!

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Keep going I'm almost there

by lucilesporer 1 month ago

So she screams until she gets laid?

by Jazzlike-Surround 1 month ago

Humans call it "clubbing"

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Possum

by AdorableResident 1 month ago

And those sandpaper almost-rip-dick-off-with-spine handjobs...

by Anonymous 1 month ago

That's what I say when I feel my spine is starting to crack 🤣

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Almost as bad as the two finger glide

by christopher15 1 month ago

My elementary school bully who would give me Indian burns on my forearm somehow must have taught every girl how to give hand jobs.

by ansley30 1 month ago

Yeah, OP said that

by brendonheathcot 1 month ago

Where? (Genuine)

by kay99 1 month ago

Second paragraph, "juggle the delicate balance between staying hard enough to perform, while simultaneously looking out for her pleasure but not get so excited as to cum"

by NecessarySevere 1 month ago

thats 1 person being concerned with pleasuring the other person

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It's contextual...

by CollectionFeisty 1 month ago

If we remove gender out of the picture, anybody can be horrible at sex lol

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Need me a Squelchy Rex

by Anonymous 1 month ago

What is this about?

by Boring-Objective-804 1 month ago

Of course, but the public discourse seems to disproportionately focus on one gender.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The organs gap is real, though.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I hope you meant orgasm….

by Soledad62 1 month ago

I did. Predictive text strikes again! I guess I'll leave it though.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yep. It makes one wonder…

by Soledad62 1 month ago

I don't want gaps between my organs ☹️

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yeah it is and studies show it exists even for masturbation. Most of the women who can't orgasm with a guy, also can't on their own.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

This and also the inverse is true. Women who don't experiment with themselves are much less likely to be able to orgasm during sex.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

That's a fair point. But from my perspective it's better than no orgasm because you still got some form of physical release.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

That will teach them!

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I understood, no need to further explain lol

by Anonymous 1 month ago

you guys are having sex?

by QuietPlant 1 month ago

No

by CandidateNo5575 1 month ago

As a woman, I do agree. It seems very difficult to balance all of that; I have said to my friends that thrusting looks hard and that I'd probably suck as a man lol. And agreed on riding, that's why I just stick to missionary or doggie, because I am not good at riding, and I also feel gross and awkward and ugly doing it. I do give great blowjobs though, and yes, I am confident in that, because dudes keep coming back to me for that, lol.

by Rude-Anywhere-2315 1 month ago

Thrusting is difficult. So many vids of women with strap-ons and all I can think is, that chick has got zero rhythm, she'll never make someone cum.

by Tad45 1 month ago

I don't if it's that way for every guy but a good bj feels a lot better than sex to me. Probably something about being able to just relax and not doing the work for once, also a lot more control over the friction.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

As a bisexual, I have to say men are much easier to understand how to please. I once made a guy cum in like thirty seconds from a BJ, but some take a lot longer. Riding IS hard. I actually saw an entire exercise program that was based around learning how to properly ride. It honestly looked pretty fun and informative!

by Early-Violinist 1 month ago

I find that some men are harder to ride than others… men with narrow hips, easy. My current, 6'4 and wide everywhere… it's a whole different thing.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Exactly, and if you have thick thighs, it's harder. They do make a little bouncing seat type thing that is supposed to help with riding. I've seen it on Amazon lol

by Early-Violinist 1 month ago

Same! I gave a guy head once, literally a few swirls of my tongue in, and he freaking blew it. He came so much, I had to wait a minute with his dick in my mouth before I swallowed, lol. And riding is hard and I get nothing from it.

by Rude-Anywhere-2315 1 month ago

Same but for doggy at full speed

by Anonymous 1 month ago

This. I can't w the audacity of some women, where they put in basically no effort in the bedroom yet then judge and act critical of the man's efforts.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I swear, there's a term for just lying spread out on your back doing nothing. I just can't seem to recall what it is!

by Traditional-Cheek760 1 month ago

Starfish

by Adept-Air2441 1 month ago

Look at his profile pic

by Traditional-Cheek760 1 month ago

Omg I didn't catch that lmao 😭

by Adept-Air2441 1 month ago

"Dead fish" is usually the phrase used for comparison

by New-Disk-1830 1 month ago

unsure if this is genuine but in queer communities it's a pillow princess

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Nah, it was the Patric

by Traditional-Cheek760 1 month ago

100000000x this. If you're going to give boring sex, you're going to get boring sex.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

You can be in missionary as a female and not "just lay there", and there are men who love missionary too, believe it or not. I absolutely hate cowgirl, it's hard and I feel gross and awkward and get absolutely nothing from it. In missionary, if you're talking with your partner and roughing and kissing, etc, that's not "just laying there". Just saying.

by Rude-Anywhere-2315 1 month ago

Well, yeah. Starfish isn't just about doing missionary. A good partner for a man will - start with some foreplay/light touching, use their hands, kiss the man/kiss him back, move along with the man, show interest/excitement, maybe talk, and in general just be an active participant in the situation. All of those things are fully possible with missionary or any sex position really. Starfish means the "bad" partner will not initiate or provide any foreplay, lay back, let the man kiss them and touch them but not reciprocate, not use their hands, not make any noise or show enthusiasm, and generally just "lie there."

by predovicbrad 1 month ago

A big issue, at least for me, that I also see is the lack of seduction from the female partner in a lot of relationships. I understand the complaints about a lot of men going straight for penetration without taking things slower, more romantic and seductive, all of that is fair to complain about… However, it's also fair to point out that a lot of women are always waiting for their partners to initiate and barely take the lead. I talk to a lot of friends that feel like they aren't attractive because their own girlfriends barely approach them first.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The stone grinder move is generally not an ignorance thing, it's just women trying to get some clitoral stimulation because statistically they're not going to get off from penetration. I understand guys may not like it as much but that's what's happening.

by Huge_Text 1 month ago

Hahaha Yes, as a woman, I have certainly considered this and thank my lucky stars (and everyone else's) that I don't have to worry about maintaining a boner to another person's exact specifications. I can be a demanding bitch about a lot of things but this is something that I have always been innately sensitive to for whatever reason. I dunno call me a pick me girl, but too much of the wrong kind of pressure could lead to anxiety and really tank a guys confidence and lead to a recurring issue.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I know your "stone grinder" might not be referring to actually grinding (forwards-backwards motion), but a alot of the time that's what makes ME get off. Not bouncing, which might feel and look better for the guy :))

by No-Shift4908 1 month ago

Yep! That's what feels good to us. I mean, can we have a damn minute for ourselves here? It's not all about "servicing" you, bro. And if you gave a damn about our pleasure you'd notice how much we enjoy it and find pleasure in that. There's a few moves my partner does that don't physically do a whole lot for me, but they still drive me insane just because of how intensely HE likes it.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

THIS^ OP sounds like an idiot imo.

by Brilliant-Dog 1 month ago

I think the biggest part of the problem is a lot of people see sex like a gift women give to men. If just showing up and consenting to have sex with them is a gift then why should they go above and beyond if they are already doing a "nice thing" for them. They don't think they need to try because they see consent as enough

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The worst part is that a lot of men never say what they enjoy tho. I've never had a male partner tell me how to touch him besides the times when I literally had to ask for like five times. It's like they are unable to talk about sex clearly and openly, that's scary honestly

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I think the difference is that women aren't afraid to let you know when their needs aren't being met, whereas a lot of men will put up with the most mediocre, toothy blowjobs as long as they're getting some.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I guarantee you the majority of women are just faking it and going about their lives rather than letting anyone know what their needs are. Heck most of them under 30 don't even know themselves.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Pretty true for me. I mean, I would think enjoying something like that is important to anyone, but I don't care about having it, like, at all. I barely think about it except in the context of whether I even want it. I definitely wouldn't want bad sex tho

by greenholtfranci 1 month ago

"most women" definitely can make themselves cum. i don't know a single woman who can't make themself cum, are you asking nuns only😂😂😂

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I know women who were 30 before their first O. Meanwhile I was 10. Varies WILDLY.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

A lot of them are, for sure. But I think over the last decade or so the tide has started to change, and it's not as taboo as it used to be for women to stand up for themselves when it comes to getting their O. Which honestly, I'm happy for those women! Sex is so much better when you can be open and communicate with your partner, nobody should be made to feel like they're doing it out of obligation.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

As someone who spent 11 years doing it out of obligation, I absolutely agree.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Well maybe for you but I'd say dream along with me. I'm 37 and most women in my life have said "I don't know what I like" when I ask how I can be better or understand their body better.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I think it's a generational thing tbh. Attitudes towards sex (and specifically womens' enjoyment of it) have changed a lot in the last decade or two, women in that age group grew up in a time when it wasn't as socially acceptable to openly talk about their own pleasure.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'm 37 not 57. I understand what you are saying but I think the 90 and 00's were full of sexual liberation. I just think MOST people, not just women, have trouble expressing themselves sexually.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Unhinged take. Women are way less likely to communicate things like that than dudes, most of them have the expectation that the dudes are "just supposed to know"

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Honestly, I think part of it is because it feels like guys don't care or let their egos get in a way. A lot of men feel like they should know exactly how it works because it maybe has in the past. I've had partners complain about me not finishing from penetration after I've given a step by step guide. I've told partners exactly where to target, but they let their muscle memory take over and think they know everything and get angry when I move their head back to the right spot.

by Alternative_Hall 1 month ago

Unpopular, not sure. But as a man, I don't care. If she's willing, that is enough. If I'm not hitting it right, I'll figure that out quick and change up the game a bit. It's just plain curtesy to make sure she's getting in on fun. No two women are the same. Of course, if you are just focused on yourself, you're probably closer to those stereotypes than you'd like.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

"the riding skills of a stone grinder" You must be a poet.

by No-Pea6659 1 month ago

I think the main difference is that (most) men are just easier to satisfy, so the woman doesn't have to put a whole lot of effort to make him finish. Women on the other hand only finish like 40% of the time in heterosexual sex. So it takes more effort, therefore more complaints. Women tend to have far more orgasms when they hook up with other women, so often it's a lack of effort/knowledge on the guy's part. Not totally the fault of guys either because women's bodies just work differently, but it means you have to take more time to learn about this stuff.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The difference being that a man will likely climax either way whereas a woman won't because their partner is unskilled.

by Clair11 1 month ago

A woman won't because many women don't know how to get themselves off. I'm a pelvic therapist. I was shocked my second day as a student when a female patient asked why men don't care to get women off and she complained about her husband. I asked if she taught him how to do whatever she does tog et herself off. She never had an orgasm, even alone, because she never tried masturbation. She just figured it was 100% a man's job. She got some homework assigned fast: go home and figure herself out before complaining about others.

by Kayleigh50 1 month ago

Just because I "climaxed" doesn't mean it felt good. It's an automatic physiological response but the intensity of the pleasure is HIGHLY dependent on other factors.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

To be real, I've never gone for more than 10 minutes. Riding the balance is real (though OP seems a little frustrated) and for any women wondering, masturbation doesn't help "train" guys to last longer. Sometimes I'm in the perfect state and can give a great performance. Sometimes it's tricky to get started. Sometimes I feel like busting way too soon which isn't something you can really reel in.

by No-Mobile-9768 1 month ago

I've never even spoken to a girl in my entire life.

by bogisichmargie 1 month ago

I understand what you're saying and here's a question that popped into my mind as I was reading. If women are equally as clueless about sex as men and they're stone grinders (that one took me out btw 😂) why are a lot of men so heavily pressed about having sex?

by ReadyMolasses 1 month ago

That's uhm concerning

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yea but at least you came…a lot of women aren't. And even if she didn't do a "good" job, does it not have to feel good to some degree to get you there? Genuine question

by Electrical_Many9718 1 month ago

Men (and women!) can ejaculate/orgasm when sexually assaulted, but that doesn't mean it felt good. It's more like a natural reply from your body because it's being stimulated to do so. Like how your hands get warm when you rub them together.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'd really like to see a women juggle the delicate balance between staying hard enough to perform, while simultaneously looking out for her pleasure but not get so excited as to cum and keep that up for 15min+ and then still be able to finish. It's not that difficult. Not if you are really enjoying what you are doing. You make sex sound like a chore for guys.

by SadMemory1926 1 month ago

How many guys here have ever been with a lady that could give a good handy? Now,understand,even a vicious too much teeth blowjob can work,as in no such thing as a bad blowjob. But rarely ,and no matter how many times you try to guide them,no woman can give a decent handjob.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'm incredibly glad I'm a lesbian cause yall make hetro sex sound like such a chore 😭 like do yall not give any feedback to your partners? Do you just expect your partner (that doesn't even have the same genitalia as you) to inherently understand the intricacies of your pleasure? I promise yall would like sex more if you just talked to each other

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I think this might generally be true. But it's one of those things were men are expected to be able to give women pleasure, while the woman just laying back and receiving it is considered good enough. It's why you hear about pillow princesses but never pillow princes.

by Cautious-Hope5226 1 month ago

Generally during sex do you think men or women orgasm more often? I don't know if men are not receiving pleasure from sex.

by lehnermoriah 1 month ago

You hear about pillow princess and not princes because it's a term for lesbians, not straight people. The terms you're looking for are "starfish" and "dead fish." Words have meaning

by Alternative_Hall 1 month ago

I think we can all agree we're just happy to be there🤷‍♂️

by kmohr 1 month ago

Amen

by Anonymous 1 month ago

this guy sexs

by Anonymous 1 month ago

This is why sex education is important and only teaching one sex about their own sex and nothing about the other is outdated and awful and a benefit to literally nobody

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yea most of that is just practice tho and learning your partner. The clit is literally in the same spot for every vagina and you should really be able to last more than 5 minutes.

by ExaminationCold7650 1 month ago

You forgot to mention the ones who lay there like a tranqilised mattress.

by Cassandralangwo 1 month ago

That right there is why them gays got it all figured out, man. Experience with the equipment.

by Mauricio11 1 month ago

I was having sex with my girl and I basically had you hold her hand through the entire experience lol

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I wanna hold her hand too Funny ass typo

by StruggleNegative5879 1 month ago

Communication is key, in and out of bed.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I once had a girl who didn't know you were actually supposed to suck. Like just kinda put her lips around and went up and down.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Well it's not called a suckjob. Be glad she didn't take it literally.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

well those things you pointed out are usually more of a skill issue than a knowledge issue tho lol whereas some men actually dont know female anatomy

by Denesikcaitlyn 1 month ago

A lot of them anyway.

by Street-Swing 1 month ago

The amount of times I've had to explain to a girl that I've enjoyed it despite not being able to finish, because if I prioritize my own pleasure I'd be done too fast for their approval, and now it's gone on so long that I can't finish, and doubly so if wearing a condom that dulls the sensation after a while… I've gotten ghosted for not finishing

by Leilaniblanda 1 month ago

Doesn't mean it felt good

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Doubtful. They just give her a bit to soothe the ego and switch to hitting it

by Damorepeggie 1 month ago

Tell me you're bad at sex without telling me you're bad at sex

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It's not just about reaching orgasm but ok!

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I could flop around like a dying fish too

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It just sounds like you and your partners having communicated what you like. Not judging, most people don't properly talk to their partners about it. But we all should be more open about what feels good in our own bodies so we can find ways to have sex that are pleasurable for everyone involved.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I think why it's not as known of an issue is that women frankly have clearer objectives. And most men go by the pizza mentality where "even if it's bad, it's still pretty good". Like the one instance where we're more appreciative lol.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Equally? More clueless and low effort

by Alexandreamohr 1 month ago

Some of them french kiss so aggressive and sloppy. I don't need to gag on your tongue, weirdo.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Only ever had 1 toothy BJ. It was awkward and awful lol I said watch your teeth like 5 times before I gave up and left.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I concur. I shy away from relations with girls that I don't know or don't have experience with because brudda, teeth down there HURT.

by Sad_Signal 1 month ago

there are other ways to please a partner

by Anonymous 1 month ago

My partner and I have really only experienced anything interesting or good with eachother because we clicked... so anything before that was highschool bs that wasn't ever good in any way lol 💀 Our sex life has always been good through many trials and tribulations, so im sorry some of yall have had to settle for less. That's BS.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Isn't the clitoris that big ass red dog?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

They don't even know how their own body works lmao. They just toss their ignorance for you to figure it out.

by martinahauck 1 month ago

Probably not an unpopular opinion from any guy who has gotten a hand job from a girl.

by Moorerafael 1 month ago

Women: "Omg guys can never find the clit" A dick after a woman's handjob: __/\__/

by No-Heat 1 month ago

Being clueless about sex has nothing to do with gender, it has to do with experience, education, and personal interest in becoming less clueless. Why are people so obsessed with gender breakdowns of every little thing. It's reminds me of people taking astrology like a religion. Like yeah, every human born in January has the same traits. Glad we figured that out and can move on.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

You're saying "the starfish" isn't a pro move?

by jerome98 1 month ago

Some ppl can't find the clit nor know what to do with it? It is not that difficult. But I guess I am the kind of fella who's just rly into seeing how much "happier" I can make my partner. And I expect the partner mirror that attitude (which usually lacks quite a bit… lul…).

by Vern73 1 month ago

I'd say my riding is more comparable to that of a 2000 manual civic, bumpy and unreliable at best, but still gets you around.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Communication is key, for anyone you are with

by Familiar_Fault 1 month ago