+46 Veganism is just flat out dumb. amirite?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It's not about the food chain. Humans don't interact with the "food chain" like that anymore. It's more about sustainability, the environment, and treatment of animals.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Hate when people bring up the food chain argument, because it's invalid. The food chain doesn't include hamburgers.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

does it include steak tho? Other animals also eat cow...

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Pretty sure the tiger would have made a hamburger out of its hunted deer if it could.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Pretty sure the point is that it can't

by Financial-While1944 1 month ago

All my favorite foods are either unstainable or involve animal cruelty. Foie gras, caviar, salmon, crab, tuna. I don't know what they do to my prosciutto before I get it, but it takes a least 40 months. Who knows what they've done.

by kennedyweissnat 1 month ago

Some misconceptions, here: vegans choose to abstain from animal products on ethical grounds, not like they have some misbelief that they're herbivores...?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

There are many reasons for veganism, ethics is just one of them. It know a vegan who is one for health reasons.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Technically, veganism is the term for the philosophy, and so is inherently tied to ethics. Your friend happens to have a plant based, or strict vegetarian diet. It's an academic distinction usually, but you could see a difference in things like wool. If someone is vegan, proper, they'd be opposed, while someone on a plant based diet doesn't necessarily have any commitments against it.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No it isn't

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Wow, that makes sense, really corrected me there. Thanks!

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No worries. Try not to make stuff up next time

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Why would you not use a dictionary to check the definition of the word? Really confused here my man

by Anonymous 1 month ago

What health benefits are there to veganism?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Well, the majority of the vegans I've met were just attention seekers, in the same vibe as the kids who claim they ARE ADHD (they don't suffer from it, THEY ARE) just because they don't pay attention to their professors.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Lol, talk about an attention seekers... We certainly found one here!

by Batzlyla 1 month ago

I love when people use anecdotal evidence to attack entire groups of people. On the plus side you have gotten attention from three people with your attacks on ADHD and vegans, so I guess your attention seeking is paying off my guy.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Those 2 things are definitely mutually exclusive.

by CamelTerrible7568 1 month ago

Then why do they try and constantly argue their nutrition is better?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Some extremists are trying convince people were are herbivores "or else we could eat meat raw". There are weirdos in every demographic.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Agreed, I just mentioned they exist

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Some extremists eat meat raw No, they don't. They take steroids and lie about it.

by kennedyweissnat 1 month ago

Yeah, but they forget one important thing, herbivores do not process their food, they eat it raw, the cows eat the grass raw they don't clean it or boil it, so their argument is extremely stupid and dumb

by Anonymous 1 month ago

You out here boiling bananas ?

by Sweet_Wish 1 month ago

Okay go on, eat it whole, don't u dare peel it!

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Like monkeys do in nature?

by Sweet_Wish 1 month ago

No like horses doing in nature, just try it first don't talk

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The reason for us to what we're doing is the ability of higher thinking, the logical thinking, we are by far superior to any other animal or organism on earth. We are using that ability to process things and figure things out, so the food also falls in the category of processing, and since we are tolerant to meat and vegetables there's absolutely no reason abstaining from them.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

why are we getting DV'ed over sharing our personal experience lmao

by Anonymous 1 month ago

They don't like people acknowledging things lol

by Anonymous 1 month ago

agreed. while i see what OC is saying cuz that's why most people are vegan, i have def seen some of them say our bodies aren't even meant to digest meat lol

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yep I was told if we were supposed to eat meat are digestive track would look like a lions it was just silly

by kaitlinprohaska 1 month ago

Actually our bodies are not meant to digest plants. Our stomach acid is that of carnivores and we don't digest fibre from plants. We just s..t it out.

by lavonne18 1 month ago

interesting, tell that to the vegans lol šŸ˜… sorry, just not sure if the "actually" is there bc you think i believe we're not meant to digest meat or if you're just adding to what i had to say lol

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Just added to your text...

by lavonne18 1 month ago

If they want to find out how ethical nature is, just go and try to swim with a croc šŸŠ . Spoiler: they are vegans too, nothing happens to you šŸ¤”

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I think a lot of humans have come to conclusion that we as humans can have ethics and can therefore make ethical choices rather than resort solely to base animal instincts.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

We have caused more damage to this planet than crocs for sure

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yes, and veganism is about causing less damage

by Anonymous 1 month ago

They probably killed dinosaurs.

by EngineeringOrnery792 1 month ago

So you believe that we should base our ethics on what other animals do? Not on the choices that are available to us as humans?

by Sufficient_Zebra 1 month ago

What a stupid thing to say

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'm not vegan, but you don't understand it. It's not about arguing against nature, it's not about ignoring humans dietary needs. It's about making an ethical choice to not eat food that comes from animal suffering. There are alternatives to meat. You can still have protein. Animals eating other animals doesn't factor into it. Humans have ethics. Animals do not. We in many ways no longer live like animals.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It's not flat out dumb. I'm not a vegan but I can understand it, some people just don't want to have a negative impact on certain aspects of this world. In the case of veganism it's not wanting to be part of mass animal slaughter which is fair enough.

by Special-Lock 1 month ago

This. I hate viewpoints like OPs which are so narrow and take zero consideration as to why others might live those lifestyles or live that way. "Hurr, humans are omnivores, so that makes veganism dumb."

by Prestigious-Job 1 month ago

To be honest with you, i respect that. Im just making leads off of Vegan protests and Tiktokers that pretty much harass Minimum wage workers.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I mean we wear clothes, we don't get mad when animals don't wear clothes. We aren't supposed to wear clothes. I think this relies on specially on people who have very specific beliefs for their veganism.

by Embarrassed_Let 1 month ago

We are supposed to wear clothes because our fur is almost non-existent

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I hate to break it to you, but humans are animals and humans evolved to wear clothing just like we're evolved to eat cooked foods.

by Far-Birthday-5614 1 month ago

as a species yeah but you're being highly ignorant of equal access to food being a financial issue that isn't solved for millions of people.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Am I being highly ignorant of that? I said humans are the only animals that CAN, I didn't say all humans are able to

by Sweet_Wish 1 month ago

Funny mentioning that, i just replied to a guy talking about a theory about eating meat got us to today.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Today's not that great a place to be

by Sweet_Wish 1 month ago

By Technology advancement. Not by Politics or Our Current genoration.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Politics and our current generation are profundly tied to technology - or don't you think the internet changed things?

by Sweet_Wish 1 month ago

Specifically gens alphas fate, and with Stuff like Particle accelators and Someone somehow figuring out a secret on the internet.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Can you please tell me how eating meat got us to the Hadron Collider?

by Jmonahan 1 month ago

To be honest, Anything can lead to anything. A couple times Me and some friends of mine watch something and before (for like an hour) we just talk and my friend is making a song on FL Studio and we focused on watching the video. The video in question, Nintendo Direct 3/27/2025

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Even as a child I didn't eat meat because I hated it. Why should I eat meat just because strangers eat it? If I have no say in what other people eat, why should anyone have a say in what I eat?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Ignore OP and the haters. Meat eaters often like to scream at vegans for being loudmouth problem makers, but in reality, I find many of us treat our burgers like a religion, and you are challenging our chosen diety. We can be just as insufferable as we claim vegans are.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Iā€˜m not vegan, but people like animals so they don't eat them, shouldn't be that much of a foreign concept

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I really want to pull the death card but its 2AM where i am rn.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

What?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Don't you understand? He wants to pull the death card! Watch out!!!

by Anonymous 1 month ago

OMG THE DEATH CARD?!?!?!?! NOT THAT!!!! But Suprise, I HAVE COUNTERSPELL!!!!

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I look at this opinion the same way I do Vegans that want to judge me for my habits. Mind your own business and don't yuck someones yum. Also, while most vegans will acknowledge that humans are traditionally omnivours they will point out we have evolved to the point where we can decide to alter our course for ethical reasons. Animals in the wild CANNOT. That is why. Your argument is wrong.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

"Yea officer, you leave my dog fighting ring alone! Don't yuck someone's yum!"

by Anonymous 1 month ago

All general statements can be faulted if you dig deep enough. If you cannot understand the difference between stating leave vegans be VS supporting dog fighting then you are intentionally being daft.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

What's the difference?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Whats the difference between defending vegans right to a non animal diet vs a dogfighting ring...... you want me to define the difference........ what?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

dude clearly has no solid argument drawing at straws to compare these in the slightest in regard to ethics.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yes. What's the ethical difference between a dog fighting ring and eating meat?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Onus is on you to draw a valid comparison here. Not on others to prove a negative.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

How is a nutritious diet to survive "unnecessary sensory enjoyment"? To begin with. What makes you think humans don't deserve enjoyment? Should we all just become monks and hate our lifes?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

For your first point: Vegans survive without, no? Doesn't that prove it to be unnecessary! For your second: does that not apply to the dog fighting ring, too? In which case the parallel holds.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Oh, also my statement was not generally applied, it was very specifically used to describe veganism vs omnivore diets. So you are wrong on two accounts, good job!

by Anonymous 1 month ago

"Ha, GOTCHA! I wasn't being a hypocrite, I just have a different code of ethics for this very specific situation, you Fool!"~ you

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Oh, you don't know what a vegan is. No wonder you have this opinion

by Flatleyedward 1 month ago

Im using logic when i talk about stuff like this.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

What do you think Veganism is?

by Flatleyedward 1 month ago

No meat. (Vegitarianism) No meat or Dairy (Veganism) im mainly just mad on their protests on transitioning. (Specifically with V-Gan Bootay back in 2020-1)

by Anonymous 1 month ago

yes and no. veganism can be a choice to many, yet some people are not capable of processing meat and for those this is the way they HAVE to live. my friend is one and used to eat meat until she was a young kid and, along with many other disorders and chronic illnesses that came, her body no longer was able to process meat so she had to remove it from her diet altogether. the loudest vegans are always the most annoying, same with any group and it unfortunately gives vegans a bad rep when there can be legitimate reasons it is needed for someone to adhere to

by Anonymous 1 month ago

As a vegetarian, I'll say this is a bit overdone. Have you ever listened to bros and old men wax on about smokers and barbecue? Vegans are no worse than that. Listening to the debate about who has the best barbecue just makes me wonder when an asteroid can hit us.

by jarodrutherford 1 month ago

no, i agree. like i said, the loudest of any group is always the most annoying and obnoxious about whatever it is theyre about. people can do what they wish and if thats to go off about smokers? or go off about plant consumption? be my guest, it does not effect me until they think like OP does and belittle anothers choice in their life. unless that specific person in their life who is say vegan is being obnoxious about it then theres no reason to actually care. internet people are not in their everyday lives and the power button is right there to power off, go outside, and realize this is not even a problem to care about in the personal sense.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

One of my beloved cousins is vegan. She spends all day every day cooking or looking for vegan recipes. She used to be vegetarian, but decided that wasn't good enough. She's always looking for food that isn't meat, but tastes like meat.

by General-Item264 1 month ago

Don't think vegans actually suggest that we're herbivores incapable of eating meat, just that we don't have to eat meat and so we shouldn't. Animals in the wild eat meat because that's literally what they have to eat, but there's very few instances where you've been required to eat pork or chicken over a vegetable. You're not a wild animal: you're choosing to eat meat. And from there it's just that they don't want to take part in the mass suffering of animals solely for the sake of getting a tasty meal. Seems pretty straightforward and correct, even as I'm cooking pork.

by mcglynnnicholau 1 month ago

Astronauts take plant seeds not animal embryos into space.

by Purdyenola 1 month ago

Because it may harm The systems of the satilite/base

by Anonymous 1 month ago

For research, not to grow food.

by Sufficient_Zebra 1 month ago

It's another thing abstaining from meat, dairy and fish because of some religious beliefs and way different is they're doing because humans aren't meant for to eat these foods, the first category is sane and follows a religious belief while the second are lunatics , crazy ppl.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Humans are unique on their hunting strategies.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Its not mainly that, its the protests and stuff.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

You're rjght. We should put to jail animals that attack other animals. Fair trial, followed by prison.

by Jmonahan 1 month ago

:I u serious.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Sure. I wanna be fair, I don't eat meat so I won't approve of animals doing it.

by Jmonahan 1 month ago

Ok this is getting out of hand, ITS NOT VEGANISM IN GENERAL, ITS THE ENCOURAGEMENT OF VEGANISM IS DUMB

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'm not vegan but being vegan doesn't mean they necessarily approve of other animals eating each other. Most of the time, that choice is a personal one. It's because THEY don't want to contribute to any of that. Some don't care about the animal aspect in terms of them eating each other and some do but even then what would you have them do? Some don't mind about animals eating each other cause that's simply nature. I wouldn't call it dumb but SOME vegans are extreme. My only issue with vegans or vegetarians is when they try to make me feel like I've committed a crime against humanity. I'll hear them out sometimes, but don't try to shame me for my own personal diet choices. I respect their decision as long as they respect mind.

by Less_Cauliflower 1 month ago

You agree that they see it as an ethical atrocity. So, why are you annoyed that they see you as committing an ethical attricity? Wouldn't it be weirder for them to say "yea, he's inflicting suffering beyond comprehension, but his choice I guess"?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'm not annoyed they see it that way but it's annoying for them to shove it in my face and try to make me feel lesser than. It's not all vegans but some. Having beliefs shoved down your throat isn't cool regardless of what you believe. Not sure why you can't understand how people disrespecting you over personal dietary decisions is an issue.

by Less_Cauliflower 1 month ago

You seem to be arguing that "it's an issue because it's annoying". I'm sure it is annoying. However, why does that make it an issue? Telling someone not to litter is probably pretty annoying for them too, does that make it problematic to do so?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

TLDR: Is it rude to tell people to not litter?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No? But that's not the same thing as what were talking about. Use relevant examples instead of whatever that is and actually read my statements.

by Less_Cauliflower 1 month ago

I don't think it's irrelevant... why is it different? Someone is doing something that you consider to be unethical in a way that impacts more than just themselves. You claim it's not an "issue" to annoy them about it, why is that different than meat?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I mean I'm not vegan but by no means is it flat out dumb. Pushing on everyone as the healthiest thing is definitely dumb though

by reecefritsch 1 month ago

Thats what i was trying to say. Its 2am where i am and i cant sleep.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Every person has different needs and ideally we shouldn't hurt animals and we are most definitely doing it totally wrong, and being in everyone's faces about it just makes them disagree without thinking because deep down they know the way we farm animals is wrong. It's a way to teach a lack of empathy. No surprise the world is the way it is currently.

by reecefritsch 1 month ago

It's not dumb per se, it's just yet another privilege that rich westerners got

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I agree with you only because veganism is often feels so arbitrary. It's not unethical to eat eggs if you know the chickens are humanely raised. It's not unethical to have dairy either if humanely raised. I'm not talking about commercial farms. I'm talking about going to your local farmers market, meeting a producer, going to tour the farm and see if it's actually ethical. To not eat nutritious foods that are ethically sourced is arbitrary and dumb imho. But the fact that these people will also have pets who will eat animal products (because cats and dogs have to) seems even more arbitrary. Everyone's entitled to live their own life and there is always someone judging someone else for how you choose to eat, educate their children, birth plans, how you drive, how you dress and basically how you live your life. So imho live and let live. But I still think any diet that's this extreme isn't sustainable by most people and is honestly kind of silly.

by Far-Birthday-5614 1 month ago

Sadly they don't approve of other animals eating each other which is why some of the try and make their cats vegan too.

by kaitlinprohaska 1 month ago

That is why I said some not all

by kaitlinprohaska 1 month ago

I know. Just reinforcing that for the (many) people who assume based on the most extreme stereotypes.

by VariousExtension 1 month ago

That means the term "My body My rules" are useless.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

They don't? Like all of them? Or is it just a plain general statement with no weight?

by Jmonahan 1 month ago

Why don't you try reading. It's says right there some of them not all.

by kaitlinprohaska 1 month ago

And based on one example you judge the group as a whole? That's not too smart.

by Jmonahan 1 month ago

Veganism is dumb, but you have it all wrong, it's not because they believe that we CANNOT eat meat, it's that they believe that we SHOULDN'T eat meat. Everyone and their mother knows we can consume nearly everything that is inside an animal. Some people just don't think that we should.

by Lost_Calligrapher 1 month ago

Tell me you didn't do your research without telling me you didn't do your research.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Almost all grains and soya crops grown are fed to animals to provide meat to a tiny amount of humans - that same land could be used to just grow crops to feed humans at 10x efficiency

by Sweet_Wish 1 month ago

What? Are you saying that a plant based diet is more ecologically damaging than a meat based one?

by jarodrutherford 1 month ago

no. I;m saying that a lot of what they consume (more than meat eaters) often comes with deforastation and animal suffering. Only way to be truly vegan, IMO, is if you grown your own stuff in your garden.

by Any_Scale4758 1 month ago

Where do you think the feed for animal agriculture comes from?

by Sufficient_Zebra 1 month ago

He really is. Because he doesn't understand how farming works.

by Sufficient_Zebra 1 month ago

That would ruin the food chain

by Anonymous 1 month ago

As long as they don't try to enforce theyr views on me they can eat whatever they want to eat. Doesn't change anything for me. My problem starts once they start trying to enforce it on me. Which sadly alot of em do. I mostly just ask how cute an animal has to be before it requires "saving" from them and they mostly shut up.

by Weary_Director 1 month ago

Why would that line work on vegans? They'd say any animal is worth saving, no?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

There's the ongoing debate that eating meat is the reason our brains evolved to where we are now. If that is true, I do find it ironic that meat made our brains grow and allow us to make choices, like deciding eating meat is wrong.

by ConnectHelp7862 1 month ago

I wanna say something here but that would prob get me cancelled. (Im serious btw)

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Well, eating meat might have allowed our brains to evolve to where we are now, for sure. One interesting side effect of that evolution was that we mastered nature enough to produce enough carbs, fats and protein to keep our large and energy-hungry brains without eating animals.

by Sufficient_Zebra 1 month ago

I think for anyone who is not a vegan, this is a pretty popular opinion. Now pass the chicken.

by Slow-Onion-7796 1 month ago

Nope, I'm not a vegan. But I understand the different arguments for it and find them somewhat valid.

by Sufficient_Zebra 1 month ago

Vegans are a joke. Stupid life decision, horrible for health, loser mentality.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Not unpopular sorry.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

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by Anonymous 1 month ago