We should try anarchy, amirite?

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by Anonymous 1 month ago

Haiti is kind of in anarchy right now

by Emotional-Craft 1 month ago

Very true, and look how many want to get out of there? Because the strongest and most hardened are in control, and it's become a very dangerous place. OP acts like this hasn't been tried and failed, even the oldest of our civilizations had laws, and consequences for breaking them.

by Eleanoragrady 1 month ago

Do you live in haiti?

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Why is that relevant

by flesch 1 month ago

To have an opinion from there

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Not really

by flesch 1 month ago

Wdym not really

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

You can have an opinion about Haiti without having to live there actually

by flesch 1 month ago

Yeah but it's better to have one from someone living there

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

How do you know

by flesch 1 month ago

Wdym how do I know

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

So... Communism?

by GooseAffectionate 1 month ago

Yes, actual communism according to the theory.

by Bblanda 1 month ago

😅😅😅 It doesn't work. Maybe move to North Korea or Russia and let us know how it goes.

by GooseAffectionate 1 month ago

Oh I know that, I was just correcting because the OP was clearly wrong

by Bblanda 1 month ago

No worries at all. What OP is describing, whether they know it or not, is the mythological end stage of Communism, the "withering away of the state", where once we've massively expanded the size and power of the government to make sure everyone is equal, the government will just kinda go away quietly on its own.

by Bblanda 1 month ago

What does Russia have to do with communism? It's an oligarchy, like the US is becoming.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No, the state would have the power, anarchy is everybody has it!

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

This would just lead to the most dangerous and violent being in power

by Elyseryan 1 month ago

No because everyone else will go against them

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Like how America is rising up against their violent masters now?

by ParticularTop7521 1 month ago

America isn't an anarchy, which is the problem. People are relying on politicians to think for them and make decisions for them, rather than participating. Trump is what you get when you fetishize hierarchies.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Are they?

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

They are not. So what makes you think they will under a different system of government?

by ParticularTop7521 1 month ago

We should try it! Maybe it'll work! But as you said, it's not working right now!

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

That isn't how it goes down. "Everyone else" lives in fear. Look at history.

by Elyseryan 1 month ago

Sure, even though that has literally never been the case in any anarchist society ever.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Thank you for knowing the historical context!

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Do we consider extreme anything that has 1 or 0 ruler?

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Yeah it doesn't matter on the amount of rulers, it's about politics/ ideas and the extent of change

by Keeblerbenjamin 1 month ago

So wanting to give the power to everyone is extreme?

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Yes?

by Keeblerbenjamin 1 month ago

Ok

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

What about smaller groups? Like around 1000 people

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

As an Anarchist I also agree.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

We already did

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Not we as humankind, we as [insert country you currently live in]

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

"Decisions are made as a group" What about the day to day functions of government? Funding people's disability, transporting money, filling pot holes, writing people speeding tickets? The citizenry at large will get pooled together to make decisions on each one of those actions?

by destinirohan 1 month ago

No, but they will be pulled together to make rules that are then to be followed.

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

And when they aren't?

by destinirohan 1 month ago

Then the group applies a punishment

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

My guy, you're reinventing a regular government.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yes, anarchy is a form of government

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

And how do you propose to actually implement this? Even at a small scale, say a town of 10,000 people, how would that actually work? How do they make decisions ‘as a group' when the group is that large? How and by whom are rules and decisions implemented and enforced? How are all the smaller decisions needed for the day-to-day operation of this made, and by whom?

by Practical_Reveal 1 month ago

Make the groups smaller and the day-to-day decisions are already discussed or a compromise is settled

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Enlighten me

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

we should try anarchy describes a democracy

by flesch 1 month ago

That's a Republic

by flesch 1 month ago

Ok mb, but still: in a democracy, there's still a group of people in power

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Right, they're called the people Unless you mean to say the people we delegate decision making too, which I don't see a way around, unless your anarchist society wants to make every minute decision decided upon by committee

by flesch 1 month ago

Not every minute decision lol

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Why not

by flesch 1 month ago

Wdym why not

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Idk I'm asking you

by flesch 1 month ago

Why not what

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

BuT wHaT iF bAd gUYs?? U waNt BiG stroNK pOlicE tO hiT tHe BaDdiEs!!

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Everyone is the police

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Politicians are often portrayed as dumber than they actually are. This is part of the political game. The people wouldn't be any wiser.

by No-Reindeer 1 month ago

It sounded like you weren't happy with the current political system (in which politicians apparently decide everything) and you would like to let the people decide everything. Sounds good, but only in theory. By the way, what you're describing is closer to our democracy than to anarchy.

by No-Reindeer 1 month ago

it doesnt work.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Any elaboration?

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Reading your title alone and not your explanation, I'd say we have.

by ContentPear9156 1 month ago

And reading my explanation?

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

LibLeft will always be the silliest political quadrant

by Bblanda 1 month ago

And authright the stupidest

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago

Not my personal inclination, but at the very least it's been tested in the real world and been proven to function. And a couple of communes that lasted a month or two before collapsing does not count as "tested in the real world".

by Bblanda 1 month ago

Function very poorly

by kirlindemetrius 1 month ago