There is no ethical breeding of any bully breed, amirite?

Someone around the corner from where I live started breeding them a year or so ago. Huge sign on their lawn, big dog pen in their yard. I cringe every time I drive by. "Easter puppies! Christmas puppies!"

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Really should be against the law.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

This but for brachycephalic breeds.

by Odd-Watercress 1 month ago

Unpopular because I don't know what that means.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Scrunched faced breeds: the compressed face leads to breathing problems and other health issues.

by Joneslon 1 month ago

I agree with that too.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

*But also for brachycephalic breeds

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I agree. I love pugs so much I want to help them <3

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yeah to me this makes more sense than pits, these dogs are born unhealthy and never can be really. OP is also failing to realize how many pits are the results of ownerless dogs breeding on their own, I have adopted many in the city I live in over the years and it's been more common to find a dog like that than one that is bred

by raleighmacejkov 1 month ago

Good point

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Bully breeding is unethical because their hips are misshapen, making them extremely prone to injury and problems as they age. They literally can't even jump on the couch without getting injured, not even at 2-3 years old. If you have stairs, forget about it.

by Lehnerclotilde 1 month ago

I had no idea ethics were rooted in well-shaped hips.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The hips don't lie

by Anonymous 1 month ago

"It's aaaall in the hips"

by Future-Candidate-803 1 month ago

To be fair, a lot of purebred breeds have hip issues. I used to show dogs and every single dog I showed had some kind of hip problem.

by Annual-Exchange 1 month ago

I mean it's not nearly as common as other pit breeds. The way bullies hips are shaped, combined with the weight they pack on (tubby, beefy, muscular dogs) it's a recipe for disaster. It's just too much weight for their small hips. Pitbulls just aren't meant to be shaped like bulldogs. It's a fundamentally flawed mix.

by Lehnerclotilde 1 month ago

It's ethical when the breeding goal is to reverse the problems, like is being done for french bulldogs now. I dont know if that is possible for pitbulls

by Cultural-Chance 1 month ago

I agree with that. I hope those poor Frenchies can be helped. Poor angels can't breath.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Dog people are sick in the head, dogs have been destroyed because human nature is evil.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Dogs have been created because humans

by No_Conversation_1471 1 month ago

Meddling humans

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Lol the clouds too damn clouds.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

But you talk about how shelters are overflowing with dogs, so why do we even need any kind of breeders? There are no shortage of dogs in general, we don't need to create more dogs on purpose.

by Agreeable_Figure9503 1 month ago

I mean dog breeding in general can be kind of unethical to dogs due to genetic issues, but it's kind of also unethical to humans and animals to keep breeding dogs that are particularly good at hurting others. We don't need to preserve most breeds at all really, they aren't a species they are a result of human intervention. It's not like a wild animal going totally extinct.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

This but literally all purebred dog breeding. There isn't really a pure bred breed in existence that doesn't have health complications due to its breeding

by Alternative-Face-861 1 month ago

Dogs have no place in human settlements. They are not man's best friends… I stand on this.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yeah that's definitely more unpopular than my opinion.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The problem may not be with the breeding of the dogs, it maybe with the potential owners. How many people actually understand the needs and responsibility it takes to raise a well rounded dog, let alone a pit or pit mix. Extra food, exercise, training. Most (I'm generalizing, I know) probably only get pits for the status symbol they represent, and once its out of the puppy stage, the real work has to begin, and they didnt sign up for that. I personally think people should have to get licensed and tested to own pets. Weed out the wack jobs, posers, and status symbol reachers. If there wasnt a demand for them, the breeders could curtail the supply.

by Wide-Anxiety 1 month ago

You'd better cite your sources because they seem like imaginary numbers to me.

by Rathfelicia 1 month ago

You can check any county shelter website and look at the dogs. I'm being hyperbolic with 90% but it's the overwhelming majority.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Thats also due to anything with a wide head that doesnt look partial hound being called a pit mix, id be willing to bet most shelters have less actual pits than bully mixes. Beyond that the dogs dont get to choose how or why they are bred, so the whole "dont buy a dog from someone who breeds poorly" sounds great but were still just abandoning those dogs to shelters by not giving them the time.

by Important-Price 1 month ago

the whole "dont buy a dog from someone who breeds poorly" sounds great but were still just abandoning those dogs to shelters by not giving them the time So your solution is for people to just keep getting them, therefore promoting further breeding of these abominations?

by zhahn 1 month ago

Why don't you cite your sources even if 90%+ is hyperbolic?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

"Every shelter", "no reason whatsoever to breed these dogs", "zero sense", "completely unethical". Have you considered that what you're experiencing is probably a local phenomenon? I just checked my local shelter list and there's literally 0 pit-adjacent breeds in there.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

That site you're linking has non-American IPs banned or something. Idk. Can't access it.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Ohhhh okay yeah I'm talking about US shelters specifically.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Because I am using my own experience of searching for a dog to adopt. And the dogs at shelters are mostly pit mixes. I'm not searching stats, I'm using my own lived experience.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

So you're using your personal experience to make universal claims about what the world is like everywhere. This is why you're not sharing sources. Alright

by Anonymous 1 month ago

That's a lot of words for "I don't bring my animals to the vet".

by bruenedgar 1 month ago

I bring my dog to the vet i didn't spend 2 grand on animal for it to have health problems

by Anonymous 1 month ago

You bring your dog to the vet with "no paperwork"? How does that work?

by bruenedgar 1 month ago

Well you set up an appointment and say hey i have this bread of a dog and you go to the vet and pay them. Asides from that the only thing ive had to do is report the dog to insurance company for liability reasons.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Again, you clearly don't bring your animals to the vet. The vet needs immunization records. Did they get a rabies shot? Distemper? When was the last shot? Are they microchipped? If you don't have any paperwork, then you aren't going to the vet.

by bruenedgar 1 month ago

Would does one breed get to survive over another? Who decided that... We don't need dogs for anything anymore, technology replaced them 100's of years ago. There's no practical reason to keep any dog. Why should a bully (a breed 100's of years old) get wiped out because of the type of people that breed them. Shall we wipe out drug addicts and people on benefits because they provide nothing for us?

by Ericagrant 1 month ago

I love staffies and would love a litter for my boy to keep one before he passes, but I know there's a good chance some would end up in a shelter so I couldn't bring myself to do it

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Breeding needs to be illegal. Shelters should be the only option.

by Anonymous 1 month ago