People don't hate kids. They hate parents who act like appeasers. amirite?

Some people definitely hate kids. I don't know why they lump them all together as these awful miniature beings but they do. But I think most rational people recognize that the actually awful kids are a reflection of awful parenting and plenty of good kids do exist. Maybe it comes down to a lack of patience and/or empathy. Even the best behaved kids have moments where they'll really drive you nuts but so do most, if not all, adults.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Agreed, the best parented child will still be a monster at times. In fact, them being a monster offers the best coaching and reflection moments for the parents to help them grow, if the parent is present enough to do so. Unfortunately, many parents are way too passive, or way too strict, because those are easier than finding a healthy middle ground to coach your children.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Oh yeah, there are definitely kids who just flat-out suck. I'm not gonna be naive and pretend that there's some magic essence that keeps all kids sweet and kind.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Correct. I hate kids. All up.

by stanley99 1 month ago

Same, i don't wish harm on them, it's just that being around them is a torturous experience and i'm so relieved when i get tf away

by Yasmine81 1 month ago

Devil's advocate: they "hate kids" because they've had far too much experience with bad parents. Often including their own.

by Ok-Zucchini 1 month ago

As a parent who has zero tolerance for the kind of behavior you're describing, I will take you at your word for where you stand. But any amount of time being around the internet will show you that many people do in fact hate kids, plain and simple.

by Beginning-Map-4960 1 month ago

Perfectly said. Those parents are just inconsiderate and I don't have patience for that. I feel the same way about kids at concerts and music festivals. I mean come on, people are getting drunk and smoking weed everywhere. Get some better judgement.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

With concerts (especially indoor ones, where smoking isn't permitted) I'm a little more lienent. I was a Dropkick Murphy's show, and they actually had a small couch where any kids who were in attendance were welcomed to sit (up on stage, with parents) and have some cookies and milk/juice. It was pretty cool (and a recognition that as a band they are getting older and they're trying to welcome the next generation of fans into the fold, the kids of their existing fan base). That said, there are definitely some concerts/music fests where kids (especially ones under like 15/16) should not be permitted.

by FlatwormAfraid8006 1 month ago

It wasn't a competition. It was a point that time (9pm) and place (an r rated movie) using a very well-known example. I had to Google Ninja Assassin. It is 16 years old, and didn't have nearly as wide a release. For that, I could have used Human Centipede or Hostel.

by FlatwormAfraid8006 1 month ago

Choke on a cock ☺️

by Anonymous 1 month ago

kinda hot ngl

by Suspicious_Ratio 1 month ago

Many of the awful stuff that happened to me was as a child from other children. And their parents were some of the nicest people around. Children can definitely be evil.

by Plenty-Chipmunk8080 1 month ago

Hell, telling kids to restrain themselves and consider others when they are kids will go a long way to helping them not become Andrew Tate asslickers later in life who act entitled and think they can get away with it.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Laughing? Good! Some shouting? Fine! Shrieking? Not cool. Please help, parent.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Eh, acting like there's something fundamentally wrong with them because they should like kids is part of the problem. Pigeonholing likes and dislikes into should and should not only serves to alienate. Some people just dislike kids. Nothing wrong with that.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I didn't say they should like them. But hating a group of people just based on their age is a little much, no?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Where I'm from (US), people use the word "hate" to mean "dislike" in colloquial speech. Disliking people for personality traits like egocentrism and being unable to regulate emotions is perfectly reasonable.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

You haven't explored the child hate communities then. You'll see it's not just dislike for them.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I strongly dislike people that are loud in public, don't understand personal space, are germ factories of snot, and poop their pants without medical reasons regardless of their age. Does that make it better. It's not just kids that fit that description.

by Ledneramy 1 month ago

Yeah you're a breeder, expect stares the same way people with neck tattoos expect stares. It's not wrong, but to some it can be odd.

by Ledneramy 1 month ago

I'm not a "breeder". I lost my first wife to a drunk driver and remarried and so have a blended family. I also got custody of and raised my siblings because I grew up in a horrible household. But yes, due to your assumptions I totally deserve to get stared at in public.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Well I certainly had an unpopular opinion then, good thing I'm in the right place. Sorry for being a dick.

by Ledneramy 1 month ago

I think disliking people, even little young ones, over immutable traits is wrong.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

What about not liking them for personality traits like egocentrism?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Kids can't help how they are but that doesn't mean you have to like them. There are factual traits about children, that apply to pretty much all children, that can make someone not like them. If you don't like impulsive people then you might not like children If you don't like people without emotional regulation then you might not like children. If you don't like egocentric people then you might not like children Equating it to racism is nonsense.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

There aren't any personality traits that align themselves with race like that. I mentioned personality traits specifically.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I don't think this is a fair comparison. Why should everyone have to like kids?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Why should everyone have to like women? Or Jews? You dont HAVE to, but if you dont, i will judge you accordingly.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Are you really comparing disliking children to mass genocide? Cause I think those 2 things are a little different... You also don't have to like women and Jews but that doesn't mean we should kill them.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

There's not liking kids and hating them . Indifference ain't hate

by lonzo43 1 month ago

Or maybe we could just not hate anyone? Eh?

by No-Spinach 1 month ago

I don't hate all kids, I hate annoying kids in public. The kids in public are there because of their parents, and usually, the kid being annoying is because of the parent too. So you're half right. I hate annoying kids, but I also hate the parents who raise annoying kids.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I mean someone's dog might not know better to bark when he's outside, doesn't mean I enjoy it. drives me insane. Whether or not a child knows better doesn't take the edge off of annoying or intrusive behavior

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The whole parent/child/school dynamic needs an overhaul. It's so outdated.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yeah I think that's perfectly fair tbh. I don't fault you for that.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

A problem in general with Gen x/millennial parents in particular is that we weren't raised with emotional enrichment/validation as a give in, then we as adults learned how that affects children due to pop psychology and reflecting on our lived experiences. We didn't want to do that to our kids and it seems many parents our age uncritically over corrected. It seems a higher percentage of parents view kids as little friends, little versions of themselves to fix their familial or institutional trauma through, rather than a complete being who they need to shape, which includes boundaries and expectations. Not all parents are like this, but too many struggle with the disciplinary aspect of parenting... You don't need to be a demon but saying no, removing privileges and rewards, even the occasional punishment, is necessary to create an healthy adult who can participate in society.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I don't hate kids, but I absolutely hate their voices at high volume, I have autism and it overstimulates tf out of me, big reason I'm not having kids

by No_Albatross 1 month ago

All the parents on here not addressing the point are the exact type of parents OP is talking about.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Well, then those people can trip down the stairs for all I care. 🤷‍♂️

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Maturing is realizing it isn't the children who are at fault (to a certain point, a twelve year old is still a child, but I will also argue at that age they know better), but the parents (and even then, at twelve it is a dual blame thing).

by FlatwormAfraid8006 1 month ago

I think most people who say they hate kids don't genuinely hate kids, but rather dislike them strongly. "Hate" is just a hyperbole. And even if it isn't, it's not like the average person who does "hate" kids is going around purposely hurting them, as most non-kid-haters seem to think.

by xlueilwitz 1 month ago

OP, I appreciate this take. The parenting style pendulum wars cause unpleasant consequences. I am not a parent and try to stay in my lane. But in society, when I'm out and about witnessing what you're describing.....I personally never feel frustrated at the child. They're operating with what they've been given or not given, as far as boundaries. Parents are struggling with so much and I feel bad. I wish there was a way everyone could find balance, but in the U.S. especially....that balance seems less possible across the board. +Pressures around the parenting styles. My parents were able to discipline us without feeling shamed for it/our network of family friends did the same, so idk. Seems like now you can't even sleep train without facing incredible scrutiny.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The problem are adults who expect kids to act as if they are invisible. Adults who have problems with kids, usually also do have problems with other adults and think their anti-sociableness should be the standard.

by Strong_Tough 1 month ago

Honestly, too many parents are like this. The only thing worse than the " my kids can do no wrong" parents are the one who treat their kids like property. Like dogs to be trained. Yes, yes you have to raise your kids and sometimes be a hard ass, but kids are not property. They're little humans that we have to figure out how to guide along the way.

by bennie33 1 month ago

No, I actually also hate children.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Right there with you. Even the well behaved ones drive me nuts after a few minutes

by bransonhuels 1 month ago

You got issues

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yeah, probably 🤷‍♀️

by bransonhuels 1 month ago

You should probably get therapy

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Already do. Not having kids of my own and am friendly to the kids I interact with despite my annoyance, so it's really not a big deal

by bransonhuels 1 month ago

It is also a lesson to learn: Don't have a baby because you think you need one Don't have a baby because they are cute Don't have a baby if you do not have the time for the next…ever after.

by Shanonpaucek 1 month ago

This doesn't need to go as far as hate. Parents should be made to see film of the over entitled ---ards these kids will end up being to scare them straight. There is also a nutrional element to this as well. Kids on a balanced diet don't get the zoomies.

by bernierangela 1 month ago

Lol a lot of people hate kids. I have a kid and i hate my brother's kids.

by Fuzzy_Difference_302 1 month ago

I mean, kids are little people and individual people can just plain suck. I'm talking in very general terms about the general behavior of kids.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Maybe you shouldn't live with someone who has children then.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I don't think this is unpopular.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Just because YOU don't hate kids doesn't mean there aren't people who do. There are people who will be rude or demeaning to anyone they perceive as a minor, no matter how well behaved the kid is.

by Aminajerde 1 month ago

Working in a toy department, this would be my view here. While there are a lot of parents who have good supervision of their kids, there are a few "freerunners" so to speak, as in "go over there when I shop in clothes."

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I don't hate kids, by any means. I have two and I adore them. But when it comes to other people's kids…I have zero feelings towards them. They exist and that's fine but I absolutely do not want to hang out with them. I don't care if they're perfectly behaved, they irritate me. I think it's because they can't understand why they can't have your full attention all the time. And I'm happy to give my kids all my attention, but no one else's. It has nothing to do with the parents.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

this can be true in some instances but your position presupposes that all insufferable kids are a product of bad parenting. def some is but some of it is just a certin kid being themselves; wven if youre the best parent in tbe world you cant always prevent all bad or annoying behavior.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Father of two. Agreed

by Academic_Lemon_5194 1 month ago

I don't hate kids just don't really want to interact them. Don't want kids myself. I don't want to be responsible for another human life.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No, I definitely hate kids.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I don't like kids, loud or not. I don't like them, they annoy me.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The worst is when it's at a restaurant and the kid is clearly screaming trying to get attention but parents are to busy on their phones and don't want to interact with their child.

by Bauchneha 1 month ago

In the dog training world there's a saying, there are no bad dogs, just bad owners. But there are bad dogs. And there are bad kids.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I get what you're saying, but I'm starting to suspect people are far less tolerant of actual children than they like to pretend. I was out shopping with two friends last weekend and a clearly very young baby was crying as they tend to do when hungry or tired. The two friends repeatedly made eye contact with me to quietly express their frustration. I get it, but it was a couple minutes/seconds, and we were far enough away that we can't hear the mom comforting or not to make any assumptions there. It just felt like there tolerance for this baby existing in the space and getting upset for a few was non existent. I'm seeing it more and more and people wonder why children don't know how to behave around adults or mixed age spaces yet they're not tolerated in those spaces to learn.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

True, but some people are just intolerant garbage and hate children. It's a massive privilege to forget that you were a child once.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I was very overwhelmed by other children while I was still a child. Now as an adult, I would still rather keep my distance, but I don't hate children.

by Best-Comfortable9454 1 month ago

And I honestly think that's maybe 30-40% of the people complaining. The single child that grew up with just a pet or something. Or kids that grew up in front of a screen and had limited interaction with other kids. Those poor kids were not prepared for society by their parents.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I don't know if you were talking about me, but I grew up with two sisters and spent a lot of time with my cousins, of which I have many. Lack of time with other children is definitely not the reason other kids overwhelmed me.

by Best-Comfortable9454 1 month ago

I spent time around kids and adults. I didn't like kids then, don't now. I always interacted better with adults and now that I am one it's so much easier to do so. Kids just aren't fun to be around, they never were

by Tall-Secretary7535 1 month ago

Ironically enough, most of the people I know who hate kids, are parents.

by FlatwormAfraid8006 1 month ago

There are more bad parents than good parents in this world

by Substantial-Goal-642 1 month ago

I'm a parent of 3 and I feel the same way OP. Constantly have people coming up to me and saying how well behaved my kids are, it's not hard to discipline.

by Unlucky_Hold 1 month ago

Honest to God. "Hur, I'm a big antisocial loser who hates kids! Ain't that a flex?"

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Nah, kids are awful.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Nah, I think i can safely say I dislike kids

by Anonymous 1 month ago

This isn't an unpopular opinion, it's an objectively incorrect fact.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No I definitely despise children. The bad parents just make it obvious the everyone else why.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Different people hate different things.

by Character_Spell6757 1 month ago

Most hate is irrational though. Hating kids is a great example.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Could not agree more!!

by Anonymous 1 month ago

In my country, it is more than socially acceptable. It is generally frowned upon parents who let their kids run wild in public spaces.

by Fun-Practice9325 1 month ago

This is definitely a big piece of it. But, also, there are places that sometimes a kid has to be, even if no one likes it. Sometimes parents have to fly with young children, and sometimes that is painful, and they cry. The parents don't want to be stuck there with none of their usual tools, the kids don't want to be in pain, and the fellow passengers don't want to have to hear it. But there's no escape.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Well some parents are scared of disciplining in public because people call the cops on them. It's much more difficult to raise a child these days. When we could be spanked in the grocery store we didn't act up. Or at least not for long lol We could be spanked at school also. Rarely did a child act up there. We could actually learn then.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No, I kinda hate kids

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Nah people definitely hate kids

by Steve92 1 month ago

There's definitely people that hate kids, and babies, especially when they cry. it's literally normal for babies to cry.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I actually think that hating the kid is the best way to get to the parent

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Agree with that, but also, kids sometimes just freak out / not much can be done about it until they cool down.

by NewMagician7966 1 month ago

I don't hate children as people, but I kind of hate them as... force of nature, I don't know. As a situation I'm trapped in. This mini-person is not at fault, he is small and doesn't know better, his brains just can't comprehend that what he is doing is disruptive, and his mother may try her best, but he is still screaming. SCREAMING. And while he is screaming, my teeth start grinding, my head starts to ache, my heart rate elevates, I want to be anywhere else but here, but I can't, cause it's a line at the store, airplane, train or smth like that, and all I can do is hate this situation.

by Alison84 1 month ago

I have a one-year-old and I am pregnant, so obviously I don't hate HATE kids. However it has never offended me when people do. I mean they are incredibly needy and abrasive and require constant vigilance. I never spent much time with kids before having them for that reason. When people say they hate them, I take that to me and I hate being around them, but that you also do not want harm to be fall them. You sincerely hope they grow up to be courteous, productive members of society. Thusly you don't want bad things to happen to them, you just want them to be away from you. Completely fair.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No, I genuinely hate kids.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

cringe

by Marisa67 1 month ago

Nah

by Marisa67 1 month ago

I'd bet a lot of money you're a miserable parent.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

What's your excuse for being miserable?

by Marisa67 1 month ago

I just feel like it 🤷🏼‍♀️ good thing I have all my money and free time to make me feel better about it though.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Bless your heart lol. If you have to pretend like I don't enjoy every second of my child free, stress free, affluent lifestyle to make yourself feel better about your own choices, be my guest.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

You're single and live with your parents. Also chronically online…….. i see why you've got that disposable income.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Can people here please have some compassion. Some kids have extra or special needs and this stuff is extremely hard. And no, you cannot always tell by looking if you are not an expert. Be decent people, please.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I actually hate kids.

by ekeeling 1 month ago

There are absolutely people who hate kids. For me, I am fine with kids (and absolutely spoil my niece) but I really dislike parents who let their kids do whatever they please and act like its nothing. I was once at a brewery and there were two kids with their parents and one of them kicked someone's dog who was just sitting their quietly. the dog owner was absolutely shocked but didn't say anything and just picked up the dog. However, the parents in this instance didn't do a single thing and continue to let their kids run around as they carried on drinking. However, when someone confronted them (the parents) about their kids acting like little monsters when others are just trying to have a good and relaxing time, the parents literally took personal offense and said "kids will be kids and this is my only day off!". Those parents suck.

by Worried_Leek2311 1 month ago

Kind of bold, a touch more ignorant, and completely devoid of empathy to assume others have your viewpoint. Many people dislike kids regardless of the actions of their parents.

by ElectionAccording 1 month ago

Everyone is a parenting expert until they have kids and realize they know absolutely nothing.

by Distinct_Diet 1 month ago

I don't Iike kids much either.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

no no no, people do hate kids.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Someone once said to me something like, "let's face it, kids are just assholes." I was thinking, uh, no. Their parents teach them to be assholes. I know lots of people whose kids are great and well-behaved. It's not the kids who are the problem. Kids WANT boundaries. They thrive in stable environments. They don't want to think they make the decisions (because, let's be honest, that's exactly what is happening.) Give your children the gift of boundaries.

by Mental-Operation 1 month ago

No I hate kids too.

by Outrageous_Recipe 1 month ago

I'm strong enough to hate the parents and the kids.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Naaa I detest children. Little parasites on society

by No-Art 1 month ago

Says the 47 year old loser begging people online to have phone sex with him.

by Downtown_Valuable 1 month ago