You shouldn't take a job whose salary is less than annual tuition at the most expensive school that you went to, amirite?

You do realize people don't choose what jobs they get. You apply and then get chosen

by Anonymous 1 month ago

And equally some people look for more attractive careers that also happen to pay less. Journalism graduates say hello.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

They're to busy getting pushed falling out of windows.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

😭😭 I too am a jour grad

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Art majors, stand up!

by Pretty_Bobcat 1 month ago

But you do choose what you apply to and what job you accept

by Nearby_Tumbleweed 1 month ago

Yes people accept money over no money 😭

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Works real well for being homeless.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

They did choose to go to college, however without first researching how useful their degree will be.

by Ebosco 1 month ago

Tell that to the millions of data-scientists who chose their degree exactly because it was extremely in demand and cant get a job. A degree is a requirement but not the only requirement.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Do better.

by Ebosco 1 month ago

What do you mean with do better? the market is just oversaturated with (very smart) junior data scientists. Companies want experienced people. You just can't be experienced by "doing better"

by Anonymous 1 month ago

If the market is oversaturated, then perhaps people should've gotten into different careers.

by Ebosco 1 month ago

Maybe students shouldn't oversaturate markets. When people flood these careers, they're no longer in demand. This wouldn't be an issue if we actually had balance. Did you know the average age of a tradesmen for instance is 55 years old? It's something like 8% of people in skilled trades are part of Gen Z. Data science isn't going to maintain your infrastructure when generation X retires, now is it?

by Ebosco 1 month ago

So what?! In the 50s we had 30% farmers. Now it's at 1-3%. Even if you do very extensive research about what the job market will look like and follow expert advice before chosing a career, you don't know how the future looks like.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The judgement is a separate issue but yeah there have always been jobs that require degrees and don't pay well. We still need teachers and social workers and we still have people who want those jobs. We've also had huge shifts in the market. Like until recently people trusted good government jobs

by Anonymous 1 month ago

A lot of teachers make more than you think. Especially with all the days off they get. But maybe people should quit being teachers if it doesn't pay enough. Ironically, these are the same teachers who told my generation that if you don't go to college, you're going to be a useless bum sweeping floors. I wasn't dumb enough to fall for it and actually researched degrees first.

by Ebosco 1 month ago

Sounds like you have specific issues with people that I'm not talking about😭 Teachers don't make more than we think. They are very unpaid😭

by Anonymous 1 month ago

What does this mean?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It means she makes a damn good amount of money despite the claim that teachers are underpaid.

by Ebosco 1 month ago

Some people's motivation to get an education isn't to make more money. A career is something you dedicate almost half your waking hours to for decades, it's reasonable to consider what you actually want to be doing with that time when choosing a career as opposed to just taking whichever opportunity available to you pays the best.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Then these types of people shouldn't be so outspoken about wages. It was them who did not choose a major that was marketable.

by Ebosco 1 month ago

That's a terrible way to look at finding employment. You absolutely choose what jobs you get in every that an employer chooses you. You choose to apply and you choose to accept the position. Going into a job interview as if you're also interviewing potential employers yields considerable confidence. Going in as if you're a contestant on The Bachelor is an awful mindset.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

You can apply to every job you want but if you're not chosen then you're not chosen. People still have to eat and house themselves

by Anonymous 1 month ago

But going to Stanford or Harvard may have helped them be chosen for the job. If two people apply for a job and are equally competitive besides the fact that one went to Stanford and one went to a degree mill, the Stanford applicant is more likely to land the job.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Why does it matter? Those jobs always have to be filled. Also librarians require a lot of schooling to do it at a high level for not a lot of pay. Teachers are similar we just don't pay them well

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Do you know that they didn't receive any financial aid or that they're in major debt?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

thats an incredibly privileged take no one is entitled to XYZ job because they went to ABC school, people work the jobs they can get

by Thelmachamplin 1 month ago

So people should just have no income vs low income? You do know the difference between entry pay and experienced pay right?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I think it's about choosing less expensive schools unless you're gonna make more money annually

by No_Travel 1 month ago

I'm of the belief he is simply chatting out of his arse

by Missouriwaters 1 month ago

I agree in principle and I'm sure people are trying to do exactly that. It's not always possible though.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I mean people need to eat and live so take whatever job you need to until you can find something better.

by garrisoneffertz 1 month ago

Tell me you have almost no real world experience without telling me…

by taya99 1 month ago

Here's my fact...most people are probably making more than the annual cost they paid for tuition. In state tuition is what, 20k-30k a year? Likely overestimating there...that's making $10-$15/hr, which you can make most anywhere

by Kitchen_Ad7057 1 month ago

That's very arbitrary. Most student loans in the USA are a 10 year loan. As long as you make enough money for your normal living expenses, grow your savings, AND can make the minimum monthly payment, you're profiting.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Im sure the people you are referring to turned down six figure salaries to work at those jobs because they wanted character development.. its not possible that they simply needed money coming in and didn't have that offer on the table… Nobody is turning down the high salary offer letter unless they don't have student loans or genuinely want that other job

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Like these people entering fields with no applicable skills hold any weight in salary demands. Maybe if the industry needs workers yes, but if it's highly competitive, then good luck.

by edonnelly 1 month ago

Nothing about this is unpopular it's just not a smart take .

by Demetriusfay 1 month ago

education is invaluable. it stays with you regardless of what you're doing. there are more reasons to work some place beside money like good will or for good health.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Do you know how much they actually paid to go? Harvard and Stanford waive tuition for students whose parents make under 120-200k And there is a sliding scale, generally you don't pay full tuition until your parents make 1m/year. Also what are the part time jobs? It's not like all the Harvard and Stanford grads going in to finance/tech are helping the world. Roles that are actually beneficial to society underpay lmao.

by Illustrious_Can 1 month ago

t's not like all the Harvard and Stanford grads going in to finance/tech are helping the world. Or most!

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yep. No Harvard grad can go in to teaching or most research fields according to OP. Hell even medical school grads make like 50k as residents. God forbid they do something like a paralegal/journalism/get in to politics as a staffer. It's basically just comp sci, actuaries, chemical engineers, and those who get IB offers that make more than a years tuition after graduation.

by Illustrious_Can 1 month ago

If I had a job that only paid what the annual tuition was where I got my degree, I couldn't afford food, let alone rent. Before invading other countries, the U.S. should look at how much money they spend on things that should be far more accessible to anyone who qualifies.

by Jalen02 1 month ago

Same, I earn quadruple my tuition now. My tuition would barely pay my mortgage

by Missouriwaters 1 month ago

'Sorry, I'm going to stay unemployed and broke until I can find a job that meets X criteria'. People have bills to pay, if they can get a job that will keep a roof over their head and fed, who cares. They can always get a higher paying job in the future if they want to.

by External_Aside 1 month ago

I mean , you can seek education without going to school. Going to school is primarily for better financial circumstances for the majority of people

by Demetriusfay 1 month ago

No, never.

by aubreyernser 1 month ago

You guys are paying tuition?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No, actually.

by Affectionate_Yak2699 1 month ago

Lmao. Reality would like a word...

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Beggars can't be choosers. Especially in this job market. If it was an employee market then sure. Get the best but it's not the case

by Royal_Tomorrow 1 month ago

Higher education is not solely about employment.

by kshlerinchad 1 month ago

Aww you think there's a choice.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

College raises your career ceiling. It does almost nothing for your career floor.

by jadencarter 1 month ago

Good point

by aubreyernser 1 month ago

You sweet summer child

by ebertdestiny 1 month ago

RIP teachers

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I shouldn't take a job that earns less than €1000/year? Don't tell me what to do

by myrl54 1 month ago

Life circumstances can mean the lower paying job with benefits and a flexible schedule is the better choice for people. For example, a parent with young school age kids who wants to stay home when they can, a flexible schedule where the parent works while the kids are in school but is available in the afternoon. Another example, after reaching "barista FI" a person might work at something they value.

by Affectionate_Yak2699 1 month ago

I've been working my professional college educated jobs for 15 years. I'm still young-ish but looking towards retirement. In the next 5-10 years, I'll probably quit what I'm doing and take a less stressful job. It'll be fine.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Salaries increase with experience, not education

by hermannautumn 1 month ago

A gig is a gig is a gig is a gig

by Think_Recover_6989 1 month ago

I'd rather be earning some money than none. I'll take what position I can get to pay the bills.

by cecile19 1 month ago

Conversely, at the time you select a college, you should consider how you will be paying for it. For an elite few, mom and dad might easily be able to foot the bill. For the other 99%, you likely have some combination of savings, working while in school, scholarships, and student loans. For the amount you are financing, consider how much your future career will pay to help you most quickly pay off this debt. If your chosen career is a traditionally low paying job, selecting an in-state public college is probably your best bet. If you are aiming to become a C-level executive at a major corporation, an Ivy league degree (along with other network connections) may pay off, but there is definitely a risk. If your ambitions are high, but you don't quite achieve the career success you had hoped, you may end up struggling to pay off massive loans that your salary doesnt support.

by Plane_Future 1 month ago

. . . if you have a better option.

by Ok_Jello 1 month ago

Most people are jobless because they did it to themselves. Theres a truly unpopular opinion. People don't want to accept that their social science degree from university of Phoenix is completely useless.

by This-Radish 1 month ago

This is bait, not even that good honestly.

by Boyerramon 1 month ago

I couldn't quite hear what you said over the incredibly loud privilege.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Is being homeless a better option?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Lots of good schools where the annual in-state tuition is less than what a minimum wage job would pay. Two examples are UT Austin and Georgia Tech.

by WorldlyMail 1 month ago

Good luck in the real world with that attitude.

by Anonymous 1 month ago