The UFC is garbage, amirite?

There was a period in time where all of my friends would meet up once every few weekends to watch whatever major UFC fight was on... The product they have now is so laughably watered down compared to back then. I literally don't even know 3/4 of the fighters and anytime I do catch a fight it's pretty mediocre. Then there's the fact that it used to be a fairly respectable sport with martial artists from different backgrounds facing off in a competition to see who's better. Now the sport feels like it's filled with every macho asshole on earth and Dana White could not come off as a bigger prick if he tried. There was a long time where I defended the UFC against attacks that it's just a bunch of dumb dudes beating each other up. Unfortunately it now feels like that's exactly what it is.

by Salt_King 1 month ago

Me too..

by Other-Environment 1 month ago

If the fighters were paid fairly, I feel like that would reflect on the actual product being better

by allan70 1 month ago

And I would literally be less inclined to sail the seas if I ever wanted to watch their product.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Higher pay would mean less fights and worse product unfortunately.

by bartholome18 1 month ago

OR, hear me out, less profit for the people that don't risk their lives in the octagon

by Anonymous 1 month ago

So you're saying people would fight less because they wouldn't be as desperate? And desperate people fighting for money is what leads to a better product? If that's an accurate summary, I guess I could believe it would be possible, but I think it would horrify me even more. Since this would be a company running a $150+ million profit who could throw another million to desperate fighters ruining their bodies for the company, but choose not to.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

100% convinced Dana stripped the fighters of their ability to take on sponsors on shorts and banners to have wayyyyy more leverage over them

by Brycenvolkman 1 month ago

Have you ever bought a PPV?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

How does Dana White's semen taste.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yes, ppv money goes straight to fighters and not into tomatohead's bank account ahahaha don't be stupid.

by Physical-Row 1 month ago

Agree, it lacks characters now and is dominated by boring Russian wrestlers. Chuck liddell, rampage, gsp, Anderson silva, bisping , bj penn...that was peak ufc. Even if technically they would all (exception of gsp) lose to the current competition, at least they were exciting

by Anonymous 1 month ago

There's currently on two proper wrestlers who are currently champ what u talking about

by Due-Alfalfa-134 1 month ago

Maybe "dominated" was the wrong word, I took it more as "full of" than "lead by". But there are a lot of Russian-originating dudes in the ufc now.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

By a lot, you mean like 10%.... And even among them only a handful are ranked and only two of them are champions. And funnily enough one of them is an insanely entertaining champion as well (Islam Makhachev). Your point is invalid by all means.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

"Boring wrestlers"- lists GSP as peak LMAO

by Isom64 1 month ago

Eh the only ones who won mainly off of control time wrestling has been ank/merab. Islam has some crazy entertaining fights and has a finish in something like 8 of his last 9 fights.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Honestly I think the fighters have gotten soo good from a technical standpoint. Everyone is practicing the same methods coming into the sport with broad skill sets but are rarely elite in a single discipline. You would have real BJJ black belts going against lifelong muay Thai students or a wrestler with knockout power vs a cardio machine. The matchups that make exciting fights are slowly being phased out of the gamem

by Oscarbarrows 1 month ago

It's one thing back in the day to pay $50 an month for cable and then order a $39.99 ppv everynow and then Anybody wanna tell him?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I mean the fights are so bad that Dana White fought his wife..in public...on camera...

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It's wild how far the UFC has dropped off in the last six years or so. Back when McGregor was at his best, it really looked like they were heading toward NBA or MLB territory in terms of mainstream popularity. Then McGregor crashed into addiction, the UFC went full throttle with some strong far-right messaging, and the fight cards started feeling repetitive. These days, I'll still watch PPVs if there's a title on the line (which I sail the high seas for 🏴‍☠️), but Fight Nights? Barely touch them, and I don't keep up with much UFC stuff beyond the major PPV events. That's a far cry from 2014 to 2019, when every card felt like a huge moment, something I'd build up to all week, watching every Embedded episode to get pumped. That thrill has been missing for a good while now.

by Eudoraswaniawsk 1 month ago

Its embarassing that the UFC only did 3 McGregor ppvs since the Khabib fight. ESPN must be pissed

by jacobsonchase 1 month ago

Problem is they have barely any stars. They were hyping Alex Pereira as the face of the company but he's too old.

by Ready_Tough 1 month ago

They don't need stars anymore, they don't do creative promoting like they used to. And it's all because they have no competition in the sport of mma. Nothing is forcing them to grow. Forexample, Artem Vakhitov is arguably a better kickboxer than Izzy and Alex, yet they refused to sign him cause they wouldn't budge on their $10k show/$10k win contract offer. If they actually had competition in the mma market they would've been forced to be more aggressive in pursuing him.

by Huelsvivianne 1 month ago

Wwe wrestlers at the bare minimum get 355k. For ufc fighters it's 10k...

by Anonymous 1 month ago

If true that's crazy pay disparity, but don't wwe superstars work more events? Still crazy pay gap though.

by Carolyn24 1 month ago

Is it a pay gap when they're doing completely different things to earn the money though?

by ninapagac 1 month ago

In 2023 Seth Rollins wrestled 100 times. It's pointless to compare the two.

by Full-Independent 1 month ago

Pretty sure its 10k show up and another 10k if u win for ufc fighters at the bare minimum. Youre right ab the wwe thing though. The reason some of the fighters go so hard on the prelims and have absolute banger fights is because they NEED the money so they try win while the higher paid fighters have less to lose so thats why some of their fights are slower paced

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yeah, that's not a recipe for success long term. TKO added WWE, and then On Location, because their buy rates have stagnated and they want more VIP experiences to supplement that income stagnation.

by Emergency-Airline 1 month ago

Actors have always made more than fighters, yeah?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

What? People really only get 10k to get the beating of their life?

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'm looking forward to the (inevitable, eventual) Netflix docuseries exposing Dana White.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It's ran it's course sadly. Dana pimped it out for cash. I rarely pay it much interest these days.

by Greenfelderagus 1 month ago

I think Fury vs Joshua and Joshua vs Wilder were ruined more because those fighters started losing tbh. Canelo vs Benavidez and Tank vs anyone are the ones getting away from us

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I still watch it because i love mma, but the idea that everyone thinks Jon is the goat is just flat out incorrect.

by WrongWin5579 1 month ago

It's a bit boring, a bit corrupt and more than a bit right wing. Lost interest years ago.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The fighters arent as mixed as they used to be anymore. I miss karate and judo and greco roman. Its BJJ now and Muay Thai. Its saturated.

by Gisselleklein 1 month ago

Cause overtime people realized some styles aren't as effective in mma.

by Huelsvivianne 1 month ago

No it's not, it doesn't really seem like you know what you're talking about. It's wrestling/sambo heavy now (which can be boring for many people), but the UFC also just had two back to back kickboxing title-reigns at 185 and 205 with Israel Adesanya and Alex Pereira. BJJ was dominant in early MMA. It hasn't been dominant in like 10 years lol. MT shows up here and there but again, has not been dominant since like Anderson Silva's prime lol

by Connect_Draw 1 month ago

Agreed that it's garbage

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It's like boxing with weight classes, there just two men of the same height and build fighting in the same way. On a technical level they might be incredibly skilled but from the outside is all the same.

by EastMaintenance1480 1 month ago

I completely agree. Completely went done with the company when they became Trump rallies

by Anonymous 1 month ago

So do you like other MMA promotions?

by ninapagac 1 month ago

I occasionally watch one, imo it's more entertaining.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yea ,I know someone personally who's in the ufc and it's changed him for the worse

by Gloomy-Group 1 month ago

I'm a huge wrestling fan, but UFC has never appealed to me. Only time I ever watched a fight was when Cain Velasquez destroyed Brock Lesnar.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

their so-called GOAT is a blatant cheat who's been caught using PEDs multiple times Who is that? I'm out of the loop and haven't watched UFC regularly since 1996.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Jon Jones

by Ready_Tough 1 month ago

But if you ask a fan of the UFC they will say the Dagestanis are the problem not the rapists and wife beaters

by Powerful-Skill 1 month ago

Anyway, the sport is growing exponentially and becoming more popular everywhere. The UFC is the best sport in the world.

by Klutzy-Account 1 month ago

you mean MMA right? UFC itself is not a sport.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The UFC is declining mate. Ever since they lost mcgoober and honda housey they aren't able to hit big numbers on PPV's.

by chanelleoreilly 1 month ago

The issues isn't that people aren't watching it. Its that there are more ways to pirate it.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Yeah brother, preach. What's other org that has bigger talent and overall quality than UFC in your opinion?

by Ok_Many 1 month ago

Got em

by Anonymous 1 month ago

When the fighters talk i either cringe from how corny they are or cringe at how dumb they are. When Dana talks you know he's trying to cheat someone out of something. Yeah it is a garbage product.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

The last good fight was the first UFC after the Ultimate Fighter with Forrest Griffin and Stephan Bonnar. Since then I watched maybe 4 of 5 PPV's and nothing has lived up to that so I bowed out years ago.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I think most UFC fans would agree with you. They hold way too many events for them to be cared about now. There's a few really good fights a year but so much filler

by Temporary-Oil1953 1 month ago

who wants brain damage for a pittance

by Anonymous 1 month ago

No need to smear WWE.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Boxing has been more interesting than UFC for a few years now. Haven't seen much but I've heard great things about ONE

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Why did you throw the WWE under the bus 😭

by SensitiveTest 1 month ago

As a South African, I literally only watch Dricus du Plessis's fights and only out of patriotism and national pride. Couldn't care less about the rest of the UFC.

by Hfarrell 1 month ago

Almost all participants are domestic abusers and violent men.

by ryan34 1 month ago

Too many cards dilutes all the cards. Apex Center cards are boring with so few fans. Change the gloves to reduce eye pokes as that continues to be a problem with zero intention to do anything about it. Go to bare knuckle like BKFC, shorter more exciting fights. Don't make the fans pay so much money to watch and then under pay the fighters. I was a big fan, but have slowly grown bored of it.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Go back to no rounds, get rid of that ridiculous 12-6 elbow rule, and paying the fighters more will make better fights

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Try Bare Knuckles / BKFC

by huelsjermain 1 month ago

For casual viewers, yeah I can see why you'd think that

by Isom64 1 month ago

Never understood the appeal. Two mostly naked grown men hugging in a cage isn't interesting to me. Seems fairly homoerotic which is ok if that's your thing but most fans I've met would take serious offense from that.

by HumbleGood 1 month ago

I agree. I really like the concept of the original UFC, when it pitted different styles of martial arts against each other. Now there is neither anything remotely "mixed" or "martial" about mixed martial arts. Every fighter is trained in BJJ and Muay Thai, leading to boring, predictable fights. And the fighters are generally trash talking thugs that show little respect or humility that a "real" martial artist would.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I hated Joe Rogan before it was cool

by armand73 1 month ago

I struggle to deal with the rampant advertising at every possible moment.

by MacaroonWilling4848 1 month ago

When they placed the entire promotion behind a massive paywall charging for the privilege to buy massively overpriced PPVs I was done.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

See you next week 😎 (diehard fan also feeling this way lol)

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I watched every UFC PPV event from like the Chuck Lidell days until probably 2022. The events turned into political campaigning events and the competition turned into a joke. After the 3 year absence now, I have 0 interest in it and hope Dana drives that company into the ground.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I guess this isn't an unpopular opinion after all. I agree it sucks now

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It was a lot better when it was basically randomized fights. Screw your weight classes, I want to see a sumo wrestler fight a lightweight.

by Romaguerapaige 1 month ago

I think a lot of it is down to the fact that the most dominant style is wrestling which for most people is not enjoyable to watch. Most of the big title fights have one person looking for takedowns the entire fight. Maybe because I'm a Brit but Aspinall vs Pavlovich was the last time I felt truly excited for a fight. Holloway vs Gaethje too but I'm not sure which was first! Fighters need to be penalized on the scorecards for takedowns that lead to nothing, I'm not watching 3 rounds of fighting for body position

by Hilpertelisabet 1 month ago

Not unpopular, ever since they staged the McGregor freakout and pretended to charge him with whatever. It's a carny show just as much as wwe.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I'm not British i'm Belgian but calling someone a wanker is funny imo

by Powerful-Skill 1 month ago

"Wankers" in OP

by Fast_Consequence3368 1 month ago

Ohh, I like the insult wankers. But then again I am British. Does sound better than a jerk or jerk off haha

by Mckenzie11 1 month ago

normalize juicing im so bored of hearing people complain about it

by Lulugoldner 1 month ago

Give me a league of all PED users. Let's see what the true highest point of athleticism the human body can endure

by FineCommittee4151 1 month ago

Would be like a bunch of Capt Americas fighting each other

by Anonymous 1 month ago

everybody already juices in the UFC and nobody's died what are you even talking about?

by Lulugoldner 1 month ago

Everyone doesn't juice in the UFC, that's a myth mongs like to spread around. Are you really suggesting MMA isn't an incredibly dangerous sport purely cos no one's died in the UFC yet? And you have the cheek to ask me what I'm talking about

by ninapagac 1 month ago

Always has been.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It used to be better before Dana sold his soul to Satan.

by hgislason 1 month ago

It feels like the UFC is bigger than ever

by Powerful-Skill 1 month ago

Right, it's performative masculinity for insecure men.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

That's not true. The promotion and its fighters literally cater to those types of people.

by Huelsvivianne 1 month ago

Sure mate

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Andrew Tate occasional MMA ok

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Don't be pedantic. Tate, the Paul brothers. It attracts A-grade douchebags. Even Trump attends matches.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Tate Paul brothers and UFC ok

by Anonymous 1 month ago

He's not comparing it to WWE, he's insulting it by saying a real fighting league is more of a joke than a fake one

by Fast_Consequence3368 1 month ago

I think the UFC product has been in decline and I'm losing interest. Do you actually find the current day UFC product entertaining?

by Huelsvivianne 1 month ago

It's in a rough spot right now. Love the sport, and it's had some highs (Alex Pereiras rise over the past few years has been awesome), but a lot of lows over the past little bit. Champions are largely inactive, have little star power, are obviously completely unbeatable or just plain not exciting to watch… usually a combination of a few. The really exciting guys like your Dustin Poirier, Max Holloway, hell, even Justin Gaethje have been in numerous wars and are understandably fighting less often and talking about the end of their careers. Some divisions are just absolutely brutal with how shallow they are at the moment. It's still something I try to watch every card of, and make sure to check the results if I can't… but right now is definitely not a particularly good time for the sport.

by Aggressive_Log_9160 1 month ago

Alot of rules need to go. So much for a bloodsport.

by Nitzschelinda 1 month ago

It's not a blood sport it's a combat sport

by ninapagac 1 month ago

Armored MMA much better . Fight with full armor and weapon .

by Difficult-Bell 1 month ago

Karate combat is great too.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I love the UFC. They basically have events weekly now, and when I was first a fan. It may have been every 6 weeks. So it is watered down. But I am a fan of the sport. It's one of the purest forms of physical competition. Just so many skills to account for, human spirit is a big part of it. I have alot of respect for the athletes. WWE is not even a sport, it is a show. I don't even think they are comparable at all.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

Okay. Don't watch it then. Pretty simple.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

It's not an unpopular opinion. Many people don't enjoy combat sports, especially the more brutal ones like UFC.

by Anonymous 1 month ago

But that's about not liking MMA. He's specifically talking about the most popular MMA organisation

by Anonymous 1 month ago

I will watch the big fights if i like the fighters but yeah most cards are skips to me Last fight i planned watching was Tsarukyan vs Makhachev, but then Tsarukyan pulled out and Dana threw some random nobody into the octagon with little to no preparation time and surprise surprise he got absolutely mauled This is what i mean when i say the UFC is a joke of a company

by Powerful-Skill 1 month ago