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Better Call Saul retroactively makes Breaking Bad significantly worse, amirite?
by Anonymous2 months ago
While I don't really get the first one, and I disagree with the second, I'm with you on the third point. I call it Star Wars Lore syndrome, where nothing can ever just be a line and be left as a mystery, every single little detail and character has to get their own lore page and explanation.
by norwoodjohns2 months ago
Hahaha. Because Han really did complete the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs, because that was clearly not a mistake in the script, but showed a clear understanding of relativistic travel. Or his piloting skill near black holes. Or whatever.
by Anonymous2 months ago
I totally get where you're coming from and dislike that with something's as well. I do think that kind of story telling where each story builds off each other has a place in media. I'd also say that it fits breaking bad really well.
by Anonymous2 months ago
Yeah I feel like comparing Albuquerque to the entire Star Wars universe is insane. Especially considering BB consists of two shows and a movie, all about the same characters. So of course, the same characters show up. And even still, BCS has a ton of main characters who are not present in BB: Kim and Nacho mainly, Lalo and Howard, Chuck.
by Anonymous2 months ago
Not just star wars. Here, have a three episode arc explaining why klingon make up changed rather than just taking the wink and a nod line in an anniversary episode as just that.
by liza792 months ago
Cinemasins and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race
by wardjazmin2 months ago
Mike didnt work for Gus yet in Better Call Saul, im confused how thats a plothole.
by Alexandriaquitz2 months ago
For real. It's like people expect characters to act exactly how they pwrsonally would have in that situation and if they don't It's a plot hole
by Anonymous2 months ago
The plot hole armor thiccens 🧐
by wilburn832 months ago
I've seen the documentary, and all full blown adults can watch is "Ow! My Balls!"
by Glittering_Site13972 months ago
Or it was explained, but they were probably on their phone
by Anonymous2 months ago
I think it's implying that he eventually works for Gus and if Helctor has a good memory, would grow suspicious upon seeing Mike again. But yeah not really a plot hole.
by Regular_Rutabaga2 months ago
I mean, it doesn't really matter if Hector grows anymore suspicious upon seeing Mike because at this point he already knows that Gus killed Lalo
by Anonymous2 months ago
Yeah I dunno how everyone missed that. It's not really a plot hole, just not that beleiveable. Fiction can never be perfect.
by Acceptable_Eye2 months ago
Wait. Mike absolutely worked for Gus in "better call Saul". Didn't he run the surveillance at his house ? Didn't he manage the people working the construction of the meth lab?
by Anonymous2 months ago
That's long after the kerfuffle with Tuco.
by Anonymous2 months ago
I misread and am an idiot
by Anonymous2 months ago
the "plothole" is that they couldn't have possibly made up after that and worked together, but honestly they could've. When the scene ends, Tuco laughs because he understands that this was all part of Mike's plan, and he has a good sense of humor so he laughs it off and gives him another headbutt
by WorthDinner60502 months ago
Mike and Tuco never worked together
by Anonymous2 months ago
Right, as far as i know they have no idea Mike worked for gus. That was the whole point of the secret underground lair
by Collinhaley2 months ago
I will say now a REAL unpopular opinion here. Mike is a dumb character. I always hated his guts.
by TinyShock34462 months ago
They literally show the scene where Hector tells Eladio that it was Gus who killed Lalo and Eladio doesn't believe him because all the evidence point to him just trying to off the man he's always hated.
by Logical_Produce91412 months ago
Not to mention Nacho's iconic rant. Which seems to convince Hector, considering how he unloads bullets on his corpse.
by Anonymous2 months ago
DEENG DEENG DEENG DEENG…
by Anonymous2 months ago
Plot hole=I wasn't paying attention lol
by Anonymous2 months ago
I live in Albuquerque and it's unironically not that big lol
by Hungry-Investment2 months ago
I visited ABQ and toured round all the BB locations on a bicycle and , yeah, it ain't that big
by huelmaddison2 months ago
They've got some great breweries for sure. And tangentially, as a Wisconsinite, it was somewhat "comforting" to know there are cities with more drinking problems than us 😬
by Anonymous2 months ago
Not only that but Don Eladio favors Gus, because he is a producer, far exceeding the Salamancas. That's clearly built up over the series. Gus constantly 1ups Hector, Gus does that to be seen as equal to the rest of the families. Op has an opinion full of plot holes while BCS has really tried to cover all of them
by Future-Musician-62042 months ago
Also, as Hector himself says to Lalo on the phone, he needs proof, which he was in the process of getting when Gus killed him.
by Anonymous2 months ago
Absolutely incorrect and brainrotted take
by Jolly_Grapefruit29702 months ago
Yup. OP has the IQ of Tuco.
by Anonymous2 months ago
Albuquerque isn't that big
by jacobsoneliza2 months ago
Did you try watching it with your eyes open?
by Anonymous2 months ago
If you look at any TV series or movie with a microscope you'll find plot holes. Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul is no exception.
by Kuhicjeanne2 months ago
Honestly my biggest issue is how quickly things happen. Jesse's house is renovated, he gets hurt and heals several times, he does rehab all in about a year
by Anonymous2 months ago
That's more unrealistic than the millions they were making off producing meth in an Rv in the desert?
by Anonymous2 months ago
All I know about meth is from BB so I can't really say
by Anonymous2 months ago
Well I play schedule 1, and I can tell you its possible
by Lawsonkoepp2 months ago
Considering it's got a 98% rotten tomatoes score and a 9/10 imdb rating yeah I would agree this opinion is unpopular lol.
by rogelio022 months ago
It's less unpopular and more just wrong Not liking BCS is an opinion Claiming it's bad and listing a bunch of things op didn't understand is just idiotic.
by Emotional_Box2 months ago
For what it's worth I don't entirely disagree with you but their scores are often pretty on point with how a show or movie is received by the general audience. There have been times I disagree with their ratings but generally I agree. Better Call Saul specifically though is raved about among fans of Breaking Bad and can honestly be watched entirely without watching a single episode of Breaking Bad and its still an incredible show. That's just my opinion on it though.
by rogelio022 months ago
You must be absolutely fun to watch movies with...
by cliffordhilll2 months ago
What went down that drove Mike out of Philly? Did you even watch the show?
by Anonymous2 months ago
OP's point is that in BB you don't know but BCS just tells you. Don't know why it's a bad thing, though?
by No-Guidance-90472 months ago
Yeah, it's not like he left for some lame reason like he beat someone who mouthed off or whatever. The backstory they filled in was compelling and added a lot of texture to Mike and how he views criminality.
by EfficiencyHuge282 months ago
I actually rather enjoy the scene with Mike getting run out of Philly in almost every way. From the premise he only kinda gets away with it because of his cop buddies to the actual setup for it
by hellenmarquardt2 months ago
On the first one. Mike didn't work for gus then. Mike wasn't Gus's first hand man and was doing odd jobs. Like the weird little guy who got his baseball cards stolen. More seriously, later in the series Hector becomes fully aware of Gus's treachery against the cartel. He's aware Gus kills Lalo. In Breaking Bad it's shown he is still active and communicating, as he does with Tuco and the Cousins. So this would imply in the years between the two series, he just kind of lets everything he learned in Better Call Saul go and never makes his family do anything about it. It was established his links were broken, the cartel was seriously crippled by the attack on the Cartel Compound and Gus's poisoning of the high players. He won on his side. His big link back home was Lalo, Lalo was one of the last big players he had left. Tuco was a low end dealer moving stuff to people like Jesse Pinkman, he was lower management. The Cousins were just hitmen and were direct family so they took him seriously. He was always cognitive. In Better Call Saul, the timeline puts it at him having been doing this for about four years (the main plot ends with Kim leaving him in 2004, Breaking Bad starts in 2008). His huge and impressive network of criminal contacts is implied to be mostly inherited from obtaining ownership of the vet's notebook. This makes him so much lamer. He got A LOT closer with Mike and Gus. With that comes perks like access to more resources as well as just having to deal with issues and learning of people via working for gus. There also weren't that many really, you probably named most of them. Also it turns out that Saul and Mike have repeatedly run into Tuco in completely independent contexts before Jesse and Walt do. Apparently Albuquerque isn't that big. How much of Albuquerque do you think are involved in the drug business? You're going to come across people like Tuco if you're involved locally.
by Anonymous2 months ago
I think its symbolic.
by Anonymous2 months ago
Jimmy cut corners on everything. Collecting all of his criminal contacts through a single black book is totally in character for him.
by walker902 months ago
But mandela, we need to cook.
by Carrollclifton2 months ago
Oh yeah, I forgot that it's opposite day
by Anonymous2 months ago
There are plot holes in pretty much every show, including these two, but pretty much every question you asked can be answered. In fact some directly influence main plot points lol.
by Anonymous2 months ago
Also... Plot holes aren't what people seem to think are plot holes. Most shows don't actually have plot holes. It's just a missed term that usually means, "I don't understand this part".
by Apprehensive_Date2 months ago
I don't agree with all these plot holes but in the end this is the curse of the prequel. You're writing to known ending and it just makes a less interesting story overall
by Lexiedamore2 months ago
Why would anyone avoid the better one of the two shows?
by Anonymous2 months ago
As someone who lives in Albuquerque, it really isn't that big. Not surprising that competing drug dealers would encounter each other often
by Anonymous2 months ago
On point 1 and 2, I'm curious if you watched the show or read spark notes/wiki or something. On point 3… I guess, to each their own.
by Guilty-Peanut2 months ago
If you don't know the definition of a plot hole then I can't expect you to understand either of the two plots.
by jenningsmitchel2 months ago
Its a tv show, a program...
by candelariowillm2 months ago
Did you watch these shows?? Some of your details are wrong
by Anonymous2 months ago
Lighten up Francis.
by ondrickakristof2 months ago
Nice job ChatGPT
by TopAwareness15052 months ago
Not sure Don Eladio cared so much about what Gus was up to across the border as long as he kept bringing in money. He already didn't trust Gus but Gus was good enough to be more valuable alive.
by Anonymous2 months ago
Good thing a lot of people didn't watch Better call Saul, but everyone watched Breaking Bad.
by Anonymous2 months ago
I watched it beginning to end. It peaked a good few episodes before it ended. And I had expectations from the start that were never met. I wanted to see Saul. A few whole seasons of Jimmy as Saul. So much of the show, while admittedly well done. Were just spinning wheels. 6 seasons across 7 years and we never got one full episode of Saul in his heyday. A few at the end of miserable Gene. But never Saul as full blow tacky Saul .
by Sharp-Engineering4722 months ago
Breaking Bad is the series where Walt lets a girl die, which causes her dad who works at flight control to lose focus, which in turn causes two planes to crash right over Walt's house. Let's not deify Breaking Bad by pretending that there weren't always a questionable writing decision or two.
by Anonymous2 months ago
Bro has no clue what a plot hole even is
by No_Adeptness_72742 months ago
It is implied several times throughout the series that Walt has built Jr a state-of-the-art handi-accesible bathroom that's in his room. It's never shown because it's never relative to the plot.
by Infinite_Ad_10972 months ago
Man, just no. Its fine to not like a show. But you've gotta actually watch the show to complain like this, not just watch some clips on TikTok.
by Anonymous2 months ago
you definetely didn't watch the show, many of your points literally objectively go against what happened in better call saul
by Anonymous2 months ago
ummm with all due respect you're just very confused
by Lueilwitzdaniel2 months ago
This.
by Anonymous2 months ago
Completely disagree
by connorleuschke2 months ago
Correct.
by Lexiedamore2 months ago
I liked Better Call Saul more than Breaking Bad and I have a freakin chemistry degree.
by One-Cardiologist2 months ago
I have an accounting background and I can't stand The Ozark. He's like "here's my expert knowledge on money laundering" and essentially reads off the first paragraph of the Wikipedia page.
by Carrollclifton2 months ago
To be fair he's explaining money laundering for the audience's benefit rather than forcing his knowledge. As a consumer facing accountant it makes sense he'd explain a concept like money laundering in simple, understandable ways.
by jefferey332 months ago
The bigger point is watching a show about something you seem to know better than the writers, but I'd argue the explanation was so dumbed down it fell short of a proper explanation.
by Carrollclifton2 months ago
I really soured on it when I learned you can roll a minivan multiple times without getting injured.
by Anonymous2 months ago
Terrible take.
by FearlessPublic92552 months ago
Better Call Saul is so funny because it's such a mid show but its fans are so rabidly defensive of it. I think they're extra confident bc they're wearing the armor of Breaking Bad's legacy + good reviews. Such a silly show and fan base though
by webster882 months ago
People like different things maybe? Whatever you typed doesn't even make sense. I like Better caul Saul. So I'm extra confident bc I'm wearing the armor of breaking bads legacy? Lol what kinda slop is that
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I'm pretty sure you don't understand how opinions work.
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