Better Call Saul retroactively makes Breaking Bad significantly worse, amirite?

While I don't really get the first one, and I disagree with the second, I'm with you on the third point. I call it Star Wars Lore syndrome, where nothing can ever just be a line and be left as a mystery, every single little detail and character has to get their own lore page and explanation.

by norwoodjohns 2 months ago

Hahaha. Because Han really did complete the Kessel run in less than 12 parsecs, because that was clearly not a mistake in the script, but showed a clear understanding of relativistic travel. Or his piloting skill near black holes. Or whatever.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

I totally get where you're coming from and dislike that with something's as well. I do think that kind of story telling where each story builds off each other has a place in media. I'd also say that it fits breaking bad really well.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Yeah I feel like comparing Albuquerque to the entire Star Wars universe is insane. Especially considering BB consists of two shows and a movie, all about the same characters. So of course, the same characters show up. And even still, BCS has a ton of main characters who are not present in BB: Kim and Nacho mainly, Lalo and Howard, Chuck.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Not just star wars. Here, have a three episode arc explaining why klingon make up changed rather than just taking the wink and a nod line in an anniversary episode as just that.

by liza79 2 months ago

Cinemasins and it's consequences have been a disaster for the human race

by wardjazmin 2 months ago

Mike didnt work for Gus yet in Better Call Saul, im confused how thats a plothole.

by Alexandriaquitz 2 months ago

For real. It's like people expect characters to act exactly how they pwrsonally would have in that situation and if they don't It's a plot hole

by Anonymous 2 months ago

The plot hole armor thiccens 🧐

by wilburn83 2 months ago

I've seen the documentary, and all full blown adults can watch is "Ow! My Balls!"

by Glittering_Site1397 2 months ago

Or it was explained, but they were probably on their phone

by Anonymous 2 months ago

I think it's implying that he eventually works for Gus and if Helctor has a good memory, would grow suspicious upon seeing Mike again. But yeah not really a plot hole.

by Regular_Rutabaga 2 months ago

I mean, it doesn't really matter if Hector grows anymore suspicious upon seeing Mike because at this point he already knows that Gus killed Lalo

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Yeah I dunno how everyone missed that. It's not really a plot hole, just not that beleiveable. Fiction can never be perfect.

by Acceptable_Eye 2 months ago

Wait. Mike absolutely worked for Gus in "better call Saul". Didn't he run the surveillance at his house ? Didn't he manage the people working the construction of the meth lab?

by Anonymous 2 months ago

That's long after the kerfuffle with Tuco.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

I misread and am an idiot

by Anonymous 2 months ago

the "plothole" is that they couldn't have possibly made up after that and worked together, but honestly they could've. When the scene ends, Tuco laughs because he understands that this was all part of Mike's plan, and he has a good sense of humor so he laughs it off and gives him another headbutt

by WorthDinner6050 2 months ago

Mike and Tuco never worked together

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Right, as far as i know they have no idea Mike worked for gus. That was the whole point of the secret underground lair

by Collinhaley 2 months ago

I will say now a REAL unpopular opinion here. Mike is a dumb character. I always hated his guts.

by TinyShock3446 2 months ago

They literally show the scene where Hector tells Eladio that it was Gus who killed Lalo and Eladio doesn't believe him because all the evidence point to him just trying to off the man he's always hated.

by Logical_Produce9141 2 months ago

Not to mention Nacho's iconic rant. Which seems to convince Hector, considering how he unloads bullets on his corpse.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

DEENG DEENG DEENG DEENG…

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Plot hole=I wasn't paying attention lol

by Anonymous 2 months ago

I live in Albuquerque and it's unironically not that big lol

by Hungry-Investment 2 months ago

I visited ABQ and toured round all the BB locations on a bicycle and , yeah, it ain't that big

by huelmaddison 2 months ago

They've got some great breweries for sure. And tangentially, as a Wisconsinite, it was somewhat "comforting" to know there are cities with more drinking problems than us 😬

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Not only that but Don Eladio favors Gus, because he is a producer, far exceeding the Salamancas. That's clearly built up over the series. Gus constantly 1ups Hector, Gus does that to be seen as equal to the rest of the families. Op has an opinion full of plot holes while BCS has really tried to cover all of them

by Future-Musician-6204 2 months ago

Also, as Hector himself says to Lalo on the phone, he needs proof, which he was in the process of getting when Gus killed him.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Absolutely incorrect and brainrotted take

by Jolly_Grapefruit2970 2 months ago

Yup. OP has the IQ of Tuco.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Albuquerque isn't that big

by jacobsoneliza 2 months ago

Did you try watching it with your eyes open?

by Anonymous 2 months ago

If you look at any TV series or movie with a microscope you'll find plot holes. Breaking Bad/Better Call Saul is no exception.

by Kuhicjeanne 2 months ago

Honestly my biggest issue is how quickly things happen. Jesse's house is renovated, he gets hurt and heals several times, he does rehab all in about a year

by Anonymous 2 months ago

That's more unrealistic than the millions they were making off producing meth in an Rv in the desert?

by Anonymous 2 months ago

All I know about meth is from BB so I can't really say

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Well I play schedule 1, and I can tell you its possible

by Lawsonkoepp 2 months ago

Considering it's got a 98% rotten tomatoes score and a 9/10 imdb rating yeah I would agree this opinion is unpopular lol.

by rogelio02 2 months ago

It's less unpopular and more just wrong Not liking BCS is an opinion Claiming it's bad and listing a bunch of things op didn't understand is just idiotic.

by Emotional_Box 2 months ago

For what it's worth I don't entirely disagree with you but their scores are often pretty on point with how a show or movie is received by the general audience. There have been times I disagree with their ratings but generally I agree. Better Call Saul specifically though is raved about among fans of Breaking Bad and can honestly be watched entirely without watching a single episode of Breaking Bad and its still an incredible show. That's just my opinion on it though.

by rogelio02 2 months ago

You must be absolutely fun to watch movies with...

by cliffordhilll 2 months ago

What went down that drove Mike out of Philly? Did you even watch the show?

by Anonymous 2 months ago

OP's point is that in BB you don't know but BCS just tells you. Don't know why it's a bad thing, though?

by No-Guidance-9047 2 months ago

Yeah, it's not like he left for some lame reason like he beat someone who mouthed off or whatever. The backstory they filled in was compelling and added a lot of texture to Mike and how he views criminality.

by EfficiencyHuge28 2 months ago

I actually rather enjoy the scene with Mike getting run out of Philly in almost every way. From the premise he only kinda gets away with it because of his cop buddies to the actual setup for it

by hellenmarquardt 2 months ago

On the first one. Mike didn't work for gus then. Mike wasn't Gus's first hand man and was doing odd jobs. Like the weird little guy who got his baseball cards stolen. More seriously, later in the series Hector becomes fully aware of Gus's treachery against the cartel. He's aware Gus kills Lalo. In Breaking Bad it's shown he is still active and communicating, as he does with Tuco and the Cousins. So this would imply in the years between the two series, he just kind of lets everything he learned in Better Call Saul go and never makes his family do anything about it. It was established his links were broken, the cartel was seriously crippled by the attack on the Cartel Compound and Gus's poisoning of the high players. He won on his side. His big link back home was Lalo, Lalo was one of the last big players he had left. Tuco was a low end dealer moving stuff to people like Jesse Pinkman, he was lower management. The Cousins were just hitmen and were direct family so they took him seriously. He was always cognitive. In Better Call Saul, the timeline puts it at him having been doing this for about four years (the main plot ends with Kim leaving him in 2004, Breaking Bad starts in 2008). His huge and impressive network of criminal contacts is implied to be mostly inherited from obtaining ownership of the vet's notebook. This makes him so much lamer. He got A LOT closer with Mike and Gus. With that comes perks like access to more resources as well as just having to deal with issues and learning of people via working for gus. There also weren't that many really, you probably named most of them. Also it turns out that Saul and Mike have repeatedly run into Tuco in completely independent contexts before Jesse and Walt do. Apparently Albuquerque isn't that big. How much of Albuquerque do you think are involved in the drug business? You're going to come across people like Tuco if you're involved locally.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

I think its symbolic.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Jimmy cut corners on everything. Collecting all of his criminal contacts through a single black book is totally in character for him.

by walker90 2 months ago

But mandela, we need to cook.

by Carrollclifton 2 months ago

Oh yeah, I forgot that it's opposite day

by Anonymous 2 months ago

There are plot holes in pretty much every show, including these two, but pretty much every question you asked can be answered. In fact some directly influence main plot points lol.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Also... Plot holes aren't what people seem to think are plot holes. Most shows don't actually have plot holes. It's just a missed term that usually means, "I don't understand this part".

by Apprehensive_Date 2 months ago

I don't agree with all these plot holes but in the end this is the curse of the prequel. You're writing to known ending and it just makes a less interesting story overall

by Lexiedamore 2 months ago

Why would anyone avoid the better one of the two shows?

by Anonymous 2 months ago

As someone who lives in Albuquerque, it really isn't that big. Not surprising that competing drug dealers would encounter each other often

by Anonymous 2 months ago

On point 1 and 2, I'm curious if you watched the show or read spark notes/wiki or something. On point 3… I guess, to each their own.

by Guilty-Peanut 2 months ago

If you don't know the definition of a plot hole then I can't expect you to understand either of the two plots.

by jenningsmitchel 2 months ago

Its a tv show, a program...

by candelariowillm 2 months ago

Did you watch these shows?? Some of your details are wrong

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Lighten up Francis.

by ondrickakristof 2 months ago

Nice job ChatGPT

by TopAwareness1505 2 months ago

Not sure Don Eladio cared so much about what Gus was up to across the border as long as he kept bringing in money. He already didn't trust Gus but Gus was good enough to be more valuable alive.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Good thing a lot of people didn't watch Better call Saul, but everyone watched Breaking Bad.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

I watched it beginning to end. It peaked a good few episodes before it ended. And I had expectations from the start that were never met. I wanted to see Saul. A few whole seasons of Jimmy as Saul. So much of the show, while admittedly well done. Were just spinning wheels. 6 seasons across 7 years and we never got one full episode of Saul in his heyday. A few at the end of miserable Gene. But never Saul as full blow tacky Saul .

by Sharp-Engineering472 2 months ago

Breaking Bad is the series where Walt lets a girl die, which causes her dad who works at flight control to lose focus, which in turn causes two planes to crash right over Walt's house. Let's not deify Breaking Bad by pretending that there weren't always a questionable writing decision or two.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Bro has no clue what a plot hole even is

by No_Adeptness_7274 2 months ago

It is implied several times throughout the series that Walt has built Jr a state-of-the-art handi-accesible bathroom that's in his room. It's never shown because it's never relative to the plot.

by Infinite_Ad_1097 2 months ago

Man, just no. Its fine to not like a show. But you've gotta actually watch the show to complain like this, not just watch some clips on TikTok.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

you definetely didn't watch the show, many of your points literally objectively go against what happened in better call saul

by Anonymous 2 months ago

ummm with all due respect you're just very confused

by Lueilwitzdaniel 2 months ago

This.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Completely disagree

by connorleuschke 2 months ago

Correct.

by Lexiedamore 2 months ago

I liked Better Call Saul more than Breaking Bad and I have a freakin chemistry degree.

by One-Cardiologist 2 months ago

I have an accounting background and I can't stand The Ozark. He's like "here's my expert knowledge on money laundering" and essentially reads off the first paragraph of the Wikipedia page.

by Carrollclifton 2 months ago

To be fair he's explaining money laundering for the audience's benefit rather than forcing his knowledge. As a consumer facing accountant it makes sense he'd explain a concept like money laundering in simple, understandable ways.

by jefferey33 2 months ago

The bigger point is watching a show about something you seem to know better than the writers, but I'd argue the explanation was so dumbed down it fell short of a proper explanation.

by Carrollclifton 2 months ago

I really soured on it when I learned you can roll a minivan multiple times without getting injured.

by Anonymous 2 months ago

Terrible take.

by FearlessPublic9255 2 months ago

Better Call Saul is so funny because it's such a mid show but its fans are so rabidly defensive of it. I think they're extra confident bc they're wearing the armor of Breaking Bad's legacy + good reviews. Such a silly show and fan base though

by webster88 2 months ago

People like different things maybe? Whatever you typed doesn't even make sense. I like Better caul Saul. So I'm extra confident bc I'm wearing the armor of breaking bads legacy? Lol what kinda slop is that

by Anonymous 2 months ago

I'm pretty sure you don't understand how opinions work.

by Anonymous 2 months ago