-50 If teens aren't mentally developed enough to face the same legal consequence an adult would for their actions then they shouldn't be allowed to be out and about, driving, and otherwise doing as they please without a parent or guardian present. Or, if they can be independent, they can face the law. amirite?

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

teens have been doing this internet trend thing where they show up in the hundreds and damage property and threaten people I don't think they have been, actually?

by Due_Explanation 2 weeks ago

Teens have done this for decades and TikTok is but a medium of organizing. You just have to roll your eyes and understand every generation will do this to some degree.

by Direct_Review_174 2 weeks ago

This is nothing. I read that back in the 60s and 70s they would gather in large fields and listen to what we now know as "classic rock" while smoking marijuana cigarettes.

by Pretend_Leek 2 weeks ago

Reefers?

by macie88 2 weeks ago

Yea. They'd smoke two joins in the morning then smoke two joins at night.

by lucy35 2 weeks ago

I smoke two joints in times of peace

by Popular-Display-2073 2 weeks ago

TWO WHOLE JOINTS at once?? Do they wanna OD?

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

First I'm hearing about it.

by schneidersammie 2 weeks ago

Tiktok, dangerous trens been happening for a while

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Thennnn that's not to blame teens everywhere for

by Southern-Feedback354 2 weeks ago

Of course it's an Ohio thing

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Only in Ohio 🥀

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Nah happens in Vegas too. They gather up and run through malls or public places wreaking havoc and looting. Happened a couple of times at the very least

by Icy_Relation 2 weeks ago

Yes, they have been. This is an apparently growing problem in Chicago, where the mayor still refuses to implement a curfew. Here in Detroit, they ARE trying to get a handle on it with a 10:00pm curfew (for 16 and under, 11:00pm for seventeen year olds) and charging parents if their kids are caught after hours.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

So...teens shouldn't be allowed "out and about" (aka in public?) without adult supervision? Am I getting this right? Because that is probably the stupidest idea I've ever heard, and I'm not even a teen.

by Adorable_Piglet7432 2 weeks ago

Former UPS driver here. The less people on the road the better. Make it 18, hell make it 21. Also, I would absolutely love it if we could please normalize cognitive testing for elderly drivers.

by hilllblair 2 weeks ago

Are you from America? We are not set up around public transportation, and without cars teens would be stuck in the house all the time and never learn independence.

by Careful-Bus-2976 2 weeks ago

I actually agree that driving needs reform. I just don't think it's possible without a good alternative system to get around in place first.

by Careful-Bus-2976 2 weeks ago

Disagree on making it 21. 18 year olds need jobs. They need a car to get to said jobs.

by Southern-Feedback354 2 weeks ago

but if you agree with op that teenagers arent developed enough ti be treated as adults then they shouldn't have jobs

by MethodNo 2 weeks ago

100%

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

21? Nah. Make 15 Minute Cities and abolish personal cars altogether!

by Homenickhal 2 weeks ago

You've created this false binary. The law doesn't go all one or all the other but frequently will treat them as adults for certain things they should know, and provides slightly lighter standards for others.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I get where you're coming from, but you're jumping to extremes. If kids are never allowed outside without a parent until adulthood, how will they learn independence? Many kids walk to school alone - are they not supposed to? Teens should face consequences for their actions, but from their parents, not the legal system. It's a parent's job to guide them into becoming responsible adults. If that doesn't happen by the time they reach adulthood, that's when legal consequences come into play.

by Cletusoberbrunn 2 weeks ago

Yeah because saying "it's the job of the parents" when parents are failing to do that job doesn't solve the problem. Gov through data can identify the scale of certain problems and implement policy to address them while the "it's the job of the parents" people never see any change because they don't do anything to change that behavior.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Wouldn't it depend on what the do that requires them to be disciplined? Like, if they break the law, then shouldn't the government be the exact entity to step in? The way I see it is, the parents should be working to prevent them from breaking the law. But, once they do, they need to face the consequences of the broken law.

by Sharp_Echidna3891 2 weeks ago

I agree, but they should not be given the sentences adults get. I consider most of those too high even for adults, but they are absolutely ridiculous for teens.

by Careful-Bus-2976 2 weeks ago

LMAO Oh, please, I've seen kids cuss and throw stuff at their parents before with no repercussions. These kids aren't going to be corrected by their parents because in their parents' eyes, they do no wrong. They absolutely need to face legal consequences because their parents aren't going to do anything but go, "we dont do that." The amount of parents who yelled at me for not letting their teenage brats take something is a stupid amount.

by americo27 2 weeks ago

True, but society shouldn't have to suffer due to lazy parents. If a parent has no problem with their teen harming people or causing problems, then it does fall on the government.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Zero consequences??? Have you never heard of Juvi? My brother went to jail for SIX MONTHS when he was 15.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Yup. I hate how people act like months or years in jail is nothing. There have been 12-year-olds tried as adults too, so I don't get why OP thinks kids aren't punished.

by Careful-Bus-2976 2 weeks ago

so I don't get why OP thinks kids aren't punished. Because in some countries, they don't.

by Business-Fondant-314 2 weeks ago

Yes lets stunt kids growth even more by taking their independence away.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I'm saying charge them as adults and let them stay independent as an option. The idea of taking their independence away is an extreme consequence necessitated by giving them carte blanche for chaos by getting rid of legal consequences for them.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Where do kids have carte blanche for committing crimes? Where are there no legal consequences? Did you just make this up in your head that there isn't any?

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Likely quite a few with that kind of black & white thinking unfortunately

by Southern-Feedback354 2 weeks ago

We cannot say they are a special class of being that cannot be held responsible for committing crimes AND they can do whatever they want. That is insane. This is not a true statement. Just because kids are not charged as adults regularly does not mean they face zero repercussions. You realize Juvenile Detention facilities exist in the US right?

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Let's coddle kids some more.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I mean they absolutely can be tried as adults I've watched a lot of true crime I've seen as young as 13 and 14 get tried as adults

by Successful-Jury2183 2 weeks ago

I've heard of 12-year-olds being tried as adults, and some places apparently will automatically try anyone over the age of 10 who's committed certain crimes as adults.

by Careful-Bus-2976 2 weeks ago

It's called incremental progress. People need time and opportunity to slowly take on more and more responsibility.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I disagree. Kids in their single-digits are often allow to go around their neighborhood unsupervised, and that is good for them. But a 9-year-old should never be tried as an adult.\ \ I think minors should never be tried as adults, but I can see how their privileges might scale with the charges get can catch. It actually isn't this way now - a 12-year-old, who is typically viewed as being unable to make any of their own decisions, can be tried as an adult.

by Careful-Bus-2976 2 weeks ago

There are consequences, but the idiots causing property damage are usually not in a position where those actions will matter. Unemployment, low end jobs or criminal activities don't discriminate.

by Miserable_Baker251 2 weeks ago

Lately teens have been doing this internet trend thing where they show up in the hundreds and damage property and threaten people. I don't think this has been a widespread or common issue. I'm not saying it never happens but it doesn't happen often. B.) teens should be treated as a high risk, potentially dangerous, special class of people that have nearly the strength and intelligence of an adult but lack the mental capacity to follow laws. Thus they should not be charged as adults for crimes, and since this means they can and likely will commit crimes, they should not be allowed outside the home without parent or guardian, or other adult chaperone supervision. If the adult can't keep them in line, then the teen should be put into an institution of some kind until their brains are developed. So we need to treat teens like they will commit crimes? You don't see the issue here?

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

In Iowa, Rosewood is the detainment facility for preteen girls. Mitchellville is for girls under 18 and Anamosa is for boys under 18. There's probably I need for preteen boys, but,I don't know the name. I only know about Rosewood, because a friend had a problem with her 12 year old daughter being influenced by her father that it was okay for poor people to steal. He said that there would be no consequences,because of her age. Yeah,maybe when Dad was 10.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Well said.

by One_Equivalent 2 weeks ago

Good take, but dangerous step closer to authoritarianism

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

Crime is down. Has been trending down for decades. Your exposure to teen crime is what went up.

by eriberto10 2 weeks ago

Gotta love generalizing groups of people /s

by Lisandro02 2 weeks ago

I'm willing to bet the rate at which it does so drops off significantly after 26

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

What you're missing is that the development comes as a result of being outside and doing things. If you keep teenagers in a box until they are mature then you'll be waiting forever.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

I'm sure op was a perfect angel as a teenager

by Even-Release 2 weeks ago

I'm sure they weren't which might be why they made this

by turcottelilyan 2 weeks ago

There have been children - yes, pre-teens, tried as adults. Kids and teens absolutely do get punished. Even the sentences for people tried as juveniles are ridiculous.

by Careful-Bus-2976 2 weeks ago

Generally speaking, I get what you mean. Human beings have mismatched bodily capabilities and mental capabilities. In the way that toddlers are people with child bodies and baby brains, teens are humans with adult bodies and child brains. I think we give teens a bit too much leeway when it comes to their actions matching their consequences. I am on the side of enforcing more consequences because I think the other choice of trying to force more parental responsibility and supervision is a pipe dream.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

The problem is that these punishments leave the kids worse off. Being in jail for years does you no good and often ruins your chance at a future.

by Careful-Bus-2976 2 weeks ago

Reminds me of presidents. If they can be president, they can follow the law.

by Several-Line 2 weeks ago

JFC OP

by Normal-Training-4182 2 weeks ago

Dumb opinion

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

If anything, I'd argue in a lot of cases kids are being overcharged as adults for things that are very related to being a dumb kid.

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

😂😂😂 make a kid movie about OP. Elderly woman or men peaking through their curtain and swearing at kids

by Anonymous 2 weeks ago

This reminds me of the time Henry Kissinger told my mom she looked like a cross between Bill Pullman and Louis Gosset Jr. its like thanks for ur service brah

by Amazing-Company 2 weeks ago