Young people have important gaps in their knowledge now and it is their own fault. amirite?

General mechanical knowledge. Mechanics of what ... ? Physics. Why physics ... ? Problem solving?? Other things????

by Josianneheathco 4 days ago

Eh, a general knowledge of physics (weight, balance, distribution, friction, etc.) can help more than people realize in problem solving. OP is being too vague though. Their point is correct I'd argue, but their lack of detail is working against them.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Mechanics of what ... ? Anything. They lack the skills to fix things and understand the world around them. You are looking for an excuse not to understand the premise.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

You aren't supposing a premise, you're just telling vague nonsense to the wind

by Grahamrhianna 4 days ago

You aren't explaining the premise at all

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Seems like a lot of other people understood it. Maybe you aren't very smart.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

You're cherry picking the scatterplot of people who accidentally understood it… lol.

by Long_Atmosphere1914 4 days ago

What premise? Mechanics of what? I just asked because these are vague words that don't mean anything specific. Yes the picture might be clear in your head but it'll help to be more specific if you wanna get it across.

by Josianneheathco 4 days ago

I'm 23 and work as lead machinist in my factory. This was not directed at you but thanks for checking in. I worked one summer in a machine shop and never made it past the cutoff saw and I am 54 and still can't use SolidWorks despite there being a real need for it in my life. I hope things go good for you and keep up the hard work.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

There's never been a time where gaining that knowledge is easier via the internet/youtube. Yup. Doesn't mean it's being accessed. I unfairly targeted the young here, too but they are especially screwed as they grew up with the smart phones and consider their knowledge generally infallible. Such an awful combo.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

As they get older and need it they'll access it. I wasn't nearly as handy when 22 and was intimidated a bit in the lumber yard. Experience and practice changed that a lot. Had a couple of young guys teach me how to weld and they were quite a bit better than I am at it. Basically because they had the experience.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Significantly more a parenting issue tbh...

by Anonymous 4 days ago

i would call it the educations fault or the fault of the parents, not strictly the persons fault

by Kuphalcatalina 4 days ago

I never thinking anyone under like 20 should know stuff. Often it's parents who stamp out curiosity. And teachers are exhausted and told to only teach curriculums ONLY. I had an ex learning how to sweep at 22. His mom NEVER had him sweep.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

There's a lot of privilege in being curious about the world, you are right. Lots of people could do better though.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Ok but who's job is it to teach young people?

by Anonymous 4 days ago

It's not just on the teachers, it's on the parents too. The children aren't devils, they were raised by someone. We can't just have an entire generation of unruly kids then point the blame at the kids, that's insanity

by Anonymous 4 days ago

This is the argument I always make against parents being proud of their kids for how they raised them. Parents/society will always point out how good of a job the parents did raising a kid if the kid grows up to do good. But the second theres a kid that doesn't perform well, it's never the parents fault. I never understood why society does that

by tiannazulauf 4 days ago

People notice the negative things more. So the kids who are trying to learn get overlooked by complainers. Besides, parents and educators are the ones who are supposed to teach kids to enjoy learning - few kids naturally want to be trapped in a room all day, memorizing stuff that they see no use for.\ \ Also, life skills haven't been a main thing in most schools for a while. At best you'll get a few electives that are even more one-size-fits-all than normal classes, and have limited space.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Yes, but today when a kid says, "F you. I don't want to learn.", you're legally bound to listen to them. Hard discipline has its place. That, and good teachers wouldn't want to teach kids who can get away with abusing and in some cases acting out violently towards them.

by Tyrabrown 4 days ago

Yes there are issues with the education system, and it would help if the system were funded. There isn't even a need for hard discipline, summer school and being held back needs to come back. There needs to be some real repercussions for not putting effort into class and not doing well. Failing grades are rarely given Heck, I'm nearly 27 and this was a problem when I was in school too. But this too, is not the child's fault. OP is pinning the blame on the children, I'm simply trying to say it's not the child's job to entirely teach themselves. It's the adults. Not just the teachers, not just the parents. Government funding plays a big part in this, as well as litigation on things around social media.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

You're right. Kids have always known to say F you and everything else. Previously, teachers and parents didn't have to stand for it and could put them in their place. That has changed, clearly to the detriment of the kids themselves, because of naive adults and illogical and misplaced empathy. Need to go back to the less flawed system that worked and chart a better, more balanced, course forward.

by Tyrabrown 4 days ago

Teachers can still punish kids, even for things they didn't do. They definitely need more support but the kids themselves are rarely the main problem.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Kids, myself included, have always been uncivilised, impulsive savages. It's an evolutionary requirement. It's literally the job of parents and teachers to find the balance between teaching them civility while not dampening their curiosity and creativity. Previously, parents and teachers had the support they needed to do this. Now, saying the wrong thing can get a teacher suspended or child protective services involved. There's no exaggeration here. The previous system wasn't perfect, but it objectively produced better results than the current one in terms of more resilient and ready-for-life kids. We need to go back to it and find another path forward.

by Tyrabrown 4 days ago

Correct, it's the parents

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Or is their parents fault for letting YouTube raise them?

by Beau97 4 days ago

I'll give an example where that's not true. I have a friend whose wife's job employs college kids and she manages the cars they make available for them to get to work. Frequently she'll have one that can't figure out how to fill the car with gas, and frequently each of these employees does it several times. Fair enough that they probably weren't taught this by somebody. However, I'm pretty sure it was a single lesson for me. There's no reason for it to be a repeat problem. There's also no reason with YouTube that this employee couldn't have figured it out. They don't even try.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Yeah buddy that's generally how history works. The things that happen in the past affect the future going all the way back to the beginning of time.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

100%, that's my main point.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I play a lot of video games my problem solving skills do not lack. I collect trolleys at a supermarket and let me tell you there are so many people older than me that can't work out how to connect the trolleys together

by AskIllustrious 4 days ago

It's not always old people it can be people there 50s, 40s and 30s. Any age can lack these skills

by AskIllustrious 4 days ago

I've seen plenty of smart young people out there, I'm not old myself either, but as a tradesman in career life, people might be surprised I have knowledge of coding or that I love to cook. That's because people wouldn't assume anything about me they can't see. In that same way, I think we don't see everything this younger generation has to offer. It's easy to point at bad examples, especially now, with everything accessible on phones. But millenials, Generation X, and boomers all had terrible examples of their generation, too. Every generation has moments like this, feeling those who come next aren't up to the task, but it's not the truth.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Ok boomer

by Anonymous 4 days ago

I'd blame the education system, they never interested people enough in being curious about how anything works really. We were taught to regurgitate answers for test scores and it's only getting worse with AI

by janicklebsack 4 days ago

Though I do wish I could help more when it comes to fixing/building things. It would also save money. The smartest ship engineer got me out of a bind once and as he left simply said "Proper application of force." It sounds like it would be hard for you to get practice too. Honestly I am kind of garbage at fixing things but like you said, it saves a ton of money. If you ever build stuff just remember to make sure everything is 100% square. As a rookie (I am one too), trying to work with stuf that doesn't line up is a skill I don't have. It sounds like you are a thougtful person and thsnks for checking in.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Balance in all things. We lose certain skills they might not come back.

by Anonymous 4 days ago

Could this not just be the result of a more specialized workforce

by lockmanben 3 days ago

It's the result of a lot of things but the root cause is a lack of curiosity.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Whay do you see? I'm curious. Where do you live, what are the young people doing there?

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I mean, technically people can learn these things though exposure as well,practice and development.

by Theron37 3 days ago

did the young people create the world and conditions of today? no

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Big "previous generation likes to complain about the next" energy.

by brigitteboyer 3 days ago

I don't know about the specific skills OP mentions. The younger generations do have issues with general mental math, work ethic, and I guess I would call it life planning from what I can tell.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

You're right.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Soooo many old people that think they know this stuff and also still think engines are carbureted. Plenty of barely functional cogs in the big machine spread out across every generation.

by Neat_Structure 3 days ago

Plenty of barely functional cogs in the big machine spread out across every generation. Correct but our lack of technical involvement in our lives has snowballed I believe.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I think you find people of all ages have gaps like that, not just young people.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Yeah but things have gotten bad enough around here that the kids better straighten up because they have to fix things. I am not joking and even though I am old I can help.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

How well do you know Morse Code or how to churn butter or do a woven splice? Because it's about as relevant. Seriously…

by Long_Atmosphere1914 3 days ago

I think it's a general lack of curiosity because of this doomer mindset.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Instantly knowing everything bad that goes on in the world can't be conducive to learning. That and destroying any hope of gaining resilience by creating a sanitised world and relegating all conflict to therapy.

by Tyrabrown 3 days ago

All of muh guh slept through history class apparently. Ged heroes

by Anonymous 3 days ago

this generation is not lacking what they need to keep the world going ...and not much more.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Sounds more like a bias

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Probably. I feel like older people suffer from the same gaps but there's less Dunning Krueger because they didn't grow up with the certainty of fact that the internet seems to provide you.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Everything is on the internet, my friend. My dad didn't teach me how to cut wood straight but I mamaged to make a bunch of the best foosball tables you ever saw. I learned 100% of these skills for free on the internet. The concept that escaped you wasn't specific things you weren't taught, it was to have curiosity about the outside world.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I agree that a lot of young people lack basic skills, but it's often not our fault. We were never taught these things, and often don't have the resources to learn them on our own. Online tutorials assume you already have certain knowledge and tools.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

What kinds of projects have you been involved in? I'm interested. I've done a few too and I always, always run out of talent (knowledge). The science gets too heavy. I'vr usually managed to muddle through.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Unfortunately, not much. I've tried online tutorials for things like cooking, but they assume a level of skill and knowledge that I don't have. My sensory issues don't help.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

I've tried online tutorials for things like cooking, but they assume a level of skill and knowledge that I don't have. What is your easiest way to learn?

by Anonymous 3 days ago

They don't value life experience. They think if you can't find something on the internet then it's absolute and not worth their effort. They think that their lives are unique with the various challenges and they disregard anything that older people have experienced because " everything is different now" Actually it's not that different but you feel the need to be special and we didn't have that luxury. Keep looking for all of the answers to life's questions on your phone and I'll be busy unclogging the toilet the old fashioned way!

by Anonymous 3 days ago