Animal lives don't really matter relative to human lives, amirite?

If I had to choose between saving you or my dog from drowning, you'd better hope someone else is coming for you.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Simple decision for me.

by Perfect-Owl 3 days ago

Humans are animals.

by Civil-Wheel 3 days ago

Humans are a higher class though or at least we put ourselves in one.

by Vonruedenbettye 3 days ago

What is a "higher class"?

by Anonymous 3 days ago

We can make fire and pay taxes.

by Civil-Wheel 3 days ago

Speak for yourself

by EconomistNo2320 3 days ago

Can you not make a fire?

by Civil-Wheel 3 days ago

Given tool use, yes! Though even with tool use I fail to pay my taxes

by EconomistNo2320 3 days ago

I get you are sarcastic but I really wonder what would happen if a "higher class" of aliens showed up and started eating humans and treating them like livestock. Would he be okay with it using this same logic? Something tells me no....

by Anonymous 3 days ago

He probably thinks he is a higher class of human as well so he might be a pet instead of livestock.

by Civil-Wheel 3 days ago

Every animal sees themself that way, it's all a part of self preservation.

by Civil-Wheel 3 days ago

How is this even remotely unpopular when such a small percentage of the population are vegan?

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Ask these morons flaming me 🤷

by leanne71 3 days ago

Psychopath spotted.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

The way you think is called "ignorance."

by Anonymous 3 days ago

How so? I don't think animals don't matter, but I think on average the life of a human means more than the average animal. If I had to chose between a random puppy and a random baby, I'd chose the baby every time

by Anonymous 3 days ago

nah that baby better call their parents cuz I'm saving that puppy

by Infamous-Message5863 3 days ago

Well everyone would choose that even animal lovers, the question is between random baby and your dog that you had for 10 years.

by SortGlittering 3 days ago

I'd still choose the baby.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

because animals are innocent in our eyes, not knowing what they're doing, not really having a conscious. it's like a baby dying

by Wrong-Boysenberry548 3 days ago

Humans are the most wicked of all the animals

by Anonymous 3 days ago

The majority of people have Aristocratic feelings about animals, some animals are WORTHY of life, like their pets, and others are UNWORTHY of life, such as their food. Everyone who eats meat, agrees on this principle. You can say you don't, but your actions prove otherwise. It doesn't matter what you say, it matters what you do.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

True and if a higher class of species that proves to be more powerful than us appears such as aliens, then our lives mean nothing compared to their superior power. But I bet most people will be begging for mercy and sympathy from our alien overlords even though they have no reason to listen. Treat others how you want them to treat you. You treat every other form of life as inferior, don't be surprised if you get looked down and left to rot either.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Dogs give you unconditional love.... humans on the other hand normally don't. Tell me again animal lives don't really matter...

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Not all dogs do that.

by Vonruedenbettye 3 days ago

Terrible opinion. resource depletion is real, we are just another animal, except we don't often serve our wildlife or plant life bc people like you. Most of these animals are becoming threatened/going extinct over time so better appreciate them while they're still around

by Emma94 3 days ago

Yeah no, if I had to choose my cats over you, you might as well get it over with now. Hell, I don't even know you.

by daytonvolkman 3 days ago

So you choose your own comfort over the life of another human?

by Vonruedenbettye 3 days ago

Yes. I'm not obligated to save you and you wouldn't even be grateful because you're already heavily assuming i will in fact save you, since it's supposed to be the human thing to do or want to do.

by daytonvolkman 3 days ago

? Ok? I feel like you're going for the most low hanging fruit here. I'm obviously far more complex than you would ever see from this interaction.

by daytonvolkman 3 days ago

???

by daytonvolkman 3 days ago

I guess that went over your head.

by Vonruedenbettye 3 days ago

No it didn't, I just don't think it's very accurate to be honest.

by daytonvolkman 3 days ago

It's ok to admit it went over your head. It was a play on the sociopathic nature of the conversation.

by Vonruedenbettye 3 days ago

Definitely a sociopath 😂

by Vonruedenbettye 3 days ago

If you say so, I am what you assigned me as from the start. Another thing is, I don't think you're actually using the serious diagnosis of sociopath correctly either. You should research more about it.

by daytonvolkman 3 days ago

Saving someone in front of you and saving the future are two totally different things. If I'm in a flood type situation, I'm saving a human stranger over my animals. That's not what this person is saying.

by Vonruedenbettye 3 days ago

That depends heavily on the circumstances of the crisis in hand. Is it convenient and easy to save them? Are there any risks of permanent injury or death? Is the chances of saving them low or high to begin with? Those can heavily influence a person's course of action and isn't as clear cut as your making it. People tend to prioritise the things they care about or are bonded with over random strangers. I'd choose to save my mother over 50 strangers every time no question. Of course thats because any animal I have a bond with is already dead. But some people genuinely see their pets as family, so it's not surprising if they'd prioritise them instead. That's not what this person is saying. No he's saying he's under no obligation to sacrifice something he owns or cherishs for the sake of a person he doesn't know. Which I 100% agree with. If I lose nothing saving you sure I'll give it my best shot, but thats an ideal situation and not often what happens. Okay then how about this. Are you willing to financially bankrupt yourself if it meant saving a stranger? Moneys nothing compared to a sacred human life right?

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Yes if someone is in need they've always got a place with me. I've helped plenty of people. Lost jobs helping people that were struggling. You are throwing different variables into the situation that weren't already there. This person simply stated they chose their cats over a person clear cut that's it. You are making it more complicated.

by Vonruedenbettye 3 days ago

humans>animals

by joliejohnson 3 days ago

That take is so wrong on so many levels.

by SortGlittering 3 days ago

How do you know?

by Vonruedenbettye 3 days ago

i looked up some stuff and it seems it depends on the animal, i do still believe that any kind of unjustified harm is not good. just that human morals can't be aplicated to the same level to animals due to the lack of clear communication and proper understanding on what goes in their brain. morality is kinda weird to research but i fw it.

by Different_Spray 3 days ago

because almost no animal kills or hurts to play. They only ever kill or hurts others to eat or defend themselves.

by Anonymous 3 days ago

Not true

by Vonruedenbettye 2 days ago

Welcome to surplus killing Most animals only kill in defense and to eat because killing and hunting wastes energy and it's not worthwhile. Some animals kill extra prey for various reasons like being a picky eater, mating/bonding, and fun. But those are definitely predators outliers and definitely not in the way nor quantity that humans do.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

"for fun" I mean dolphins and orcas will kill animals just to play with the dead bodies.

by Vonruedenbettye 2 days ago

Do you own cats? They'll kill a bird quick just to kill it and play with it. No intent to eat it.

by Vonruedenbettye 2 days ago

Do you know how to read or click links? I will assume no, because I said TWICE "most animals" which means "A lot of animals, not all of them", I also wrote "Some animals" which means "Not all animals". In the link that I provided that you can Google, cats (big and small) are one of the few types of animals that engage in surplus killing, ie killing for fun or mating/bonding.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

"Fun" is pleasure so therefore animals do get pleasure from killing. Who can't read "pleasre"?

by Vonruedenbettye 2 days ago

Here it comes folks

by leanne71 2 days ago

John Wick would like a word with you

by Ok-Plan-8377 2 days ago