Marriage is literally unnecessary nowadays unless for financial and legal convenience, amirite?

Historically, marriage was purely about financial and legal convenience.

by Dannygoldner 11 hours ago

Historically, marriage was for religious reasons.

by Vita40 11 hours ago

Historically it was about families maintaining power and social status. It's why so many European royals are so inbred.

by Dannygoldner 10 hours ago

Yeah, I agree

by Anonymous 10 hours ago

Sounds like an argument that people should take their marriage vows more seriously and think more carefully about whether these structures are right for them - but not an argument against marriage per se.

by hertayost 10 hours ago

I feel like most people give up on the vow to support each other when times get tough. I can't tell you how many people I know that are divorced because their ex's or they themselves gave up the instant things got tough.

by Anonymous 10 hours ago

I remember a girl I know would say stuff like this for years because her long term boyfriend would also tell everyone he didn't believe in marriage. They got engaged and just had their wedding a couple months ago 😂

by Anonymous 9 hours ago

Marriage is a legal and social contract for the benefit of the children of the couple. If you look at outcomes, children from intact married households outperform all other living arrangements in pretty much every metric. Marriage isn't outdated.

by Suspicious-North 9 hours ago

You know the reason government is involved in marriage at all is for the financial and legal reasons, right?

by Top_Relief 8 hours ago

Someone is just deflecting their life… wish you the best OP

by Anonymous 8 hours ago

not me, I'm not even 20

by Anonymous 8 hours ago

Glad you've figured it all out...

by mannbriana 8 hours ago

Divorce lawyers with years of experience will tell you that marriage is stupid

by Wilsonstehr 8 hours ago

I'm saying it for free, you're telling me I can get paid for it?!

by Anonymous 8 hours ago

nope, but the dissatisfaction of those around me with their marriage is making this opinion valid.

by Anonymous 7 hours ago

I can't speak on the marriages of the people around you. But if you're basing your opinions on them- do you think they are a good sample size of most couples, and represent a variety of types of people, to the point it makes your opinion valid by just looking at them?

by Anonymous 7 hours ago

If people your age are married, they should be dissatisfied. You're not mature enough to get it, and if they aren't either but did it anyway because that's what society expected, they probably won't succeed. Marriage is great, but it's not for you, yet.

by Anonymous 7 hours ago

You sound genuinely miserable as a person lmao

by Renee30 7 hours ago

Why tho? I have been with my partner for over 20 years with kids and all. No marriage. Still going strong. I think people who can't imagine living without marriage are the same kind of people who can't imagine living without god. The fact that you can't imagine it doesn't make you morally superior it only makes you mentally limited.

by Physical-Tomorrow347 6 hours ago

I've been married nearly thirty. Still going strong. And made an actual commitment and put it into a legal construct of what my commitment was. I'm super happy for you that your boyfriend or girlfriend has stuck around for that long. Genuinely. But trying to say not making the actual commitment is the same as making the commitment is false. It isn't. You hypothetically won the bet. I really did. We are not the same.

by Anonymous 6 hours ago

Yapping a whole bunch of nonsense 😂

by Wilsonstehr 6 hours ago

Don't project your messy divorce or failed relationships onto other people against their willful consent.

by Renee30 6 hours ago

Thinking that marriage for love is BS is a miserable/sad-ass thing to believe, I stand by my statement no matter how controversial it is or no matter how many people disagree.

by Renee30 6 hours ago

If you marry for love you'll never be miserable. If you don't marry for love, the second you have any misfortune you get a blind eye turned. I know my wife will always be there for me no matter what life throws at me* because it's what happens with me that determines if she stays (if it wasn't for love). Again, OP just can't find love.

by Anonymous 5 hours ago

If you're rational then surely you understand this isn't unpopular and more just your rationalized opinion. Your title answers even have a legit rebuttal. Lol

by Anonymous 5 hours ago

I don't think this opinion is as unpopular as it used to be. More and more people are foregoing marriage and no fault divorces are a thing… at least for now in this country. With that said I think a lot of people still get married for symbolic reasons as opposed to pragmatic ones.

by Anonymous 5 hours ago

pfff yup ik ik

by Anonymous 5 hours ago

Marriage for religious followers is not to commit sins by having sex outside of marriage. It is to show society they live in "hey, this is my sexual partner" to not be called a whore, and "these are my kids from my husband" so they are not bastards. All for having a safe structure in society. Those who are not religious, don't understand why they need to get married in today's world. Since they can walk, bring their partners to their families and be accepted without shaming them for not getting married

by legrosarvid 4 hours ago

That's the whole point of marriage : that you enter a binding agreement that makes it difficult to leave at the first change of heart. Feelings change, life circumstances can get you down bad, you can fall out of love and in love again over the spans of years with your partner. Human life and feelings are messy so sometimes you need to create constraints on yourself so that you won't jump ships at the first pressure When you are building a family with children and finance involved, the whole point is that you can't simply walk away the day you wake up feeling like you don't love your partner anymore. You are supposed to honor the vows and fight hard and long or the relationships to work out. Marriage was always about creating stability within family and communities for the purpose of having children and creating wealth. The idea of a marriage based on love is very recent, idealist at best, deluded at worst.

by Relative_Screen 4 hours ago

Getting married so that you can trap your partner is manipulative. Read what you just wrote. You're basically saying marriage is meant to be a trap

by Wilsonstehr 4 hours ago

I'm all good with people wanting to celebrate a commitment. If they want to call this "getting married," if they want to celebrate it with a big party and invite their whole family, if they want to wear a ring, etc., I'm all for it! Does the state need to be involved? Not at all. The state should protect children, not adult relationships.

by Anonymous 4 hours ago

the tradwives have entered the chat

by Anonymous 3 hours ago

We're on the same page! The only reason the government involve themselves with this is to hinder our right to marry llamas.

by Velma81 3 hours ago

Marriage is a partnership and a lot of compromise, and cant work without those two things.

by Quiet_Rub 3 hours ago

It's just a pagan ritual that we still seem to be practicing for some reason. Relationships should be based on trust and love and that's all, not some signed paper. Once that's gone and you are married it's just a huge pain in the ass for everyone.

by Fair_Echo8489 3 hours ago

But that's the point of marriage isn't it : a binding agreement that isn't dependent on feelings of love that come and go naturally. When you start building a family with children involved, the whole point is that you can't leave at the first change of heart. Marriage was always about creating a stable structure for the development of family life (finances, children, larger communities). Love can and is a part of it, but it wasn't the goal

by Relative_Screen 3 hours ago

Yes, it's an existential nightmare, and a lot of people just end up sacrificing their lives.

by Fair_Echo8489 3 hours ago

Well I guess it depends what you value in life and who you chose as a partner I guess. Marriage has held families and communities together for centuries. If it truly had no point and was always a nightmare, I'm not sure the institution would have lasted that long tbh. I think children make everything different; if you have no children its easier to quit a relationship

by Relative_Screen 2 hours ago

There's no greater joy than being with someone who you can truly trust and love. Vice versa to have to be married to someone you don't even like being around is quite the trade off.

by Fair_Echo8489 2 hours ago

Married people will often tell you that even if you love a person, sometimes you won't like them... Trust is necessary though I agree you can't build anything without trust. If truly it is not working out you should separate, but first you need to actually try. I've met a lot of married people who had difficult yearS, but eventually they resolved their issues and came out stronger and more in love than ever. But it didn't solve itself in 1 month or even 1 year

by Relative_Screen 1 hour ago

I understand the benefits to staying married to someone you don't like at times. However my overall point is that you sacrifice the ability to walk around with your heart open and you may miss out on your perfect person because of the bonds of marriage. On balance marriage sounds way way off being worth it in most situations, but that is just my opinion.

by Fair_Echo8489 1 hour ago

I never called it meaningless. There is at least some meaning even in the worst marriages, usually anyway.

by Fair_Echo8489 1 hour ago

Unfortunately too many people in this world are not good enough to act responsibly when children are involved so the signed paper is quite important these days if there are kids.

by al29 1 hour ago

Well the debate is still ongoing whether unhappy marriages are better for the kids than separated parents and the factors at play there.

by Fair_Echo8489 1 hour ago

Marriage in the Anglosphere is absolutely not pagan; it's based on Christian ceremonies, norms, and ideals.

by Top_Relief 1 hour ago

And yk what, most developed countries have the divorce rate of 40-50

by Anonymous 54 minutes ago

You know that number is inflated by people who have multiple divorces right?

by Anonymous 45 minutes ago

Totally disagree, commitment is a great thing for many. Works well for me, but to each their own!

by al29 19 minutes ago