+50 If the art is still good, nepotism has no value in discussing an artist, amirite?

by javoneffertz 1 day ago

I think with nepo babies, the only thing that makes people not like them is them not admitting that they got a lot more opportunities to be successful than others because of their connections. Like cool you make good art but don't act like you got there by yourself without help.

by New-Internal2765 1 day ago

Exactly this. There are a lot of talented nepo babies out there. There are also talented people in general out there who are just as talented if not more talented than these nepo babies who will never get the opportunities that nepo babies get. It's hard to watch someone who is super talented struggle for years and never succeed while nepo babies get opportunities handed to them because of who their parents are.

by Cool-Adeptness 1 day ago

Jack quaidphenomenal actor always talks about how he is a nepo baby and he got lucky that way. Love the guy for it actually understands hiw he got his position

by DentistIntelligent65 1 day ago

What do you mean

by Anonymous 1 day ago

What was he doing before Degrassi? Were his parents famous or something?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

It's not hard to understand...

by Dangerous_Hope 1 day ago

It's a little vague

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I cannot remember the name but there was an expressionist who literally was copying toddler finger paintings! The devaluing of craft in art has been a problem for a long time.

by Used-Preference8625 1 day ago

Yeah, Fair point. Talent is talent regardless

by mosciskihelen 1 day ago

That's the thing - if a nepo hire turns out good, people don't generally mind.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

When it comes to something like music, nepotism will only get your foot in the door. If you are not good then you will not be successful and its thanks to neoptism that we have so much good music too. Without Dr.Dre, a lot of west coast 90s rappers would have not made it.

by No_Birthday1936 1 day ago

I know nothing about EDM, but usually when I hear criticism towards nepo babies it's because of their attitude more than their work. Willow Smith is a perfect example of a nepo baby I don't think I've heard a single criticism because she acknowledges her good fortune when it comes into question. If they don't mention it that's cool too, just don't go around saying you've built yourself from the ground up or anything.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I must study Politicks and War that my sons may have liberty to study Painting and Poetry Mathematicks and Philosophy. My sons ought to study Mathematicks and Philosophy, Geography, natural History, Naval Architecture, navigation, Commerce and Agriculture, in order to give their Children a right to study Painting, Poetry, Musick, Architecture, Statuary, Tapestry and Porcelaine.

by Lumpy-Position 1 day ago

Nepotism isn't about talent or quality of work. It is about entitled people's delusional belief in opportunity of outcome.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

It must mean something to a lot of people, hence why Nepo artists sometimes hide their last name and perform under a stage name.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I think DJ is a fine actress. She's been very unfortunate to be attached to some terrible projects, but when the writing and directing are good, she tends to deliver. She was very good in Materialists, The Lost Daughter, and Peanut Butter Falcon. She's not good enough to carry bad screenwriting, but she's not bad either.

by Dangerous_Hope 1 day ago

Maybe I should check out one of those 3 movies as I haven't seen any of them. I just know that even in the bad projects, I've found performances of people I've enjoyed, but not hers, she has always been very wooden and emotionless.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

People have said the same about Kristen Stewart and Brie Larson who are also very good actors. It always sounds to me like an older man telling a younger woman "you'd be a lot prettier if you smiled," honestly.

by Dangerous_Hope 1 day ago

I just have an opinion about one person. Yet you somehow felt the need to turn that into an accusation of sexism, so yea, thanks for that.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

People don't have a problem with nepo babies purely for the sake of being nepo babies. People have a problem with nepo babies pretending that they're not. It's all about recognizing opportunity. If someone is famous because of their parents and they acknowledge that they had the opportunity to become famous because of their parents, then no big deal. Like you said, as long as their work is good, there's no issue. But, if someone got famous because of their parents and then acts like their parents had nothing to do with their fame, then that's a problem.

by TankLazy3904 1 day ago

I'm ok with this take. I think it's pretty rare for us to see an artist who isn't connected in some way and many of them are very talented. Nepotism is the norm, not the exception. I'm not advocating for it but I do acknowledge it.

by PsychologicalFig8615 1 day ago

The problem isn't that the art isn't good the problem is it's more than likely on par with other similar unknown artists who will never have the same opportunities becuse they lack the connections and networking the nepo babies have

by Anonymous 1 day ago

The problem with nepotism isn't that out only produces bad results. It's that it can result in a decent or okay person getting an opportunity that could have gone to someone truly remarkable. If I'm running a lable and can sign on one person. And I have some nobody that's exceptional but he's up against a friend or a relative that's good enough to make the target and I pass over that exceptional talent. That's where the problem is. In industries where it's a regular practice you also see people that could have been great just not try at all. You see this in Hollywood and politics all the time. The odds of getting anywhere without connections is miniscule. So you're better off working towards something else

by Anonymous 1 day ago

The gripe is that they were given more opportunities than people of equal or more talent, so it's just kinda lame

by Anonymous 1 day ago

That doesn't impact their quality of art though. If someone makes good art why does it matter? Do you refrain from eating a meal because there's better food in the world? Even if you enjoy that meal? Why wouldn't you apply the same logic to art?

by javoneffertz 1 day ago

I'm not saying I avoid nepo art, but generally that's where the negativity comes from. It's especially lame when the artist doesn't acknowledge that they had a huge advantage from birth

by Anonymous 1 day ago

A good artist with a good background is almost guaranteed some level of success, even if they are just ok. A good artist without that background ultimately has to rely on luck, even if they are amazing.

by Margie97 1 day ago

I think dismissing someone automatically because of nepotism is bad, but that's also not something I see happening. To your point though, so much of what we are is heavily genetically influenced, so like, nepotism kinda makes sense? At least if the parents were/are actually good artists originally

by Anonymous 1 day ago

This really shouldn't be unpopular. It's unfortunate that people have latched onto this so badly.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Nepo babies are rarely producing good art…

by Aromatic_Worth 1 day ago

leonardo davinci, paul cezanne, lady gaga, jim carey, jack black, mendelssohn

by Budget-Sir2547 1 day ago

Bro said Sean Lennon… and I adore the Beatles But Sean Lennon? Don't be silly

by Aromatic_Worth 1 day ago

If you wanted to pick a talented nepo baby Julian was right there…

by Aromatic_Worth 1 day ago

That doesn't mean that they never do so. Just look at Willow Smith

by ThesePlatypus7371 1 day ago

Is this satire

by Aromatic_Worth 1 day ago

If you can't appreciate ardipithecus as a phenomenal body of work then I think your being disingenuous.

by javoneffertz 1 day ago