+38 Pedro Pascal in Fantastic 4 is a weird case of being good but miscasted at the same time, amirite?

by Mundane_Hand 1 day ago

Reed is all brain. A very deep, strategic thinker. And I think people generally aren't used to seeing Pedro in a role like this which is why it's jarring. But I think he did a fine job.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Yeah, I don't really have any complaints about his job in F4. He understood the assignment and gave a good "I'm present, but I'm also spinning 150 invisible plates in my head......and each of those plates is a potentially groundbreaking discovery...also one of those plates is a baby" MCU in general gets a lot of slack from me because I keep my expectations just a few notches above Comic Book Rules and Rule of Cool. If you want Pedro at his best, I felt like Narcos was where it's at.

by ExcellentBid 1 day ago

Pedro's generally known as like a pretty chill guy when he's onscreen, and I really liked seeing him lost in his mind trying to think of every single potential outcome.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I feel he was just a little too charismatic. Being super genius plate spinner "should" make him a little bit less relatable. But within the 4 he did a good job.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I mean, he's Mister Fantastic :P He's the whole package: Smartest man alive, Natural leader, Stretchable penis, George Clooney hair.

by ExcellentBid 1 day ago

Stretchable penis you say? Go on…

by Anonymous 1 day ago

For me the opening scene looking for his supplement felt like porn-acting. The rest was fine

by Other-Cut7484 1 day ago

I think if people have difficulty believing Pascal is the character that speaks to poor acting

by Exotic-Ordinary 1 day ago

I sure didn't think it was bad acting. I felt like it was different for him.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

No it's also just due to exposure. Also having a very memberable name doesn't help with this.

by Savings-Upstairs 1 day ago

No, that speaks to opinions

by StatementSafe8415 1 day ago

The problem with the "customer is always right" thinking is that the customers disagree. I think he did a great job. And there are other reasons why some people cannot buy him as the character.

by ElderberryTop 1 day ago

My hot take about this movie is why is the guy they cast as Johhny not hot when that's the whole character?

by WhichAd8732 1 day ago

Well played.

by Flat_Hornet_3733 1 day ago

If Joseph Quinn is being cast as the hot guy then there's no reason half of us shouldn't go talk to that girl at the bar.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Idk Dan my mom says I'm handsome. All I said was this dude is average looking. You gonna get mad if I say someone is more attractive than Steve Buscemi even though he's a celeb?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

This guy isnt a celebrity for his looks. I mean, before this his two biggest roles were being was cast in Stranger Things as the ultimate loner geek and in Gladiator 2 as an emperor who was described as "damaged goods from birth" and was inspired by Beavis and Butthead (seriously). This guy isn't exactly a sexpot. He's just an ordinary dude.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

So they went for Ellen?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

This is my biggest beef too but the problem is some people think Joseph Quinn IS hot. They really cast a dude with a character actor's face as Johnny Storm and are gonna gaslight the rest of us into believing he is hot.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Like I can see him so what are we saying?

by WhichAd8732 1 day ago

Personal preference is crazy I know. Also "being hot" isn't Johnny's whole character. It's what they reduced him to in the previous movies. Your complaint doesn't make sense

by StatementSafe8415 1 day ago

Johnny is attractive and a hot head. That's the brand. Outside of personal preference choosing someone known for their looks makes sense

by WhichAd8732 1 day ago

That's the brand if you've watched two terrible movies and never looked further into the character whatsoever. That being the extent of your knowledge of the character doesn't make it the universal truth. And again, for some people, he is known for his looks. Your mileage may vary

by StatementSafe8415 1 day ago

Umm he's known for not having an Iphone face but that's also not like a great superhero movie fit

by WhichAd8732 1 day ago

Johnny is absolutely supposed to be hot in universe

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Do you read what you're responding to before you respond? The character has changed over time like most of these characters. Being spectacularly attractive was not a feature of Johnny Storm from his inception. Joseph Quinn is attractive enough and he's a great Johnny Storm.

by ElderberryTop 1 day ago

Ok I think we just disagree on attractive enough

by WhichAd8732 1 day ago

I'd ask you the same question. I think he's plenty attractive, but it's insane to claim that Johnny's looks aren't apart of his character.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Guys if Joseph Quinn isn't considered hot I think it's safe to say we're all cooked 🫠

by Anonymous 1 day ago

He looks very average so no youre not

by WhichAd8732 1 day ago

I can't speak to hotness, but he does look like a young robert downey jr. And that guy made them a ton of money.

by Shanahanotis 1 day ago

I cannot see what you do

by WhichAd8732 1 day ago

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by Shanahanotis 1 day ago

He really doesn't tho, Quinn has shark eyes that are totally different and distracting

by Embarrassed-Set-6968 1 day ago

This makes it crazier lol

by WhichAd8732 1 day ago

That's exactly what my daughter and I were saying when we were driving home from the movie. Even some of his mannerisms were similar. It was actually kind of distracting.

by Intrepid_Seaweed 1 day ago

Wait til we find out Johnny is actually an RDJ Dr Doom clone, who is a clone of Tony Stark

by Anonymous 1 day ago

A- Joseph Quinn ain't a bad looking dude B- I'm assuming you have seen the movie and so you'd know but they actually you know…. Fleshed him out a bit? Made him more than one note? Which I don't think is a bad thing at all lol

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Yeah I dont think fleshing him out is the problem lol. Him looking mid is lol

by WhichAd8732 23 hours ago

Worry about yourself.

by Stunning_Kangaroo 23 hours ago

Thank god I'm not the only one. Joseph gave a good performance but man is he just not the level of hot that Johnny needs to be.

by Anonymous 23 hours ago

Yeah, why does he look like a doofus?

by Anonymous 23 hours ago

Dude's face is perfectly symmetrical and he has good hair. If he is considered ugly, then most regular dudes are mole-men. Johnny is also drawn like kind of an airhead doofus by some artists.. i feel like he is more Travis Barker, MGK, or some kind of X-Games athlete type attractive. A charming and confident rebel, not a traditional pretty boy like Bruce Wayne or Steve Rogers.

by Anonymous 23 hours ago

He's not ugly but he's also not hot especially by Hollywood standards he just looks like any random dude. I mean Chris Evens used to play the same role it's not really close

by Own_Buffalo 23 hours ago

Yeah, but only one of these people actually played a good Johnny, and it wasn't Evans

by StatementSafe8415 23 hours ago

I didn't say he was ugly, I said he looked like a doofus

by Anonymous 22 hours ago

You're thinking of the Chris Evans version, specifically. The character isn't all about being hot (in the attractive sense)

by Wild-Judge 22 hours ago

Johnny is hot and a hothead. That's my recollection.

by WhichAd8732 22 hours ago

He single handedly deciphered and translated an alien language, incorporated a successful trap, and turned her to their side which is the only reason Johnny didn't die. No shot you watched the movie

by StatementSafe8415 22 hours ago

You think his plan to try to win her over was by making her hear the voices of all the people she killed and yelling at her for murdering them? That's the argument you're going with? Im guessing him trying to kill her earlier in the movie was so that he could join her in the afterlife? Because apparently his only motivation was thinking she's hot, right? Your argument only makes sense if you don't think about it in the slightest.

by StatementSafe8415 21 hours ago

Why is everyone saying casted instead of cast lately?? That's gibberish.

by Anonymous 21 hours ago

Because the world is slowly becoming more illiterate.

by Anonymous 20 hours ago

That's how I felt about him as Joel in last of us. His performance was fine but it was a missed casting imo

by Embarrassed-Fly 20 hours ago

Nah he kilt that w a lead pipe

by Anonymous 20 hours ago

I love Pedro but im also a bit Pedroed out. I had just seen Eddington a week before FF4 and it kinda ruined it for me. (I understand they are actors, but a week was not enough time to forget one role and believe the next)

by Anonymous 19 hours ago

The real unpopular opinion is that Pedro is one of the most overrated actors of all time. This is just my opinion. Yes, I do think he was really great in Game of Thrones but it was a very limited roll. His other main character, the mandalorian requires no facial work at all lol. Then of course he got cast into the video game show for HBO which had built in hard core fans to start with. I don't think he's a bad actor at all. I do think he's incredibly praised though and imo it's not warranted. That's probably the true unpopular opinion. Personally I think his popularity is purely because he's been cast in crazy popular roles and he's a an all around amazing person in real life. That doesn't mean he's one of the greatest actors ever though.

by Able_Programmer1324 19 hours ago

He was awesome and got his big break in Narcos

by Anonymous 19 hours ago

He almost single-handedly rescued Wonder Woman 1984 from crappiness. He carried that whole movie on his freaking shoulders, and if it hadn't been for some atrocious things in the film it might've even worked.

by Anonymous 19 hours ago

Hey now - Chris Pine was great.

by Zena30 19 hours ago

I don't think he is over rated, just over utilized , his part in game of thrones was pretty dammed good

by Anonymous 18 hours ago

Overutilized? The dude has been acting since the mid 1990s. He's more than paid his dues - he deserves a stint in the spotlight.

by Anonymous 18 hours ago

I didn't say he doesn't deserve it, it just isn't great to me to see him do a lot of work I think is beneath his quality By that metric Nathan fillion is way past his due

by Anonymous 18 hours ago

I concur. Although Fillion has headlined multiple TV series - and even got to show his face in them! Lol. If Pascal wants to take whatever he can get hold of to bank some cash before his Hollywood moment is over, good for him.

by Anonymous 18 hours ago

I am not mad at him for getting what he can, just voicing that I would like him t remain relevant, and not be over saturated

by Anonymous 17 hours ago

I think that fantastic 4 is beneath him personally, he is like Javier bardem, and works best in serious dramatic roles

by Anonymous 17 hours ago

I mean I am sure he did wonderful, I just feel that we are going to be over saturated with Pedro soon, and I feel what he offers could suffer as a result

by Anonymous 17 hours ago

I get it, but all of his reoccurring roles outside of Mr. fantastic and Mando are over. Not like he's coming back as Joel full time or playing Oberyn ever again. Unless Gunn re-cast him in a DC property he's probably going to do one off movies and be Mr. fantastic for the foreseeable future. He's a hardworking person but I think Reed is all that's left. He's not going to be Mando forever either. Have to imagine that'll be close to done after the movie drops next year.

by Anonymous 17 hours ago

ding, ding, ding

by Desperate-Collar4190 17 hours ago

She asked me"do you want to see the monster that killed my mom?" And I said yes, and she took me to you, and I didn't see a monster, I just saw a baby

by Anonymous 16 hours ago

He's not a bad actor or a good actor, but he's a serviceable actor.. which sometimes is all you really can hope for

by Anonymous 16 hours ago

"His other main character" * does not mention Narcos * Go back to the end of the line, please.

by Anonymous 15 hours ago

I do think he gets cast in too many roles, but he was incredible in TLOU - and that's coming with someone who has no familiarity with the game

by Anonymous 15 hours ago

Agreed, sick of seeing him everywhere lol

by ProfessionalForm4095 15 hours ago

The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent was a fun ride. Other than that, you are right.

by Anonymous 14 hours ago

I think he did great and feel it was the best Marvel movie since Guardians of the Galaxy 1. It was that good.

by Anonymous 14 hours ago

Not a ragnarok fan?

by Exciting-Crab886 14 hours ago

It was a great return to the roots of marvel. They're comics, and they really leant into the campy, goofy comic vibe.

by Anonymous 14 hours ago

I mean hes not that far off from Reed Richards. Its not like they cast Blade as a white dude or something. I completely believed Pedro as Reed. I felt he embodied the character perfectly.

by Anonymous 13 hours ago

Yeah I like Pedro but I don't like this casting. Like you really couldn't have just shaved the mustache dude? 😂 I didn't like the Johnny casting either because he's supposed to be a really hot dude. I know Joseph Quinn did a phenomenal job, but it's still just an odd feeling whenever half of the F4 looks vastly different than you're used to, makes it hard for you to associate it as being the same group or IP tbh

by PresentPepper 13 hours ago

To me, the biggest issue is immersion. He is a good actor but it starts to feel uncanny if you are the same face I'm seeing everywhere I look.

by Anna44 13 hours ago

Imo Reed Richard's appearance isn't iconic at all so i don't understand what the big deal is. The story is memorable, the retro-futurism and the superpowers are iconic, but Reed Richard's appearance? Meh. Just like the reimagining of Namor. Heck, that's even a case where his backstory as well as his appearance aren't iconic at all so reimagining him and his atlantis as a remnant from a pre-colonial native civilization wasn't a big deal, and they kept the thing that was important and unique about him: the little foot wings. Actor's skill and charisma is so much more important in this case than their appearance.

by Anonymous 13 hours ago

I think he did a good job I just don't think he was the best choice for the role. It just felt off to me

by Anonymous 13 hours ago

Just FYI, the past tense of "cast" (or "miscast") is "cast." Not "casted." Sorry, this is a pet peeve of mine.

by Ok-Afternoon-8444 13 hours ago

He did great. Script had issues

by Anonymous 12 hours ago

Why because he's gay?

by Kshlerinbreanne 12 hours ago

He was basically perfect Reed, idk what problems people have with him

by iwitting 12 hours ago

I feel the same way about Johnny. That guy just doesn't look or feel like Johnny Storm to me, even though he's a fine actor.

by Kautzermara 12 hours ago

I agree with you here, I enjoyed his performance but I felt like he wasn't given much to work with from the script. The opening scene shows him finding out about the pregnancy, which put him into anxious state that is only amplified with the fast pace of the film and the events with Galactus. Due to this we only see Reed acting out of stress/anxiety for every moment that he's onscreen. I'm still happy with Pedro's performance, and the movie as a whole, I just hope we get to see the lighter side of Reed in later films.

by Anonymous 11 hours ago

It was a very restrained performance and I dug it. We have too many charismatic brainiacs

by Anonymous 11 hours ago

I don't know if this is an unpopular opinion tbh. Personally I liked the look. To be fair I think this is my first official titles with him in it. He felt like Reed Richards to me. What was cool was that unlike the first F4, this reed was way more... Reserved intelligent. Like he wasn't super eccentric like the first, but he was a smart man trying to solve the worlds problems AND have a family. I think Pedro did that perfectly, and his chemistry with Vanessa Kirby was great.

by RestaurantCheap4761 11 hours ago

I don't think you described miscast. I get this is a miscast for you but, in reality, it's not. You even said it yourself

by Anonymous 10 hours ago

As someone who has never read the comics but disliked every previous FF film he and Vanessa were by far the actors that made the movie for me.

by Jumpy_Load_6241 10 hours ago

OP, you are mostly right. And it's not just this movie. Pedro has been in some of the more interesting movies of the year (Eddington and Materialists) and imo he has failed to elevate those movies, even though I would argue those movies had mediocre scripts. I'm not sure if he is just mailing it in or if he's just not cut out to be a lead or a bonafide movie star.

by Anonymous 10 hours ago

I loved Eddington and I find Pascal very likable so his character was a slimy delight, but he is not the caliber of actor that Joaquin Phoenix is and this movie made it obvious

by Kquigley 10 hours ago

The beauty of the current mcu is that they can recast whenever they want if they just have them come from another dimension.

by Shanahanotis 9 hours ago

I think hardcore fans wanted that but they needed a star to get butts in seats. "Why would I go see another Fantastic Four movie? The last one was bad and I'm tired of superhero movies anyway." "Pedro Pascal is in it." "Oh I love him! I guess I'll check it out." I don't know many actors today who are as popular and charismatic as him.

by Anonymous 9 hours ago

On the other hand - I haven't seen either Mandalorian or TLOU, so - I'm not tired of him.

by Zena30 9 hours ago

Reed was fine, the thing should have had his voice. Sue was fine. Johnny was a neutered version of himself.

by meghan34 9 hours ago

Miscast. There is no such word as "casted". I cast the lure. The play was cast well. Cast. Every form you use it in it's always "cast". Or "miscast".

by Suspicious_Raise 8 hours ago

Pedro Pascal has a very natural feminine walk (gait). Once you see it in Mandalorian, you can't unsee it.

by Anonymous 8 hours ago

This might be the most insecure thing I've seen today. Congratulations

by StatementSafe8415 8 hours ago

Seems the truth hurts you. So sorry. LOL

by Anonymous 8 hours ago

(gait) This was funny enough to have actually been in Eddington

by Kquigley 8 hours ago