Listening to music made by shady or abusive people is not inherently worse than watching movies financed by predators or eating meat from slaughtered animals. amirite?

The meat part is an odd thing to add at the end.

by SelectionQuiet9782 1 day ago

I don't think so. The meat industry has its share of people who mistreat animals on their way to slaughter. Not all of them are cruel, just like not all members of a boycotted band are abusive. That's part of my point about finding an arbitrary place to draw the line about what to boycott.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

You compared shady musical artists to shady movie producers, which makes sense. But then you said slaughtered animal meat also gets lumped in there - you didn't specify the meat processing industry as a whole.

by SelectionQuiet9782 1 day ago

Incorrect❤️

by Anonymous 1 day ago

You should look up the Lost Prophets

by general83 1 day ago

Oh I'm half aware of it and from where I was at the time it was just another drop in the sea. Yep MySpace era indie rockers and whatnot banged a lot of scene girls and I don't really care that much

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I don't think you looked it up. He has sex with a 2 year old

by general83 1 day ago

I don't inherently disagree but it does feel very all or nothing. Also, with food anything people often have less of a choice. Like, would you live in a house built and paid for by Bill Cosby? The more I need a roof over my head, the less I'd be concerned by that.

by NecessaryWeak822 1 day ago

That's part of what I'm getting at. Is it the fact that music is entertainment? If that's the logic, then Weinstein's movies should be boycotted too, but they aren't. I'm trying to understand the distinctions and the only thing that is happening is that people aren't seeing the parallels that I said they aren't seeing. Nobody has said anything constructive yet except you.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Maybe so — then explain it. Help me understand. What specifically is wrong in my reasoning, and how do you define the difference between the cases I mentioned?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

The music and entertainment industry are FAR different from the meat industry. You can always find different groups and watch different movies. Boycott anything to do with them, you can support victims etc. In the meat industry I feel like a lot of people don't understand that these animals ARE BRED to be eaten. Ik the conditions are awful and some are abused but just because for example, a cow is raised in open pastures, has plenty of nutrition and gets lots of pets and hugs. That doesn't that chage the fact that one day it's going to be eaten. It's a strange ass comparison.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Can you expand on why the comparison doesn't work?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Are you referring to just turning Vegan or something the same way people boycott music groups and producers? I don't think it's a good comparison because humans like, need meat to balance our diets, while we don't need celebrities to balance our lives. They're just people.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I agree, we should absolutely hold animal abusers in the meat industry accountable but we low-key rely on the meat industry to live. Unless we all go back to hunting or something but even then it's obviously awful for the animals. Eh, I feel like you're getting at a specific rap figure here. No idea who you're talking about as i'm not into that genre but I absolutely think they should be held accountable as should anyone.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Listening to music made by shady or abusive people is not inherently worse than watching movies financed by predators ok. or eating meat from slaughtered animals that's not even related. Of course I think that people should be held responsible for their actions ok. but yeah this is the part where we realise it's going nowhere, thank you, either a vegan or vegan hater.

by FluidCamera8668 1 day ago

Send them to jail, but enjoy their music. How is that going nowhere? And I don't care about what people eat.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Send them to jail, but enjoy their music and make weird pointless comparision to justify your own logic. gotcha.

by FluidCamera8668 1 day ago

It's not a pointless comparison. You just can't see the parallel. That's on you.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

So for you it has to do with the quantity of people in the enterprise, and that having a lot of people involved sort of "dilutes" the abuser's actions across the whole. So how many people does it take to dilute the actions of the abuser to the point that the enterprise should be considered safe? 10? 100? 1000? And given how many people adore rappers who sell drugs and shoot at people, I don't think the statement about people being uncomfortable holds true across genres. It holds true for metal and rock. But not for rap/drill/trap. I'm trying to understand why that is as well.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I appreciate you staying constructive and explaining the distinctions as you understand them. The thing is, people still listen to rappers who sell drugs and kill people, so the logic seems not to translate across genres of entertainment. That's something I'm trying to understand here too.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Agree completely.

by Anonymous 1 day ago