People on steroids should not be PTs or 'nutrition/gym influencers', amirite?

Same with chicks with BBLs trying to teach women how to grow a dump truck

by Anonymous 2 days ago

It works.... im one of those women who grew a dump truck, no surgery/enhancements. Just six months of split squats, leg kicks, and dead lifts... Like it actually works dude...

by Lucy92 2 days ago

Of course it works. That's what body building is. But charging people for advice and expertise when you faked your way to the body you have, is fraudulent.

by ChartRude 2 days ago

It's fraud to take steroids and then claim the results are due to something else. It should be prosecuted as such

by Watsicanicholau 2 days ago

Lots of fake nattys out there on social media that sell programs and products.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Yes More government interference in everyday affairs.

by IllustriousWar 2 days ago

So fraud should be decriminalised in other walks of life too?

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Here come the straw men

by IllustriousWar 2 days ago

it's not everyday affairs it's business? of course government should be involved to assure customers protection

by alvertacollier 2 days ago

No it shouldn't Why do we have education if people can't make informed decisions. I am tired of my tax dollars going to babysit people.

by IllustriousWar 1 day ago

if that's how you choose to see it. i see it as my taxes going to oversee businesses to make sure consumers have access to honest information so they can make educated choices. good honest competition between businesses only benefits customers.

by alvertacollier 1 day ago

Ok Again, that may be right it may be wrong. But don't pretend that coddling consumers carries with it some sort of moral imperative. Arguably, these things provide a moral hazard in some cases.

by IllustriousWar 1 day ago

Lol excellent point.

by benjaminroob 1 day ago

Is taking steroids an everyday affair ?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Its a private affair unless someone is advocating for it (on their platform).

by IllustriousWar 1 day ago

People rarely admit to taking steroids because steroids are usually attained illegally

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Not every lie is a fraud. Fraud is outright saying "look how jacked I got eating this XYZ supplement without taking steroids, buy it from me and you can achieve the same". Anything less than that is just a lie and is not and should not be punishable under any reasonable legal system.

by SeniorExcitement 1 day ago

No you're wrong, its he unique way I do biceps curls and because I only eat meat. /s

by Cultural_Might_5852 1 day ago

This isn't an unpopular opinion, most people who would agree with this sentiment

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Not being transparent is a problem. But a lot of the time, guys who take steroids are very knowledgeable on training/diet etc. Taking steroids doesn't magically make you look great, it still takes hard work and dedication. But I do completely agree that they shouldn't lie about taking stuff if they are.

by Fine-Beginning9356 1 day ago

Not just them. 20 and 30 somethings in my city. Its crazy how steroids went from super taboo to being casually talked about by younger generations. And quite the amount of guys walking around definitely on something. Granted some people are naturally big but not this many musclebound freaks.

by Joandickens 1 day ago

It's crazy that highschoolers are now mostly in the gym, I read that Gen Z is the generation with the most gym active people and I believe that. Especially when you have teens and young adults on steroids which they do admit and some even go as far as being on TRT and roids... it's crazy.....

by Dry_Championship 1 day ago

Agreed and you shouldn't try to compete in tested competitions whether it's bodybuilding or powerlifting. I dont care if you can game the system and cycle off long enough to fool the tests, know you gave up your integrity and won nothing. Oh and trt counts as a ped because it literally is.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

How a PT looks has nothing to do with your knowledge or ability to be a good trainer.

by AnybodyAmazing6122 1 day ago

Idk if that were true why do all NFL coaches also play QB? /s

by Anonymous 1 day ago

100%

by benjaminroob 1 day ago

Taking steroids doesn't grant you a nice body like a genie 😂 you still have to know what you're doing.

by bellgrady 1 day ago

Ofc taking steroids doesn't magically give you a great body, but if you say "this is how I achieved this physique" and conveniently leave out the fact that you used steroids, you're lying by omission

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Steroid users have been shown to gain considerably more muscle without exercise than non steroid users with exercise. Steroid users don't need to know what they're doing in order to gain muscle.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Got that study? I'm genuinely asking because I'd be curious to read it.

by bellgrady 1 day ago

Never said steroids was the magic pill. I said if they're not transparent about it, they are misleading people. Someone can follow a diet and gym routine to the best of their natural ability, do everything right. They will never attain that big body, steroid look they originally wanted from that PT or "influencer"

by Dry_Championship 1 day ago

What a boring cop out. You can make more progress in a year on enough gear doing basically anything at the gym than a natty can do in a decade training optimally.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

It's not a cop out. Just the honest truth. Frankly, there are so many myths about fitness etc tied into various ways we think about what a healthy body looks like that it's kinda 🤷🏾‍♂️ However, and maybe this is experience bias (fully willing to admit that) I don't think the casual user is doing steroids like that. I've only ever seen people who do steroids being the kind who are already dedicated gym users. So while the lie of a body image is there ofc they do tend to have a bit more knowledge about fitness than most

by bellgrady 1 day ago

You're vastly overstating the effects steroids have without a proper diet and training.

by kassulketiffany 1 day ago

This was written by someone who knows nothing about steroids or actual dieting/fitness in general.

by BadProfessional 1 day ago

He trains hard..or he did when he looked "insane" he looks like a soft turd currently.

by kassulketiffany 1 day ago

"these days" You don't end up looking like that without working hard, steroids or no.

by Hassiealtenwert 1 day ago

If someone is giving good advice then they are giving good advice, doesn't matter if they are some grand wizard or if they are fred from across the street. They still know what works.

by Worried_Example_3277 1 day ago

It's not about "giving good advice". A fat person can still give good advice about nutrition and gym. It's about them preaching the average person can get the same results they have which is totally unattainable.

by Dry_Championship 1 day ago

depends on how much they trained naturally prior to hopping on gear and remember how differently it can be to train naturally. Something that is "good" advice for someone on steroids can be completely different than someone training naturally. People on steroids can respond to much higher volume and frequency than the natural lifter. Also, part of being a trainer is motivating your client and being able to understand their struggles and relate to them. I'd imagine a lot of these people on gear didn't have to grind as hard through some of the usual intermediate plateaus that natural lifters with average genetics struggle to get through.

by Leschcaleigh 1 day ago

Those frauds who claim nutty and bring unrealistic standards which can lead to dangerous physical and mental effects on younger and impressionable people, yes absolutely agree with you. Those who are open about it, i don't mind, there are many serious ones that have a lot of knowledge and experience and will not try to force you into peds (unless that's what you're looking for), and albeit i personally don't like that stuff, i will not undermine their knowledge because of their choices

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Sure as long as we can agree heroin addicts shouldnt be in the government.

by reichertsantiag 1 day ago

I worked with a few guys that did them. Don't think they managed their diet that well because it certainly didn't look like they were on them at all

by Frosty-Fan-1433 1 day ago

i wanted to do steroids but apparently you still have to workout!? wtf im tryna take the drug and be a muscle bound freak im better off just going to the gym 🙄 i was very disappointed to learn that steroids dont pump you up off the use. Bootleg ass drug imagine if you had to be super cool and chill already when you smoke weed or you had to already be a loud talking confident stupid clumsy person to get drunk? what a rip off

by Bitter_Tie3371 1 day ago

Personal trainers are hired because they know how to exercise though. Even if they're on steroids, they still have the knowledge that you want.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

While I agree that they should disclose it, you have to remember that steroids is not an immediate effect and it still takes a ton of training and diet to get to the professional level.

by SeriousAdvance7405 1 day ago

I agree with this take but disagree that it's unpopular. Most normies are fed up with fake natties selling snake oil products and workout programs.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

You're right, but it's not like they are selling the fact that they are on PEDs or are otherwise enhanced. They are using a lie to sell something.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Like 95% of fitfluencers are on some kind of PED. That race was lost at least as early as Schwarzenegger.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

You have 0 idea how this world works. You want the people on steroids to guide you as a trainer, they have the most knowledge and discipline out there (most of them). Steroids help you reach some places fast and to get further, but they are no magic button.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I agree. Anyone that needs glasses should not be a teacher, nor should those doctors that have used antibiotics treat patients…

by IllustriousWar 1 day ago

That doesn't make any sense. OP is specifically talking about people deceiving their audiences

by Anonymous 1 day ago

If you let yourself get deceived then that is your problem. Unless these influencers are taking public money or in some official position, there is no reason for government intervention. Why do we constantly have to regulate for people who can't make rational decisions??

by IllustriousWar 1 day ago

What a brain dead take. Blame the victims of scammers rather than the scammers themselves. Absolutely genius. Scammers don't typically take public money, but it's still illegal and the government intervenes.

by Grand-Commercial 1 day ago

Victim blaming Lol Get Over yourself Not everything requires a woke angle

by IllustriousWar 1 day ago

Yeah, blame the teenagers with body image issues, not the grifters lying to them You can't legislate against it so there's no hope for regulation, it just isn't enforceable. Doesn't change the fact that morally they shouldn't be doing it and they are grifters

by Anonymous 1 day ago

You're the one making excuses for people lying to their audiences I didn't say anything about "government coercion". I specifically said the government can't get involved World's most intelligent libertarian

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Who said they are lying. If someone goes on their platform and advocates for steroids—especially knowing the audience may be young—then that is a problem. OP implies that someone who takes steroids, privately, should he prosecuted (and presumably jailed) and lose their platform.

by IllustriousWar 1 day ago

In the case where someone says "this is how I achieved my physique" but deliberately leaves out a key detail like steroid use, that's lying by omission. Anyone using their plan won't achieve anywhere similar results without also implementing that key detail. Op said that, I specified they couldn't do that. Just because the government can't get involved doesn't mean it isn't unethical

by Anonymous 1 day ago