+54 I'd rather children run the risk of seeing something they shouldn't online than give up even a shred of privacy. amirite?

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Yes, but at the same time we need to find a way to deal with the massive amount of propaganda on social media. Unless you want to advocate extremism, of course (but then I think you're part of the problem).

by AngleNo5584 2 days ago

How well is quality and freedom of education guaranteed in the countries that currently seem to suffer most from political propaganda? I am not saying everyone on the internet needs to identify themselves ... I think it is just dangerous to expect that individuals on their own will have the means to fight misinformation and propaganda. Look how Russia tried to influence elections in Central and Eastern Europe (it's even rumored that they had a large influence on the Brexit outcome).

by AngleNo5584 2 days ago

People like my mother will say "I can't possibly be an expert in all things important, that's why I wholeheartedly trust in authority to tell me to do the right thing." Western governance has not exactly been making me want to put any more of my life in their hands lately.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

The problem with demanding identification is that it will incentives companies to sell that information and bad actors to hack the platforms. If there was an impeccable track record of websites and government keeping this data safe I would have a more flexible opinion but data breaches are commonplace. You'll maybe receive a payment from the odd class action for $2.81 as compensation. No thanks.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Seems you are wearing blinders ... I am not saying demanding identification from individuals is a solution for the problem I mention.

by AngleNo5584 2 days ago

If you reread what I wrote; I don't have a ready made solution. But it is something we as a society need to think about.

by AngleNo5584 2 days ago

Honestly, we already have a way. Regulation of platforms can do it.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Yes, but then politicians should have the courage to have regulation enforced.

by AngleNo5584 2 days ago

one man's extremism is another man's milquetoast centrism and vice versa though

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Maybe, but there are basics that (I think) a society should protect, like freedom of press and independent justice. Online propaganda suggesting to put judges under government control undermines exactly that.

by AngleNo5584 2 days ago

even if their independence created a system so corrupt that nobody would describe it as just?

by Anonymous 2 days ago

A mature society is based on checks and balances (e.g. the Trias Politica) which means exactly that wouldn't happen. If hypothetically the body of judges would be seen as corrupt by the other forces, their rulings would not be enforced. Making the judicial system dependent on the ruling government removes part of those checks and balances.

by AngleNo5584 2 days ago

Parents should take responsibility for their kids. None of this is about porn, if it was theyj would have done something about it 30 years ago. It's about what they are going to call porn next.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Based.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

It's not only about children ... the real concern is the use of social media to spread misinformation and propaganda. Something that Russia traditionally is very good at, and (the rest of) Europe finds hard to defend itself against. When you lose democracy and the rule of law, it will be a very long way to get them back.

by AngleNo5584 2 days ago

I don't think that requires people to sacrifice their anonymity online for the most part.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Maybe not indeed, and privacy is important (especially in countries where people do not have freedom of speech). My observation is more that we, as societies, need to find an answer on misinformation and political meddling by foreign countries.

by AngleNo5584 2 days ago