Homeless people should have to follow the same laws as the rest of us, amirite?

I guess if they try to issue you a fine, tell them you're homeless.

by damorelaverna 2 days ago

That sounds like a political problem. Somebody decided that hiding these people in the forest is the best solution to the homeless problem.

by Franco48 2 days ago

"We're going to fine you!" "Okay uh, I've got 5.87 to my name." "...Okay scratch that, you're going to jail!" "Well it's better than this tent in the woods..." "Hrm..." What exactly do you have to take away from people who have nothing? The solution to this is just, yknow /housing them/, but that's apparently communism.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Umm, I never said they should be fined 🤔

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I did acknowledge that the issue is complex

by Anonymous 2 days ago

And then negated that in that last privileged krakatoa of a sentence. Yes.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

What a pathetic, self-centered perspective 🫩

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Exactly. I'm not a theif, but i would totally steal food from walmart before i starved.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Also, as soon as they camp in the city park, the neighbourhood will call police and the mayor's office. It's not like they think that homeless people shouldn't exist, but they prefer them existing someone else, out of sight. Also, no tax increases please and man, don't wee just love to punish petty lawbreaking by making them unhirable and firing them for smoking some weed over the weekend.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Yep, OP is a prime example of ignoring the homeless until they do something OP can not do. "Why are they in the woods doing drugs, my son wants to ride his dirt bike there" is an actual sentence coming through OP's head, and that's sad.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Did u read the part where I said the last major forest fire was caused by one of these encampments or are you only processing information that fits your agenda?

by Anonymous 2 days ago

The most recent forest fire - which undoubtedly cost the province/city hundreds of thousands of dollars - was caused by one of these homeless encampments, I did. But here's the part: yet officials will not publicly acknowledged this. Isn't this because of there was no proof? are you only processing information that fits your agenda? Because you're here pushing another agenda based on a false claim: homeless people somehow don't follow your same laws. Why aren't they included in your same benefits, but they only have to follow the laws? You're a sad, sad person.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

There is a known encampment in that area. Has been for years.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Is your conclusion, if there's a crime blame the closest person? Are the homeless the only people around the area, or why you singling them out

by Marisolleannon 2 days ago

False claim? No proof? These are assumptions you are making about this situation my friend.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

The article didn't even confirm the homeless part. He's a jerk.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Thank you! Read the article, it doesn't even confirm your theory.

by Same-Proposal-2252 2 days ago

So did you, pot and kettle. Ain't you busy trying to put homeless people out of the wood and their existence? Go on with your day pal.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Why are people like you so full of anger and hate?

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Say the one who quoted an article saying "human created a fire, who also was not around" was definitely about homeless. There is hell with no home, for you.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Ok so now I should burn in hell 🤦🏻

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Lol What you gonna do if they don't pay. Give them a roof over their head and 3 square meals a day until they can get a job. Good haha

by Virtual_Story3320 2 days ago

I am not saying they should pay a fine 🤔

by Anonymous 2 days ago

but this is just one of many double standards that I do not think is fair "Fair"? That's an odd choice of word which suggests that you're not so much worried about forest fires as much as you are upset that homeless people are allowed to remain there while your son can't ride his dirtbike

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Also talking about what's "fair" and "double standards" when you're comparing yourself to a homeless person living in the woods is insane to me lol

by Anonymous 2 days ago

My very point indeed!

by Anonymous 2 days ago

He is pointing out the hypocrisy of government. Either being in woods causes forest firests or it doesnt.

by Happy-Sherbert 2 days ago

Yeah because it's a stupid law. Make a 25k fine for creating a fire or smoking. The homeless do not need to be there, and they are the people responsible for starting the fires. Its like banning kids from park because people are using it do drugs.

by Happy-Sherbert 2 days ago

Maybe they don't need to be there, maybe they do. I know I won't be the one telling them where they are and where they're not allowed to be. But considering then only as drug users and a problem to be moved about solves nothing, on the contrary.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

The assumptions and logical leaps and hate/anger by people like you is, well, not surprising actually

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Anger - I'm sorry but you're the one who read anger in my messages (I don't believe there's anything in them that's indicative of it). You're sure you're ok with your conscience?

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I do not follow your logic

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Beyond the fact that it's odd to talk about fairness here, given the absolute lack of privilege homeless people have to deal with, you talked extensively about the forest fires, and how their remaining in the woods is a hazard. Yet your conclusion suggests that the fire hazard is more of an excuse to complain, and that you're really just annoyed they're being given a break and allowed to camp there when you and your family are temporarily prohibited from using the woods for your leisure But maybe I'm reading too much into it

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Not surprising. You think your son riding his dirtbike in the forest is more important than the homeless having a place they can be.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Again, and I'm not sure why I have to keep pointing this out to people like you, but did you read the part where I said the last major forest fire in our area was caused by one of these homeless encampments?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I'm also from Halifax and as far as I know there isn't any evidence to suggest the fire was caused by a homeless person. Authorities have said it was caused by humans but did not point fingers at a specific person. I've personally witnessed definitely not homeless people flick still lit cigarette and cigar butts onto grassy areas over the last week.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

There has been a homeless encampment behind that Kent store for years

by Anonymous 1 day ago

And your proof that a homeless person specifically caused the fire is … where? You have speculation but it is unverified. You could be using this as a teachable moment about empathy and the complexities of public policy for your son. But you've seemingly chosen a different path. I truly hope you never have to deal with the challenges facing unhoused people.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Yes, i did. But that's not the part you really seem to care about.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I'm sorry, but riding a bike is totally different than being able to live somewhere. It's kind of crazy that you can compare the two. Like, where do you you expect them to go?

by Flimsy_Payment_1349 1 day ago

Hmmm. Nova Scotia and Los Angeles have a lot in common I see.

by dock35 1 day ago

Why tf are people banned from going to the forest? And what difference does it make whether they receive 25k fine or not? Do you expect thst they pay it?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

OP lied - the fire was caused by an unknown culprit who was never caught - the homeless narration is from the heartless OP.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

To prevent fires … a bit of an over reach of power if u ask me (most)

by Anonymous 1 day ago

We've had freedom to roam around all forests in the country longer than we've had a written language, and forest fires are rare. Are people just carrying torches around and throwing them into the forests?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I'm from a country that is dealing with insane fire problems. Like 90% of fires here are caused by human intervention. Either purposefully or by leaving trash that makes that difference (something that will reflect just enough sunline to start a fire, a cigarette butt, etc). Closing the public access entries could do something. Don't think it will. It feels like a scare tactic and I hate that, but it could be effective.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Its not just to prevent fire, its to prevent people from turning themselves into human bbq, the forest is on fire, they do not have time or ressources to go rescue dummies trying to win Darwin awards

by No-Fold-6044 1 day ago

The very poor and very rich don't have the same set of laws as the rest of the population.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Good luck geting 25 000 out of person who has 0. Big brain opinion.

by Suitable-Basil 1 day ago

Hmm, I don't think that is what I am suggesting but ok

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Did you read the part where I said the last major forest fire in our area was caused by one of these homeless encampment? Why do you people do this?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Incorrect, actually

by Anonymous 1 day ago

You keep refusing to acknowledge how terrible it is to be homeless because your lil boy can't ride his dirt bike. You keep bringing up how the last fire was caused by a homeless encampment, okay sure. How many fires were started by anything other than homeless encampments?

by viviannedamore 1 day ago

Well, I did acknowledge that it is a complex issue.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

You could just go about your day and be lucky you're not homeless.

by Whitecarol 1 day ago

Why wouldn't you be able to walk in the woods because of a drought? It makes no sense. The laws shouldn't be there in the first place. Homeless people has to follow the same laws they just chose not to follow them. They wouldn't be able to pay the fine anyway. Just be happy that you're not in their situation.

by Inside-Signature 1 day ago

Yeah a bit of an over reach for sure

by Anonymous 1 day ago

How would a person walking cause a fire?

by Inside-Signature 1 day ago

just chose not to follow them. Very weird use of "choose" here

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I live in a non English speaking country and that was the word OP used. I'm sure your Swedish is far better than my English but for everyone else sake I will continue in English even if it isn't perfect.

by Inside-Signature 1 day ago

I'm sure your Swedish is far better than my English I'd wager it's about as good as your German but that's not the point here. OP did not claim the homeless chose anything and it's very much part of the definition of being homeless to explicitely not have a choice about following certain laws.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I think it's wild that someone with so much more privilege and options feels the need to complain about it. It gives off 'why can't I say the n word, because I'm white? They can say it' vibes

by Beautiful-Mix 1 day ago

They're not firing up the BBQ for a privileged weekend of leisure, they're trying to survive.

by Own-Face 1 day ago

🙄🙄🙄🙄

by Amazing-Safety6221 1 day ago

Billionaires should have to follow the same laws as the rest of us and should have proportional fines.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Hate the one that took away your freedoms, not those enjoying their own freedoms.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Man it is crazy what happens when we don't take care of a problem that has not really changed much in a hundred years. Homeless breaking the law isn't a problem, the fact the richest Country in the world has such a homeless problem is though.

by viviannedamore 1 day ago

Well obviously you can't force them to pay. The situation is probably that the city would rather not solve the homeless issue and just let the forest burn.... The solution to that would be rehabilitation and relocation (that would have to be viable and would have to come from the city's pocket). Good luck passing that.... Far easier to just ignore

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Yeah maybe relocation to some motels until we get some rain or something?? Like I said, not sure exactly what should be done, but surely that would be less expensive than dealing with another forest fire.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Good luck getting the city to approve that :) A lot of governments have tried really hard to make homeless people a focal point of disdain. That doesn't go away easy

by Anonymous 1 day ago

This response is fascinating. Are you saying I should die?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

You need to think it this. So you can be finnned 25k. OK. Fair, they could probably impose the same on the person. And then what? They garnish their wages? And no it's not fair, you get to enjoy your comfortable home and they have to live in the woods without a home. That's entirely not fair. Poor you.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I am not saying they should be finned though 🤔 the responses from people like u are fascinating to me

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Maybe they told the homeless they were banned from the homes, hence why they are the home-less. Now that I think of it it should be home-none. Cos it's not like they have less of a home the the homed. They have no home.

by True-Let 1 day ago

This is not unpopular, but you're seeing first hand one of the issues with homelessness in America. Affordable housing has been tried, and a few families succeed in it, but unfortunately most homeless are drug addicts or chronically refuse to work and let the home go to hell. We can't just throw them all in jail either. Of course, you also can't get blood from a stone. If a homeless person is trespassing (or any other minor misdemeanor), there really isn't anything the city can do. They can hit them with the same exact fines as they'd throw at you, but it makes absolutely no difference.

by Important-Step3756 1 day ago

Yes it is a complex issue

by Anonymous 1 day ago

You live in a liberal stronghold and they always end up with two tiered justice where good citizens get punished and criminals get pardoned. The reason for this is because it's difficult to get criminals to obey but easy to get good citizens to obey.

by Powerful-Green-549 1 day ago

It's cute you think that only liberal strongholds have a two tiered justice system.

by viviannedamore 1 day ago

Nova scotia is under a conservative provincial government right now, not liberal, conservative really like to blame liberal for everything including their own doing 🙄

by No-Fold-6044 1 day ago

The government that implemented the current temporary ban is conservative. But nice try.

by Anonymous 1 day ago