No phone rules in schools are stupid, amirite?

spoken like someone who is truly not in the schools

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I hope op doesn't visit schools regularly

by Smart_Emotion6932 2 days ago

Or a high school student.

by Odd_Tap5215 2 days ago

That last line gives off major "As a black woman..." vibes.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

This is how you teach them to have the discipline of going without your phone in inappropriate settings. By making them go without their phone

by Anonymous 2 days ago

No, that teaches you exactly the opposite. To constatly chafe at the absence because it's forced. If you wanted to teach them to go without, then you need to be MORE engaging than the phone (probably impossible). I get some arguments for removing the phones (too distracting, for example), but pretending you teach them to go without is absolute nonsense. You reinforce the idea that the phone is fun and precious and that's why it's rationed - hell you associate going without your phone with lessons which are dominantly unpleasant, so you basically reinforce the idea that "Phone Nice, no phone Bad". It's the same with screentime limits. They can have other benefits but forced removal of something will never teach most to go without it.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Nah I don't think so

by Anonymous 2 days ago

My point is that not only do people have their phones where I work, but they actually require their phones to get their work done. Kids of today will have to figure out how to have their phones on them but still get their jobs done.

by PlusPipe 2 days ago

And the problem with your point is these kids aren't at work, nor do they need their phones for anything school related.

by Due-Connection 2 days ago

They'll have to figure out how to drive too, they can work on that later

by Anonymous 2 days ago

This is the stupidest thing I have read in days.

by Nervous_Sleep4689 2 days ago

This is always my primary argument whenever people bring up that they need to reach their kids at school in an emergency situation. The school's office can get the child out of class with way less disruption than a child's phone going off. If there's a true emergency like an extremely rare school shooting, my understanding is that the authorities DON'T want children calling their parents because parents showing up and trying to get into the building can cause a much larger problem for organizing a response.

by boehmdorcas 2 days ago

Exactly. Sure I might send her texts during the day, but I know those are for her to see during her lunch or her walk home ("don't forget to do laundry", "preheat the oven at this time" etc). Class time is for learning and she doesn't need her phone on her for that.

by Acrobatic-Army-7243 2 days ago

Cell phones are also banned in many workplaces. And they are allowed to own one, but it has no place in school given the problems with bullying, distraction, theft, etc.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Get a pager

by NeatCollection 2 days ago

When I was in highschool, pagers were banned, back in mid-late 90s

by Ypagac 2 days ago

This is why we have ultra stupid adults

by jalon78 2 days ago

What possible emergencies could come up where your child needs their phone on them at all times Recording the teacher doing something innappropriate or wrong, at an age where they have quite the influence on the child and the child is not easily believed. Same with their friends doing something. A function which, one can see, exists in most of society now. Cameras have done wonders for accountability, even though they caused harm in other areas. I can, up to a point, understand the "not in class" argument, because there are a lot of witnesses all focused on the teacher. But anywhere that isn't a strictly small classroom? It's best they have them.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

While I agree with you on that. Is that an urgent thing that needs the child to instantly be able to talk to someone or record it? If they are literally putting a child's life in danger then a phone call to a parent can't do anything. If they are doing a one-off thing that is missed in recording... well that sucks but it isn't happening again so maybe it was the teacher having a bad day. If something happens enough that recording it and accountability is so important then there is enough time to tell teachers or a parent or for those kids to sneak a phone in to record it anyway. Most of the time though the recording is used to make fun of other students or just distracting from learning to send snapchats or a billion other things that just makes a teacher's job harder.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

wouldn't it be better to teach them the disipline and self control not to use their phones during lectures and other times when it would be inappropriate to use them? That's the job of their parents, not their teachers. You have a very rose-tinted view of what a classroom is like. Teachers really do not need another thing to battle to keep children's attention focused on learning.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

wouldn't it be better to teach them the disipline and self control not to use their phones during lectures and other times when it would be inappropriate to use them? Yes it would. But that's a parenting issue not a teacher issue. Considering the number of parents who use electronics to babysit their kids they get them hooked young. The parent has no real motivation to teach them restraint because as long as they are in front of a device they don't have to parent them, and they probably don't have any self control themselves. When the parents refuse to teach their children how to behave then the only option for teachers is to simply take the choice out of the child's hands. It makes absolute sense that this is a rule, because for every kid that would actually put their phone away and pay attention there are 3 more who think they are above school and don't need to pay attention.

by rcummerata 1 day ago

Taking your phone away is teaching you the discipline to not use your phone… that's the point. It forces you to get through the day and focus on your responsibilities without looking at your phone, so that hopefully, once you're in college, you're able to get through a whole class without reflexively looking at your phone.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

It's the parent's job to teach the discipline. If there is a need for the rules, it's the parent's fault.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Children notoriously lack self control because that part of their brain is still developing. No phone rules are a way to teach that self control by saying "no, you can and will go 8 hours without your phone because it's not needed and will distract you." You can reach your child by calling the school. They can reach you by using the office phone. If it's a school shooter type emergency, students having phones just adds to the danger.

by sydneereynolds 1 day ago

You don't realize how many kids are addicted to phones. The more we can keep phones out of their hands, the better off we'll be.

by Effective_Trifle8008 1 day ago

Yeah, but just as many adults are just as addicted, yet they still have to figure out how to have their phones on them (or even required to have their phones) and do their job.

by PlusPipe 1 day ago

We don't have numbers for either, but children's brains are still developing and are more susceptible to addiction.

by Effective_Trifle8008 1 day ago

Finally a real terrible opinion

by Anonymous 1 day ago

There are no phones in school now because they are a distraction, and they are primarily used for cheating at school anyway. I remember everyone cheating constantly when I was I School

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Most adults don't even know how to handle smartphone technology without being completely consumed by it.

by eddboehm 1 day ago

This is either someone that knows nothing about schools or a child that is butt hurt they can't use their phone during class

by Turcottearmand 1 day ago

Would you okay with every student having a TV, telephone, and video game console on their desk at school? Because that's what phones are.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

As a high school student I'm all for banning phones in classrooms WHILE the teacher is actually teaching a lesson, it's just basic respect. But I don't think that they should be banned during independent work periods or lunch breaks. Students should be trusted to regulate their own phone usage at these times, i.e. if they want to listen to music during work periods or just chill out during lunch. You can't coddle someone into staying focused past a certain age. Also, knowing that there will be no consequences for phone usage other than you personally getting behind on your work is helpful for teaching yourself discipline. Teens need to learn to self-regulate, build healthy work habits on their own, etc. and this can't be done if authority is making the ban for them.

by seanbauch 1 day ago

I'm not opposed to the "no phones in school" rule if it is applied equally. If kids can't have them, the teachers shouldn't either.

by Aurelioluettgen 1 day ago

Idk where you're from but no phones in class is normal for the rest of the world.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

The whole point is that children do not have the maturity and impulse control that do most adults regarding phones. Those can be taught with age, but age cannot be taught. The whole point of growing up and figuring it out is that growing up is the part of the equation that makes it possible. And on other issues, why should the teacher take time away from curriculum to parent the child? Discipline and self control comes primarily from the parent. The teacher should be educating the child, not raising them. (I know, I know....)

by Anonymous 1 day ago

As a parent I think the no phones in schools is okay to an extent. The idea behind no phones in schools is that kids will likely be checking their TikTok instead of paying attention in class. I'm an adult and I do this even at work! I'll send my buddies funny IG videos in our group chat, we all do it. Discipline and self control should be taught sure, but the majority of kids in many schools aren't going to have parents that teach this. Exceptions can be made sure, to call a parent when you're in trouble or something similar. Even have classes where the teacher requires phone use in part of the curriculum.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Phones have been shown to be as addicting as narcotics. Regulating their use when students are supposed to be taking in educational input is necessary for retention of the information. I work in a school.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I don't think you need "cloud based messaging apps" to learn to solve for x…

by Anonymous 1 day ago

No. Children have no reason to have a personal gaming system and bullying device in any school setting. If you can't get away from the phones you aren't learning. In the 80s we teens always wanted personal lines in our bedrooms. We got laughed at. We grew up and realized it was a stupid ask.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

allow them call phones. simple. not phones which allows them to scroll through reels or make tiktoks while the teacher is trying to teach something

by Anonymous 1 day ago

School is way different than a job. There's nothing to teach, they know when they should or shouldn't be on their phones they just don't care, because school is unimportant. Most kids would much rather be on their phone than listen to some idiot talk about nothing, so they take their phones to make them pay attention.

by Glittering_Place_504 1 day ago