"From her kings are born" is a terrible phrase to honor women, amirite?

I'm quite surprised that this is an unpopular opinion, first time hearing of this phrase, but it sounds stupid

by niaaltenwerth 2 days ago

You're completely missing the context here. That phrase isn't meant to honor women in general, it's specifically directed at mothers. It's high praise for someone who has raised children into respectable, admirable, even "kingly" people. The compliment is about the mother's skill, wisdom, and impact, it's saying that her guidance has produced greatness, which reflects her own greatness. If you're interpreting it as reducing women to "vessels for men," you're stretching it to apply to people it was never meant to include, just so you can be offended. Properly contextualized, it's celebrating mothers for their accomplishments and influence, not diminishing them.

by Cold-Wedding-1000 2 days ago

Thank you, kind stranger!

by Ok-Country4550 2 days ago

It's like the "why be one scientist when you can give birth to 5?" Firstly the people who say it don't believe in science anyway as I've only heard it from science denying religious people. But also it assumes that a woman will give birth to 5 sons. What if she gives birth to 5 daughters? Does she then have to hope to have 25 scientist grandsons? What kind of pyramid scheme is this? Also, like women with jobs can still have kids. And you could also make the exact argument the other way, except it isn't about logic its about pressuring women to be stay at home mothers. Like, come on guys, why be a scientist when you can be the father to five? I've said it before and I'll say it again. Conservatives, at least some versions of them that are prevalent at the moment, only care about women during their fertile years. They might as well not exist before or after. And that is because they don't see them as full people. Only mothers.

by beerzena 2 days ago

I agree 100%. Motherhood or a woman's fertility shouldn't be the fist thing that comes to mind when it comes to praising women. Its misogynistic at its core.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Motherhood is something to be praised though. Being a mother is hard. Birthing and raising a child is hard. Women who do this successfully and raise good children deserve praise.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I feel like you're overthinking. Especially on the Mother's day (but in general as well) this sounds as just a praise to moms. I'm scrolling past congratulations I can't relate to.

by Bayergiovanna 2 days ago

People who interpret a phrase so that it triggers others then proceed to say it's a triggering phrase are so weird.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Interpreting OP as being "triggered" when they just said they hated the phrase 🥱

by Advanced-Way-3563 2 days ago

I've never heard of this phrase before in my life but I find it weird and creepy. It reduces women and it is gross

by Anonymous 2 days ago

What do you mean? Asking genuinely.

by Ok-Country4550 2 days ago

The phrase is fine, it treasures women especially their motherhood and how great her impact could be for the next generation. But here you are, trying to talk about "vessels for great men". It's dumb, especially when you're also a girl/woman.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

How common are sayings like that for fathers?

by Murazikivory 2 days ago

Why "especially when you're also a girl/woman." ?

by Any_Growth_5768 2 days ago

A lot of men consider being a baby incubator and live-in maid for what they consider a high value male as the height of female achievement and ambition, so it tracks that they wouldn't see why this is reductive

by Anonymous 2 days ago

What type of saying is "From her kings are born"

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Lmao that is the same sentiment with a lot more words!! The way you acted like you learned something.. 🤣

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Women give birth, women give birth, and women become wives. Women can be friends, women give birth. Women are replaceable to men, men desire women. So why call her bad? Women give birth, women give birth, women give birth.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Aww, she really hurt you, bruv 😢. Sending hugs😭

by kelton55 2 days ago

Huh? I am a woman

by Ok-Country4550 2 days ago

Congratulations ☺️

by kelton55 2 days ago