hotels & airbnbs are too controlling, amirite?

Hotels are the way to go, Airbnb has been trash grift ever since covid.

by OtherwiseActive 2 days ago

Okay, but what about cooking? In Japan for example, you can basically rent a room with a small kitchenette, but in most European countries you can at max boil hot water, but that's it. And always eating outside can be pretty expensive.

by Maleficent-Pause-622 2 days ago

Any of the suite style hotels have at minimum a kitchenette. That's all we use now, traveling with a toddler and it's usually at most an extra $10/night.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

In Europe? Because I rarely see them.

by Maleficent-Pause-622 2 days ago

You can rent a cardboard box from me to sleep in and I'll whip you up some good vittles with all the fixins

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Those things were implemented in vacation rental homes decades before Airbnb was a thing. Stripping beds, taking out trash, and starting the dishwasher shouldn't be that big of a deal. What people don't realize is doing those things helps the cleaning people or even owner who does their own cleaning, turn the place around faster for the next guest which is appreciated when you're on the waiting end of being the guest. Nobody bitched until Airbnb when this business and policies have been going on forever. If you feel like you don't want to "touch the matress," maybe stay home because fitted sheets aren't that much of a barrier from whatever ick you have.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I just don't think stripping a bed, taking out your trash, and starting the dishwasher is that big of a deal unless you're being a total slob. Even with a full cleaning staff, it takes the dishwasher time to run, and I'm sure the next guests would like all kitchenware ready and available.It sounds like a lot of people would rather just play "wreck it Ralph" at hotels.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Where are you going to stay if hotel is not a choice?

by farrellpreston 2 days ago

Every one of those "No"s in paragraph 2 are entirely reasonable ... If you want to have a noisy late night party with guests then rent a hall, not someone's house.

by Internal-Smell-3690 2 days ago

I mean i think its pretty fair for the most part. Just because youre paying to stay at a hotel for a few nights, doesnt mean you own that place, so yeah you really shouldnt be allowed to do whatever you want. Hotels need to be maintained to a certain degree of standards, and need to provide a good experience for the next person whos staying after you. Also hotels have a tendency for guests to use them as party sites, having people over and trashing the place. Yeah you personally might not be doing that. But having lot of rules and regulations at least helps to mitigate the chance of that happening. As far as airbnbs though i wont even mention it.... i will honestly never in my life use an air bnb, for so many reasons.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

The no party rule is pretty strict IMO. Like, I understand why they have it, but where do you draw the line? Can I drink a couple of beers with a friend before we hit town? Pretty usual thing to do when on vacation.

by randykeebler 2 days ago

Tbf if I was renting out my house to Airbnb, I wouldn't want pets either. The other rules seem pretty reasonable too. They probably had some bad experiences.

by No-Pepper 2 days ago

Except maybe for the one about not smoking off property.. like wtf? Otherwise I agree.

by randykeebler 2 days ago

Yeah, that one's a bit much. We no longer smoke, but places we've stayed always allowed outside smoking.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Their house, their rules, simple as that. It's not like the rules aren't there on the websites.

by Pale_Examination_118 2 days ago

"NO pets, NO noise at all after 9, NO trash left anywhere at all or you pay a cleaning fee (usually also exorbitant), NO shoes in the house, NO smoking anywhere on the property, even at the curb, NO overnight guests, etc etc etc." To be fair, most of those sound like sensible rules to me. You're not the only guest.

by Background-Bar-547 2 days ago

I've seen places with immediate $200 - $500 cleaning fees if you so much as leave a wrapper on the counter or a dish in the sink. When I'm paying to stay somewhere, I'm also paying for someone else to do the setup and cleanup. Pre-2020, most airbnbs I stayed at understood that and factored it into the price. The past few years, prices have climbed and the landlords have started to act like grudging/militant relatives instead of business owners. Hotels are a little better about it (depending on where you go), but I genuinely feel like I've seen a major attitude/culture shift happen in real time.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

So the only thing you complain about is the high cleaning fees some places charge. And why on earth would you leave dirty dishes in the sink? I would say it's perfectly normal to clean up before you leave.

by Background-Bar-547 2 days ago

Exactly. What's wrong with people? It's not a hotel.

by randykeebler 2 days ago

That's a very entitled attitude. It's not a hotel room, of course you clean it when you're leaving.

by randykeebler 2 days ago

Sure, but you get so much more than a simple hotel room. If I'm staying a week somewhere, I much rather rent a whole apartment with kitchen etc. than a single room without anything. That's the real benefit, compared to hotels.

by randykeebler 2 days ago

There are hotels with these amenities that are cheaper than AirBnB.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Yeah i don't see how any of those rules are bad in any way. Why is it so hard to stay clean... and have basic human decency.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

You're correct but charging over 100.oo for one or two dishes and a forgotten wrapper somewhere is cheap ass and petty.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

You leave it as you found it. Easy as that. Very sloppy to leave dirty dishes ans wrappers.

by randykeebler 2 days ago

Everything you're describing seems reasonable to me. Re: making hotel visitors sign in, I wonder if it's a safety thing so they can account for everyone if there's a fire.

by Nervous-Candidate 2 days ago

Probably to stifle prostitution. OP says the guest was female, so..

by randykeebler 2 days ago

Aha. Then it's pretty strange, I agree. Otherwise I imagine that they're on the lookout for such things.

by randykeebler 2 days ago

I agree. At rental properties, we inform them ahead of time if we're going to have guests for a cookout, and then it's typically just one or two other couples. We have a good relationship with some of the owners we've rented from several times over the years, so they know neighbors won't complain. In some of the cabins we stay in, the main property management has quiet time rules anyway, so I don't blame those entirely on Airbnb and people should watch their noise level anyway after a certain time. Even campgrounds and hotels have quiet hours.

by Anonymous 2 days ago