it's not that horrible when people use speakerphone, and you're not entitled to silence in a public space, amirite?

youre not entitled to silence, but you are entitled to be upset about things if we used your logic, then we shouldn't care about anything that negatively affects us if we cant change it. Might as well live in a bhuddist monastery

by Aschroeder 2 days ago

But how does it negatively affect you tho? It's the same thing as another person conversing, they're just over the phone..

by Sim58 2 days ago

You know how they can converse over the phone? By not doing it over the speaker. It's like having two people considering yelling at each other on the metro as being "normal" conversation.

by Miserable-Advice-251 2 days ago

How is that a comparison? In the first case, they're just conversing on the phone, while one party is on speaker. The second scenario (in person) is two people yelling at each other. They That's not conversing… lol

by Sim58 2 days ago

In the meantime, the person on the other side of the phone is being broadcast to strangers without knowledge nor permission.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

idk about other people but whenever i put someone on speakerphone i always alert them before so they know. if someone doesn't tell them, then it's rude...

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

That's a strange assumption.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

There is a difference between having conversations in public spaces, and loudly blasting music. Loudly using your speaker phone is disruptive dle everyone around you, and incredibly selfish.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

if someone blasts music that is rude...I meant phone calls

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

This has to be my obnoxious Israeli neighbor.

by kilbackbrandyn 2 days ago

don't compare me to Israel, that's and insult on it's own hah

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

I can expect and demand silence in a public space like a bus.

by gwen43 2 days ago

Silence? On a bus? Nah. If I'm on a bus with my friend/family, I'm not just going to sit their in silence next to them. We're going to be chatting. If I get a phone call, I'm going to answer it (not on speakerphone, fyi). We won't be loud, or shouting obnoxiously, but nor am I just going to sit there in awkward silence, that would be bizarre!!!

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Demand? Very strange.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I don't often experience a bus that's silent

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

There are noise bylaws for a reason so yes, I am entitled to not have to listen to the conversation you are having on speakerphone or your music blasting.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

where I live the laws against noise (if I don't count the legal limits for long term noise, noise in workplace, etc - only the laws that you as a random person have to care about) are only for the night, between 22-6

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

Mostly, I just find it ridiculous. It's a phone. You can just hold it to the side of your head, and the speaker and microfone are placed exactly where you need them. They are made to be held like that. There really, really is no need to put it on speaker and then switch it back and forth between your mouth and your ear. So stupid.

by LongjumpingApple1324 2 days ago

if its possible I also prefer doing it normally but sometimes when you're in louder places you can't really hear much if you don't turn on the speaker phone

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

I would say to the person "It's too noisy right now; let me call you back later." I've never been a fan of speakerphone, though. Even in a completely silent office, the sound of it always annoyed me. The only time is when it's a necessity, e.g. a multiperson remote meeting or something like that.

by Mooreeleazar 2 days ago

what did I do to you lmfao

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

no way, I'm not that rude lmao. I meant only for phone calls.

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

Sure but that means you are including random strangers in the conversation so don't be surprised if they speak up to your horrible opinions

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I mean if you and that other person just walked in public together and had the same conversation it would also include strangers...

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

I agree generally, if you're on the phone just use your Airpods or whatever. BUT, devil's advocate, how is a speakerphone conversation any different from overhearing / "forced to listen" to any other conversation happening on the bus? Like I'm sitting there with my mate chatting about our day, how is that any different at all? No one complains about that!

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Generally people don't shout at each other so much on a bus. You always get the odd one or two, and you're right it's no different.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

You do you, but I would personally deem it inconsiderate and suggest that if you're going to broadcast your phone conversations, you can and should expect pushback from those around you. Also, if I call you and you inform me that I am on speakerphone in public, I'm hanging up on you.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

It's super annoying and rude.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

True, we aren't entitled to silence, but at the same time, we should respect others, like going around playing loud music on a speaker isn't a fair thing to do either. If you plan on speaking via the speaker on your phone, then at least do it in a normal volume, don't yell or talk loudly. Also in public transports, don't speak via the speaker, it's pretty quiet in a train or bus, so everyone can hear you if you talk into a speaker on full volume.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

yeah, playing music is rude, I wouldn't do that. yelling is also rude. same like doing it in spaces where there already is silence and can be expected.

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

I don't so much care about the speaker phone part, but the attitude that always comes with it. Typically the speaker phone person is going to be slowly walking along, taking up as much space as they can, with a look on their face of "I dare you to say something to me."

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Yeah I agree with this completely lol & always found it weird that people make it a big deal. If I'm at a gas station or at the store & need to put someone on speaker, I really don't see how it's obnoxious… If someone is a loud person, they'll be loud regardless if they're on the phone or in person conversing with someone else..

by Sim58 2 days ago

yeah, a person who is unnecesarily loud will be like this in any situation...

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

I would love for tech to advance far enough to have realistic simulations of civilization so that we can run a test what would happen if all the public speakerphone people would be Thanos-snapped in a moment. How would the world change? Same for any number of scenarios. Give me IRL What if…?

by National_Variety_524 2 days ago

I would also be curious for this simulation, for many scenarios

by nolanchristophe 2 days ago

Honestly, this is one of those things where it tells me (rightly or wrongly) that the people who are complaining about this have had a very easy life. Given what I was raised around, this wouldn't even register as a concern let alone an issue.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

it also seems like that to me, like why waste energy on such small problems

by nolanchristophe 1 day ago

Being next to people talking normally is totally different than being next to someone talking on a speakerphone. Speakerphones invariably all have this kind of "walkie talkie" sound to it, especially when someone is using it in public -- basically the user has to crank the volume up way loud, and all anyone around hears is this vague kind of hissing sound of background noises. Is it "terrible"? No, agreed. Are we "entitled" to silence in public? Obviously not. But I think a lot of us can agree it's "annoying" to use the nicest word possible. When I'm teaching my kids to use a cell phone I will try to teach them how to use it without being annoying to others. It seems like a lot of folks lately forgot to learn that growing up.

by Mooreeleazar 1 day ago

Speaker phone? C'mon now, I can tolerate maybe someone playing music on a small speaker but shouting with megaphones is just overboard

by Agitated-Yam-8520 1 day ago