Most people in trades have bad work ethic because we pushed everyone with any work ethic into college. amirite?

that also might be true.

by Ok-Property 2 days ago

Problem is that higher price doesn't equal higher quality.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Ive seen way too many people do this. With degrees and without. The only common denominator is they've never worked labor jobs lol.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I didn't know slacking a whole semester and panic learning 2 weeks before the exams is considered good work ethic.

by albinwaelchi 2 days ago

these people dont graduate they mostly are these dropouts

by Ok-Property 2 days ago

This is definitely not the case. Those people absolutely graduate in droves

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I am proof that it's not the case.

by alejandrin46 2 days ago

I forgot to mention *on Adderall.

by albinwaelchi 2 days ago

definitely not. I am proof of that, just be necessity. working full time with a family while doing half/part time schooling and now almost finishing an anesthesia masters. Also pretty much all of my friends that went on to MD/pharm/vet do the same thing in some fashion.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

as somebody who has a masters degree, that is incredibly untrue

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I'm finishing law school and I have a friend who is a master plumber. Even his easy days are more work than I want to do on my worst days.

by ParamedicJust 2 days ago

Go outside

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Hell yea!

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Not enough evidence. It could be the most people don't have a good enough work ethic.

by Fabulous_Pitch 2 days ago

Bingo. Most people like to think they work hard. When in reality they do the minimum amount of work that they feel they have to. Granted there are some outliers in either directions. Where they are people who wouldn't work for anything. Or workaholics. A majority of people are just trying to get by even if they don't realize it.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

As an engineer I can confidently say we don't all have great work ethic. I went into computer science because I was "good with computers", not because of work ethic.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

You had good enough work ethic to graduate with this degree.

by Ok-Property 2 days ago

I'm a software engineer with a masters. My work ethic throughout university was awful I know people in the trades who are real grafters. I know people in tech who are lazy af. I know people in tech who are real grafters and people in the trades who are lazy af It's silly to try to label people the way you're trying to

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Brother Cs get degrees is a phrase for a reason. You can absolutely half ass your way to graduation

by Anonymous 2 days ago

You are absolutely insane and/or have never been to or around a college if you think most college students have a good work ethic.

by More-Economics-2053 2 days ago

Such an ignorant stupid classist take. There are bad employees everywhere and good employees everywhere.

by Suspicious-Call-5269 2 days ago

This is the most accurate take on this!

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I've owned a number of trade based businesses. Are a majority of employees in the trades lazy? Absolutely. Are there are lot of idiots in these fields? You bet. Is that unique to the trades or those type of industries? Absolutely not.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Yes but it is way harder to find trade worker with good work ethic than engineering or computer programmer.

by Ok-Property 2 days ago

i'll add in this. People that go out and get degrees tend to be more willing to move for jobs.

by Big_Flow 2 days ago

I meant in past decade people who got in past during booms were probably with great work ethic

by Ok-Property 2 days ago

yes these 10-20% but vast majority at least in past decade were people with worse work ethic. Probably from now on with this great push into trade work we will see way more people with great work ethic going into trades.

by Ok-Property 2 days ago

The trades aren't perfect but it can be a pretty good route if you A- make sure to pick a well paid route and B- actually take care of yourself. There is a stark difference in my older coworkers who have and haven't taken care of themselves. Some who seem to smoke competitively and rush through everything and don't ask for help look like they're in their upper 60's. I have a few other coworkers who go to the gym everyday before work and just generally take care of themselves; I doubt they would be much better off if they had done a less physically intense job

by Fredgreen 2 days ago

I dont know. Im just stating my observation. Bending under small spaces. Hucking heavy tools, weird angles, equipment. Electric shocks, idk. I dont have a study on it or anything. But from the people i know, it looks.. less than ideal. Its definitely a fit for some, but there are tradeoffs.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Background: i have worked in an oil refinery for almost 13 years. I have worked with many different kinds of trades and can tell you that you are 100% wrong. These people get up everyday and work 12+ hour shifts in hot, confined spaces, inclement weather, brutal heat, and in conditions that many people wouldn't tolerate. Just like with any career, there are some that turn up that have poor work ethic, but they don't last long.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

This is just "if you arent a college grad youre a lesser human" rhetoric and is a pathetic look

by Bogisichtyrell 2 days ago

No i just said tthat due to this push to college everyone who have great work ethic was forced into college even if they dont need so many workers. But thankfully nowadays people are no anymore stigmatized from going into trades and these people with work ethic arent forced into going into college and can go into trades and that will make people who now go into trades high performers.

by Ok-Property 2 days ago

But that's untrue. I have a hard time understanding how working a job that requires you to be in at the crack of dawn, work long demanding days and through many weekends is full of people with bad work ethic. Just being on site as much as they're required needs good work ethic to keep up with

by Bogisichtyrell 2 days ago

If so many of the college students had to be pushed into it, what makes you think they brought an inherent work ethic with them?

by Anonymous 2 days ago

I don't know man, most people in college / higher ed. don't have good work ethic. I don't know where you took that from. It all comes down to personal discipline, irrespective of degrees.

by SweatyLynx 2 days ago

I'm an attorney. There are lazy people in every trade/profession at every level. A college degree doesn't make you a hard worker. You're just making some wild assumptions.

by Marianne74 2 days ago

Thats what im saying people who got in before this push everyone who have a glimpse of good work ethic into college are people with insane great work ethiv people above 40-50years. But people who got into past decade or two are mostly people who werent able to get into college or people who are really passionate about trade work. But there are only so many passionate people.

by Ok-Property 2 days ago

Some people prefer to work with their hands or wanted/needed to start earning money faster. Alternatively they might have not wanted to go into debt so they went into trades instead (it's worked out great for a lot of them).

by brennancruicksh 2 days ago

If true, I consider it a good thing. It would make it much easier to be seen as a good and valuable employee

by Fredgreen 2 days ago

Work ethic is a learned skill. Tradesmen can learn it as well as college students.

by Larsonlinnea 2 days ago

I'm in higher education and can confirm that the students are frequently lazy and do dumb things all of the time. That being said, I'm sure that the folks in trades are the same way. This theory has too many holes in it.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Have you at least done some trade work? It ain't getting done unless you work hard right now. Sounds like some classist nonsense.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

OP, you have that completely backwards

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Na , people always just choose the cheapest tradesman they can find then get upset when the person with a third the average price isnt doing a good job

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Nah the people with bad work ethic are unemployed. 😭

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I don't think you've met many college kids. I work somewhere that hires mainly college kids and I never have more than one coworker who's actually got a work ethic.

by jameljakubowski 1 day ago

Disagree many people go to college cause they're lazy and want an "email job". If you take out the trainees (who are employees for a couple years rather than students) the median electrician makes a similar wage to say an HR generalist or a non-managerial marketing associate or something

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I have yet to meet anyone from a university that has anything that's called a work ethic lol. It's like people who go to university lose all sense of any common sense and tend to be worth nothing. There is a reason the majority all work in fields that have nothing to do with their degree.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Unfortunately all those asshole, drop kick kids in highschool become tradesmen, and their attitudes rarely change.

by CourtPretty 1 day ago

Crazy. I never drop kicked anyone and I'm a tradesperson

by Anonymous 1 day ago

yes thankfully that changes and more smart kids consider trades as good choice

by Ok-Property 1 day ago