+61 "Canon" doesn't really matter when dealing with a fictional universe, amirite?

by Educational-Cost7458 1 day ago

Maybe it's your phrasing but I don't understand how canon doesn't matter but continuity does. Continuity is adherence to canon.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

How does continuity matter but canon doesn't?

by No_Chip8775 1 day ago

you say continuity matters, but say canon doesn't matter. but canon is literally just discussing if things are accurate with their continuity? I think sometimes it's important to know what is real in which timeline like twd games being canon to the comics and not the show

by Anonymous 1 day ago

IMO consistency is big part of what makes fictional worlds believable and immersive. You can't just change the in-world rules or past events from story to story. "Retcon" is used almost always with derogatory tone I think, it's seen as sloppy writing when you have to change something from the past to make the present fit.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

I suppose this is an unpopular opinion so it works. Stories aren't real, but the worlds need some kind of internal consistency or it loses some of what's good about it. Being embedded in a larger story universe has advantages and disadvantages.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

From a personal enjoyment standard I agree. Canon matters from a critical standpoint — we can't really talk meaningfully about what a work is doing without situating it within a coherent universe.

by Purdypetra 1 day ago

It really depends. It doesn't matter in a lot of places that much. Who cares why Mario and friends are now playing tennis or racing go-karts? But when you build a franchise on the concept of hard canon, it's kind of the motivation for all things that happen. It's kind of a big deal that John Wick in canon was the best of the assassins. Also, continuity is canon. It's the sequence of events.

by lockmanreyna 1 day ago

Star Wars is a master piece born from George Lucas mind without him there would be no star wars for disney to ruin. Its like like Frank Herbert Dune Canon matters. The past effects the future.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

It's true that it doesn't really matter. Saying that, it's also fun for those who really like the fictional universe to discuss all the different stories that have been told in that universe, and if certain parts fit in with the established world or not. Some do take it too seriously though.

by HeavyEnvironment 1 day ago

Canon ultimately matters most in discussions that requires an exercise in comprehension, because it's a out what's in the material itself, not what's interpreted, in fanworks, etc. Having that distinction is kinda critical for that comprehension. I don't know if you understand what canon means.

by veumrosemary 1 day ago

Continuity is something following the canon.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Idk, the Legends Universe of SW was so good and it made a lot of sense. They should have done that and then proceed to do some sort of massive "what if" , with this you can proceed to do the whole Canon universe.

by ruben48 1 day ago

This is kinda true! However it does impact the type of stories told in the future so it matters in that respect.

by faybotsford 1 day ago

Not sure if that unpopular. A certain type of person seems to pride themself on not caring about cannon. But when your fiction requires the suspension of disbelief you have to get the nuts and bolts right for the bigger fantasy to be accepted. Continuity is part of that as it's the most basic framework of cause and effect a given fictional universe is running on. Though the waters got muddy because tumbler users all saw that spider-man cartoon and started jerking off about cannon events.

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Canon doesn't matter to me as long as there is no retconning. But retconning does matter to me.

by nolandarius 1 day ago

I guess it only matters where your own cut off canon. Anything after RotJ is non-canon to me.

by jerod88 1 day ago

I mean, that's now how that works though?

by Anonymous 1 day ago

You don't get to decide what is or isn't canon unless you wrote it, that is not how it works at all

by annabelmante 1 day ago

I cut off after the 1st or second rerelease because I cannot stand Darth Vader saying "Noooooo" in Return of the Jedi on Bluray

by Anonymous 1 day ago

It is a tumour. No good comes from focusing on it

by FederalRemove633 1 day ago

THIS. Something "breaking" canon is not a big deal. Most of the time it doesn't even break canon which is the annoying part. Like the force has never had any clear rules. People also forget the rule of cool exists. Take the Holdo Manuever for example. Space battles would be boring if they just consisted of ships ramming each other. Star Wars as a whole functions on the rule of cool. So many ship designs are impractical, but they look cool(cough Slave 1 cough)

by Anonymous 1 day ago

Breaking canon is changing the rules of a universe, how is that not a big deal?

by Millsryley 1 day ago

Because its meaningless to care about cannon to the degree people care about. You get so upset about something you have zero involvement in. You own absolutely zero license to it and are entirely an observer. Caring about cannon to the level where you get upset about something is no different than sports fans crying or throwing tantrums when their team loses. You cant objectively change anything about the situation. You gain absolutely nothing from a win or a loss, so why are you upset? Because it didnt meet you lame expectations?

by Anonymous 1 day ago