Pure Good heroes (a.k.a. "goody two-shoes"), while can be interesting, is still ultimately naive, narrow-minded and too idealistic because they fail to understand the moral complexity of the humanity and the fact that our world isn't for these type of people to begin with, amirite?

+66 Pure Good heroes (a.k.a. "goody two-shoes"), while can be interesting, is still ultimately naive, narrow-minded and too idealistic because they fail to understand the moral complexity of the humanity and the fact that our world isn't for these type of people to begin with, amirite?

by Gullible-Eagle-6282 2 days ago

They are called pure good due to their lack of corrupting qualities and exceptional goodness/heroic acts.

by Gullible-Eagle-6282 2 days ago

You need to read more. Also live more.

by Judsonkunde 2 days ago

You can't deny that Lex and Doom are much more successful than most villains and heroes together. I mean, imagine a guy who grew up from poverty and discrimination and became a benevolent dictator who made a poor and smart easter European country into a legitimate power that can pose a threat to the whole world. Or Lex, who, as you have said, has resources to affect the whole world, and he in fact does it. Without him, Metropolis won't be so famous and prestigious.

by Gullible-Eagle-6282 2 days ago

Yep , I remember arguing with someone over how Sailor Moon was extremely unrealistic, as a character and a 14 - 16 yr girl. Even in the last arc where the world is literally about to end. She refuses to fight a fully corrupted Galaxia because "fighting never solved anything". Like girl... SHE KILLED ALL YOUR FRIENDS. PICK UP THE DAMN SWORD.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

Was this written by a comic book villain?

by HotError4496 2 days ago

I'm genuinely thinking that in our reality, they won't be existing because of many reasons, such as moral complexity of the people You failed to see how they got manipulated in their very world, so it's weird reading your theory about how they would face the same thing in real life. Especially Superman, he's like the pinnacle of "super power but a human heart" in so many issues and most if not all of those issues include somebody manipulate poor Supe into doing horrendous stuffs.

by Automatic_Loquat 2 days ago

Even if we assume that Superman or a person who is basically having Superman's views exist in our real world, I think that it would be very hard or even impossible to hold it for long. Unless the delusion kicks in.

by Gullible-Eagle-6282 2 days ago

The point being, even when they're "not in our real world", they already portrait how weak/fragile human can be emotionally. There's literally no need to bring in the real world element here.

by Automatic_Loquat 2 days ago

Well, it proves that Lex Luthor was right. Superman makes humanity weak.

by Gullible-Eagle-6282 2 days ago

Yeah you understand nothing about the characters you wrote about. Sad talk.

by Automatic_Loquat 2 days ago

"The trouble is that we have a bad habit, encouraged by pedants and sophisticates, of considering happiness as something rather stupid. Only pain is intellectual, only evil interesting. This is the treason of the artist; a refusal to admit the banality of evil and the terrible boredom of pain." A particularly relevant quote from Ursula K. LeGuin.

by DuePoem 2 days ago

Did you miss the entire Arc of Deku having a mental breakdown and being depressed because he had to face reality?

by Anonymous 2 days ago

You miss the point with paragons I feel like. The point isnt to be realistic. The point is to give an example to strive for. Captain America isnt a good hero and paragon because of his infallible moral code. He is a good example of how the average person should be. When he says that he never gives up and then fights on it isnt because he is naive and forgets that evil will always exsist in the world. It is this evil and his defiance of it that makes him strong and good. And also an inspiration for the readers to do good in spite of the evil in the real world. Yes, no one can be so uncorruptibly good as superman. But we can all see him as an example and try to be him a little bit more every day. And that makes not only for a good story but also a nice message to take away from said story. So even if you dont get there, try a little more to be superman and dont give up in the face of evil exactly like he does. There is nothing childish or naive about that. Its just called being a good person.

by SwimmingSir4330 2 days ago

You believe the world is a certain way. The world is however the general population wants it to be. Laws and Rules are changed all the time. Beliefs are not set in stone. The world could be pure and good, it's just the human race hasn't come up with an idea good enough. And you won't find it anywhere in any book, in any teaching, because we have to invent it first.

by Anonymous 2 days ago

At least they are consistent. Best you can expect out of people. Superman is the type of guy who would turn himself over to the authorities and serve jail time if the law demanded it. Even though he didn't want it, even though he could break out at any time. That's the kind of moral fiber I'd like in a leader. The same you believe makes him naive.

by Maudeichmann 2 days ago